Is TC pointless?

[pfaber11]

I was watching a video on YouTube and it says Ni200 and Ti can give you cancer as can ceramic coils. I'll personally not be using any of these coils for this reason. kanthal and cotton for me.

 

[kbeam418]

I was watching a video on YouTube and it says Ni200 and Ti can give you cancer as can ceramic coils. I'll personally not be using any of these coils for this reason. kanthal and cotton for me.

I think I know what video you're talking about. I call bull crap, until I hear Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos say that NI and Ti causes cancer I won't believe it. As always vape they way you want not the way somebody else wants.

 

[zoiDman]

I was watching a video on YouTube and it says Ni200 and Ti can give you cancer as can ceramic coils. I'll personally not be using any of these coils for this reason. kanthal and cotton for me.

Well... You know the Rule.

"If you Hear It on a YouTube Video, it has to be True."

 

[motordude]

oops

 

[Zutankhamun]

Okay, don't need to get into that. Probably 'bull' anyway.

But.... (big but) if we found out that vaping made us just as ill as smoking. No more, no less. Would all of you give up vaping completely now.


I guess I would, I love it and I would shed a tear..

But would you all stop and have a yard/garage sale today??

Edit: would you smoke again, give up completely, or just keep going?

 

[smacksy]

But vaping does not make feel ill at all..In fact I feel alot better since I started vaping 6 yrs ago...I mean I'm not short winded or out of breath, I can smell and my food tastes better..and people like me more because I don't stink like a dirty ashtray..lolol

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[Zutankhamun]

But vaping does not make feel ill at all..In fact I feel alot better since I started vaping 6 yrs ago...I mean I'm not short winded or out of breath, I can smell and my food tastes better..and people like me more because I don't stink like a dirty ashtray..lolol

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Oh, definitely. I'm from the UK and we've already had a very large, in depth and no doubt expensive review to find out that public health England and the nhs both back, agree and feel that vaping is 95% safer than smoking cigs.

Edit: besides, I think the nhs actually prescribes ecigs. Yay

The question is just killing time. I don't feel that way but...

Again, would you stop if it was?

 

[kbeam418]

Oh, definitely. I'm from the UK and we've already had a very large, in depth and no doubt expensive review to find out that public health England and the nhs both back, agree and feel that vaping is 95% safer than smoking cigs.

The question is just killing time. I don't feel that way but...

Again, would you stop if it was?

If I felt as bad as when I did when I smoked yea I would just smoke. I love vaping but smoking is 100x easier than vaping is. No re-wicking, rebuilding, changing coils, trying to figure out why a mod isn't working correctly (haven't had the issue) and you can get cancer sticks anywhere. Fortunately vaping has made my body feel so much better so I couldn't care less what the studies say.

 

[smacksy]

Oh, definitely. I'm from the UK and we've already had a very large, in depth and no doubt expensive review to find out that public health England and the nhs both back, agree and feel that vaping is 95% safer than smoking cigs.

The question is just killing time. I don't feel that way but...

Again, would you stop if it was?

But it's not...If vaping was bad for me I would know it by now..my own body would tell me if was..
Only tightening regs threaten me vaping and if it gets completely banned I would be forced to quit, however I will not go back to smoking those nasty cancer sticks...

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[Zutankhamun]

But it's not...If vaping was bad for me I would know it by now..my own body would tell me if was..
Only tightening regs threaten me vaping and if it gets completely banned I would be forced to quit, however I will not go back to smoking those nasty cancer sticks...

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Cool, I'll take that as a; if it was, then yes, I'd give up altogether.

 

[KenD]

I've never tried TC. Although most of my regulated devices support it. I read an article explaining that TC is a good technology, but that it hasn't evolved enough yet to be worth using at this point. I read that article a few months ago, and vapor tech seams to be improving as fast as computer tech these days, so that article may be moot at this point.

It was probably moot by the time it was written.

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[KenD]

Don't like Nichrome? Why? If you don't mind me asking, lol
Btw, I run Nichrome in wattage mode, I don't use TC at all..just sayin
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Nichrome isn't a tc wire.

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[KenD]

I was watching a video on YouTube and it says Ni200 and Ti can give you cancer as can ceramic coils. I'll personally not be using any of these coils for this reason. kanthal and cotton for me.

Don't believe everything people say. It's not difficult to find youtube videos claiming that vaping is more dangerous than smoking. Do you believe that as well?

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[smacksy]

Nichrome isn't a tc wire.

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Thanks Ken, but I knew that already...I don't like or use TC at all...run my Nichrome builds in wattage mode only...thx for your post

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[OhTheAgony]

Here's how it was extra work for me...ymmv:

First of all, I like to keep a fresh vape and so I dry-burn and re-wick every day or two. With Ti (my preferred TC wire) they say you shouldn't dry burn it due to safety concerns, so I would replace the entire coil every time I noticed a flavor degradation. Ti did seem to last longer, but only by a day or two. So, every 3-4 days I was rolling new coils. Compare that with my kanthal coils that I keep for 2-4 weeks (even kept one for 3 months once).

My other issue was that I seemed to constantly need to re-tweak my settings every time I popped in a new coil (even though it was the exact same build as my previous). Same when changing Attys. Sometimes it would take a while to dial in a perfect vape. For me, Kanthal is plug 'n play. I know they have since added TCR values that may help with this (I think), but that has 'extra work' written all over it, correct me if I'm wrong.

I admit I had fun tinkering around with it (or I wouldn't have put up with the crappy part for 3 months), and it would be hypocritical of me to say others shouldn't try it. I was vaping TC at 0.2Ohm/80-100W and getting a great vape. At some point though I just asked myself if I was truly getting a more satisfying vape compared to my previous 0.7Ohms/28-30W setup, and the answer was no. I'm an ex-smoker and I vape for throat hit, flavor, and of course, nicotine. So I went back to my simpler Kanthal set-up. I could see if you wanted to blow clouds for the sake of blowing clouds and you need to push your rig, then TC could be useful.

Thanks for sharing!

Ti1 is my wire of choice as well, I've tried SS316 a few times but found the taste too metallic personally. I don't dry burn neither for the reasons you mention, but every time i need to re-wick (about once every 2 weeks or so when I was still at 3ml per day, I'm vaping 6 times less these days) I leave the coil installed in the base of the RTA but rinse it under the hot sink while rubbing it with a toothbrush. I realize I vape much less then most on here but a coil lasted me 2 to 3 months that way @3ml per day.

As for inconsistent experiences, that can only be either your build, a RTA or RDA with a less than solid connection, or your mod.

I'm pretty much a Kayfun V5 (SJMY clone)-DNA200-only guy these days (so no cloud chaser at all, I usually stay below 420F and have never exceeded 40W with pre-mentioned builds) and my coils often come out at 0,40 ohm exactly for twisted wire (28g) coils or 0,30 ohm for single wire coils (26g).
This level of consistency keeps surprising me but it is nice to have. & if I can do it anyone can imo, I'm not doing anything special as far as I can tell anyways.

It did take some time to find a build that worked for me of course, but I assume that's the same for everyone no matter what wire and mode you choose.

 

[KenD]

I'm wondering what exactly people find to be so hard with tc, and what extra work they're referring to. It's really not more complicated than vw vaping.

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[Zutankhamun]

I'm wondering what exactly people find to be so hard with tc, and what extra work they're referring to. It's really not more complicated than vw vaping.

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I use mechs now but when I was using those boxes I'v got not everyone is compatible with every wire. You can't just freely change attys and devices if you want.
Some devices aren't reading res accurately enough so again.
Swap.
You use kanthal, everything is pretty much the same everywhere, all the time. You might gain or lose an unnoticeable bit of res but oh well.

As well, I don't know what kind of guy doesn't realise when the flavour seems to be going away and would wait for the inevitable dry hit. just put more juice in/on.
I've never had one dry hit. never will.

 

[smacksy]

I'm a cloud chaser, not a flavor chaser..I get thicker, bigger clouds with wattage mode than I do pulsing a coil with TC..Don't need TC to avoid a dry hit dripping as I use mechs mostly with RDAs for a long time..I know when it's time to re-drip ...
Don't use TC with any of my subtanks either..one look and I know when it's time to refill..
I vape for the nicotine hit..If I want more flavor I'll eat a Jolly Rancher..lol

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[zoiDman]

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I vape for the nicotine hit..If I want more flavor I'll eat a Jolly Rancher..lol

 

[MMW]

I'm wondering what exactly people find to be so hard with tc, and what extra work they're referring to. It's really not more complicated than vw vaping.

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I think largely on here folks associate dna/tc/escribe/software/firmware updates.
Not that DNA is the only game in town, but that's what rules the tc subforum.

Just an observation.