Is 'Smoke Everywhere' brand the same as 'Smoke Anywhere' brand???
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Buss, I know you said that jokingly, but let me tell you about our situation. We've been married for 28 years. He's promised to quit more times than I can count, and he's actually tried many times. Every New Year's for a while he'd 'quit'....then about the middle of January he'd start sneaking them. I would purposely NOT catch him so I could enjoy the air in my own home a while longer. By February he was always back at it full force. Once he had a health scare about lung cancer. I guess that hit him the hardest and he gave it a good honest try that time. It lasted about a month. In the meantime, I've grown to hate it soooo much! I see so much money flying out the window on this nasty addiction, and no matter what they think, there's no such thing as a 'polite smoker' to a non-smoker. I hate the mess and I hate the smell on him. You know, when you're young you think love conquers everything....but if I was ever out there in the dating world again, I'd never even go out with a smoker! I wouldn't give myself the opportunity to fall for another one! I guess as he's grown older and more set in his ways and his refusal to even consider quitting...I've grown older and more set in my ways of being honest about how badly I hate it! I caught my 15-year old daughter with a cigarette last week, and it broke my heart. We have a 12-year old coming along behind her, and I confronted my husband with the statistics about children of parents who smoke. Still, he won't even talk about quitting. He just gets mad when I bring it up. He's out of work right now with several severe health issues...all either caused or aggravated by smoking. We're fighting for disability, but have been turned down twice. So while he's out of work and can hardly walk, but smoking practically non-stop, I am to the point that I don't even like to be in the same room with him and the odor in his clothes, hair, hands, breath. We're at an impasse, and I really am hoping this 'gift' will be the solution. I guess I should quit complaining about the cost! To me, a lot is riding on the success of this 'project', and I really appreciate all the advice about how it should be presented. He's got to think it's HIS idea and HIS preference....because clearly none of the health or relationship issues have phased him. I guess this was probably too much information...but I wanted you all to know why this is so important to me. I really do appreciate the help!
I feel for you obxlisa and I agree with most posters that alot of the probability of him biting and giving the ecig is on the presentation. For me it was purely financial in the beginning, minus start up costs vaping is about 1/4 of the price of smoking for me.
I would strongly suggest to take back the mall cig and go with an eGo. I just got mine a couple days ago and I had previously used the 510 Mega, which was very good, got me off analogs without a hitch but, in my opinion, is nothing even close to the eGo.
It looks nothing like a regular cig, however this may be a good thing. It is so comfortable to hold and use and the hit is great. What I'm going to say next will probably get a few reactions but I'm going to be honest. It is, IMHO, more "manly" more like a cigar, I feel a bit butch holding it myself. It's more solid than the 510 by far and far less "fiddling" with batteries. A kit will last all day.
I really feel that if you can get him excited about trying it before he gets it, then I feel he probably will quit because he has tried many times in the past to quit. I myself only quit one time for 3 months in my 18 years of smoking. It was one of the worst experience physically in my life! It is awful to try to quit. I strongly suspect your husband is more addicted to the "habit" or oral fixation rather than the acutal nic because he's quit so many times for stretches of time that would have cleared his system of the addictive chemicals in analogs.
Perhaps if you let him think it is his idea it would make him more inclined to begin. Heck, maybe you have to be sneaky. buy one and let it sit around for a couple days, just say to him "Well, I thought maybe you'd like to try it, but it was a silly idea to get it. This guy told me how good it was, with all these different flavors and things and that it was cheaper than smoking and I believed it. I'm just going to send it back." Perhaps a bit of reverse psychology could be called for.
That is why I suggest going straight to the ego, because in a situation as serious as yours it's best to start with the big guns.
I would strongly suggest to take back the mall cig and go with an eGo. I just got mine a couple days ago and I had previously used the 510 Mega, which was very good, got me off analogs without a hitch but, in my opinion, is nothing even close to the eGo.
It looks nothing like a regular cig, however this may be a good thing. It is so comfortable to hold and use and the hit is great. What I'm going to say next will probably get a few reactions but I'm going to be honest. It is, IMHO, more "manly" more like a cigar, I feel a bit butch holding it myself. It's more solid than the 510 by far and far less "fiddling" with batteries. A kit will last all day.
I really feel that if you can get him excited about trying it before he gets it, then I feel he probably will quit because he has tried many times in the past to quit. I myself only quit one time for 3 months in my 18 years of smoking. It was one of the worst experience physically in my life! It is awful to try to quit. I strongly suspect your husband is more addicted to the "habit" or oral fixation rather than the acutal nic because he's quit so many times for stretches of time that would have cleared his system of the addictive chemicals in analogs.
Perhaps if you let him think it is his idea it would make him more inclined to begin. Heck, maybe you have to be sneaky. buy one and let it sit around for a couple days, just say to him "Well, I thought maybe you'd like to try it, but it was a silly idea to get it. This guy told me how good it was, with all these different flavors and things and that it was cheaper than smoking and I believed it. I'm just going to send it back." Perhaps a bit of reverse psychology could be called for.
That is why I suggest going straight to the ego, because in a situation as serious as yours it's best to start with the big guns.
I agree, order the EGO because of the importance of this. I do not believe that any mini can possibly provide enough power for a heavy long time smoker. It may get him started on it, but heavy smokers need something with a lot of vapor, and a lot of durability.
I would not even present this as a way to quit, don't even bring up the word. It sounds like you have had go-rounds over this. Bring it up as an alternative, as a pleasurable thing, as a supplement to smoking.
Perhaps let him think from your point of view that you want him to give it a try is purely to save money. Purely to stop spending SO much on cigarettes. Then show him different web sites about what is out there.
You don't have to present it as a way to quit, because that right there will put a wall up on his receptivity. For smokers just the thought of trying to quit is like a long extended trip to the dentist to have a root canal on every tooth. It does produce anxiety and smoker's do resist it because we know that "traditional" ways of quitting are like torture. I went cold turkey and it is such a hard addiction to break and you think about it every day, every hour, with traditional quitting methods. Perhaps my experience was different that many, but it was painless to quit analogs, but then I never thought I was going to "quit" and truthfully I still consider myself a smoker; I still have a habit and I can smoke any time I like. However, I love vaping, I enjoying it so much more than smoking.
I think that mindset going in, I can smoke, I have permission to smoke but do I really want to spend the money when I can vape really helps. Truthfully, I would hate to spend $45 on a carton of cigs when I can buy juice from vapor renu or at the sale at vapemasters and have it last me at least a month (if not more) rather than a week (or less).
BTW, the only analog I've had in about 7 weeks was half of my brothers just to see if I still liked and unfortunately, I did (can't stand the smell of cigarette smoke, but liked it---weird). However, I still like vaping more, and I like not having a smokers cough, being able to run and not be out of breath and the money I'm saving.
Even though I suggested you tell him this is not about quitting, I have a feeling, that if you get him "hooked" on good juices and good equipment, you won't have to ask him to quit, he will want to.
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I wouldn't feel too bad about the money you've spent so far Lisa. When e-cigs first started hitting the market a few years back, my gf and I tried a ton of different models similar to the one you bought. We probably spent somewhere around $700+ trying them out. The previous model I was using cost about $130 for a complete kit. The model I currently use, was $105 for just the e-cig and another $50 for rechargeable batteries/chargers. I don't even know how much we've spent on cartridges, accessories and liquid. The upside, I finally have a model I'm happy with and I'm smoke free. I did "cheat" and use Wellbutrin to quit but my previous experience with vaping led me to my current purchase to ensure I never go back. One thing to note, E-cig's are often about trial and error. It's all about finding a product that works for each individual. The initial cost may seem expensive but eventually it will become cheaper.
Here's one for you, if the weather cooperates. During the first nor'easter that blows through this winter, hand it to him and tell him he won't have to step outside in the cold and wet to smoke. 
Yes, when you talk about your husbands smoking addiction and his pig-headed (my words) refusal to quit, or even try to quit, we all know exactly how he feels.
Quitting smoking is the worst thing in the world. The absolute worst. I have been able to quit for up to 6 months at a time and the main reason I always started again was because I just wasn't happy. I would end up asking myself if I'd rather be happy and live 10 fewer years, or be miserable and live 10 years longer.
I've smoked pregnant, I've smoked around my baby, I've smoked on the way to a biopsy.... I'm not at all surprised that he'd smoke despite a lung cancer scare. That's addiction.
The good news is, that that's what the great majority of us have been through. We know exactly what he's going through.
You mustn't, mustn't ever say the words "quit smoking" around him.
To a smoker, those conversations sound like this, "I want to talk to you about ...... smoking. I really think it's time you .... smoking. You should.... smoking. If you don't .... smoking! .... smoking!" By the end of it, we just want a cigarette really bad and feel ashamed (which makes us want to smoke) and feel stressed out (which makes us want to smoke).. it's a vicious cycle.
I wish he knew that we are all legit: the best thing about e-cigarettes is that there's no quitting involved. It's still smoking (more or less), it's even still addiction, it's just not killing us or the people around us....and costs less too.
I hope he tries it out. Even the model that you already have is enough to give him an idea of what it's all about and get him started.
These things are life savers! Good luck to you and to him.
ps: if he refuses try it out, just see if he will at least agree to browse this forum for a while and see what we have to say about it. Maybe coming from real smokers it'll make the difference.
Quitting smoking is the worst thing in the world. The absolute worst. I have been able to quit for up to 6 months at a time and the main reason I always started again was because I just wasn't happy. I would end up asking myself if I'd rather be happy and live 10 fewer years, or be miserable and live 10 years longer.
I've smoked pregnant, I've smoked around my baby, I've smoked on the way to a biopsy.... I'm not at all surprised that he'd smoke despite a lung cancer scare. That's addiction.
The good news is, that that's what the great majority of us have been through. We know exactly what he's going through.
You mustn't, mustn't ever say the words "quit smoking" around him.
To a smoker, those conversations sound like this, "I want to talk to you about ...... smoking. I really think it's time you .... smoking. You should.... smoking. If you don't .... smoking! .... smoking!" By the end of it, we just want a cigarette really bad and feel ashamed (which makes us want to smoke) and feel stressed out (which makes us want to smoke).. it's a vicious cycle.
I wish he knew that we are all legit: the best thing about e-cigarettes is that there's no quitting involved. It's still smoking (more or less), it's even still addiction, it's just not killing us or the people around us....and costs less too.
I hope he tries it out. Even the model that you already have is enough to give him an idea of what it's all about and get him started.
These things are life savers! Good luck to you and to him.
ps: if he refuses try it out, just see if he will at least agree to browse this forum for a while and see what we have to say about it. Maybe coming from real smokers it'll make the difference.
LOL That would do it for me. Up here in NH, it gets cold as hell during the snowy months. I'd quit if I had to smoke outside in the dead of winter.Here's one for you, if the weather cooperates. During the first nor'easter that blows through this winter, hand it to him and tell him he won't have to step outside in the cold and wet to smoke.
Yep, we lived in Hampton Roads, Va for 4 years. Even though those 4 were some of the mildest they had seen in a while, that cold driving rain was enough to make me cut back. We lived in one of those 40s two story red brick affairs and the porch only had to be screened in on two sides since the other two adjoined outside walls. It didn't matter that the storm front was blowing toward the back of the house, I was still really damp and chilled after 3 minutes of hot boxing a cigarette. 
Man, I wish our house was that new. Our place is over 200 years old. Talk about cold chills. lol
Yes, when you talk about your husbands smoking addiction and his pig-headed (my words) refusal to quit, or even try to quit, we all know exactly how he feels.
Quitting smoking is the worst thing in the world. The absolute worst. I have been able to quit for up to 6 months at a time and the main reason I always started again was because I just wasn't happy. I would end up asking myself if I'd rather be happy and live 10 fewer years, or be miserable and live 10 years longer.
I've smoked pregnant, I've smoked around my baby, I've smoked on the way to a biopsy.... I'm not at all surprised that he'd smoke despite a lung cancer scare. That's addiction.
The good news is, that that's what the great majority of us have been through. We know exactly what he's going through.
You mustn't, mustn't ever say the words "quit smoking" around him.
To a smoker, those conversations sound like this, "I want to talk to you about ...... smoking. I really think it's time you .... smoking. You should.... smoking. If you don't .... smoking! .... smoking!" By the end of it, we just want a cigarette really bad and feel ashamed (which makes us want to smoke) and feel stressed out (which makes us want to smoke).. it's a vicious cycle.
I wish he knew that we are all legit: the best thing about e-cigarettes is that there's no quitting involved. It's still smoking (more or less), it's even still addiction, it's just not killing us or the people around us....and costs less too.
I hope he tries it out. Even the model that you already have is enough to give him an idea of what it's all about and get him started.
These things are life savers! Good luck to you and to him.
ps: if he refuses try it out, just see if he will at least agree to browse this forum for a while and see what we have to say about it. Maybe coming from real smokers it'll make the difference.
This. It's an addiction. A selfish, gross, harmful, and did I mention selfish addiction. I think the only smoker I've ever met who wouldn't tell you the same is my FIL. I've quit twice now. Once for year, and then a second time for 3 years (pregnancy, then a second pregnancy and breastfeeding). Each time I went back, and each time I hated myself for it.
I've just started vaping this last week and I went from a pack a day to 1, then 3 today for lack of juice. Once I get a stronger juice for first thing in the morning I think cutting out that first analog will be easier. I hope that through subtle suggestion your husband can have a similar experience. If/when he tries it and starts cutting back I suggest just letting it ride, and not saying anything.
I second the suggestion of presenting it as an inside alternative once it starts getting cold
You know, I've thought that. Then I found myself smoking outside in the dead of winter, lol. With 20 inches of snow to boot. With the kids up I still vape mostly outside. If they are playing in a room while I'm doing something in the kitchen I might take a puff or two but it's rare that I have a second without one or the other under foot. With vaping, and with it getting cold outside I am especially happy to be able to stay INSIDE after they go to bed.
Thanks everybody for your words of encouragement. Maeve, are you just concerned that the kids don't see you smoke? My understanding is that it's safe to vape around others---Is that right? I'm still concerned about my two kids, but they are certainly seeing him chain-smoking right now. If he brings vaping inside, I'm sure that will be non-stop too. Do you think it will look too attractive to the kids? To be honest, I'm afraid it's going to be attractive to me too!
Yea, I used to have to smoke outside at my various relatives houses (except my Aunts, she didn't mind) but once I started vaping no one has minded that I do it inside where it's warm. lol
It's safe to vape around others, which is why I don't mind to vape in the house after the kids are in bed but I'd rather not have it be something my kids watch me do. One of the reasons I was so mad at myself for starting again was I didn't want to be the "do as I say, not as I do" parent. But I can't be perfect so that sort of goes out the window, lol. I'd rather they not grow up to be smokers and if that means not doing it around them, I'm okay with that. They see it happen occasionally but it's not the norm, and I'm trying to keep it that way.
I understand. I can see why it would appear appealing to kids. Quite frankly, I dreamed about vaping myself last night! And I did test one while I was talking to the guy at the kiosk, and I liked it. Hard for me to admit, feeling like I do about my husband's smoking!
They do make non nicotine liquids (0mg) for "pleasure" vaping. Just throwing that out there.
Finally picked up my car and got with my 'Smoke Anywhere' package. I've got two batteries, one charger, and looks like 19 cartridges in all, and a case. Went back to the kiosk about a refund and the answer was a flat 'no'. Wouldn't even discuss it. With the liquid samples I've ordered, I just hope it turns out to be enough to last a month or so. I'm thinking about going ahead and giving him the whole thing now--when the liquids come in. If he goes for it, we may save enough to pay for Christmas! What do you think?
BTW, I asked him about a model number. Asked if it was 510. He said no, but couldn't tell me what it was. Said he thought is was a 900-something. Seems like a question he should have known the answer to. He did show me his 'trade in' drawer that was full of other e-cigs that had broken and people couldn't return. Saw the blue tip one, and the green one, the Smoke Everywhere, and some others I had seen here. He said I should give these a try, and reminded me that if anything doesn't work it's warranteed for life.
BTW, I asked him about a model number. Asked if it was 510. He said no, but couldn't tell me what it was. Said he thought is was a 900-something. Seems like a question he should have known the answer to. He did show me his 'trade in' drawer that was full of other e-cigs that had broken and people couldn't return. Saw the blue tip one, and the green one, the Smoke Everywhere, and some others I had seen here. He said I should give these a try, and reminded me that if anything doesn't work it's warranteed for life.
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Lisa, does the box say NPRO or NCIG? Or what does it say? Then i will know what it is...
EDIT: Nevermind, you originally put smokeanywhere.com, but later edited it smokeanywhereus.com.
Oddly enough, they carry different products...not the same company apparently, very confusing, obviously.
The smokeanywhereus.com only carries one model...
EDIT: Nevermind, you originally put smokeanywhere.com, but later edited it smokeanywhereus.com.
Oddly enough, they carry different products...not the same company apparently, very confusing, obviously.
The smokeanywhereus.com only carries one model...
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Anyhow, the only way to know is to call them and ask. The reason is, as i mentioned before, the pictures they have are wrong.
Both the battery they show and the cartomizer have female ends... Obviously this cannot be correct.
Both the battery they show and the cartomizer have female ends... Obviously this cannot be correct.
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