Is the syringe wasteful?

[EdensDaddy]

I started using a syringe to fill carts and feel like I am wasting a lot more juice than the typical paperclip or drops before inserting the filler techniques. Perhaps I am not using the right gauge needles. I got them from my mother who works as an RN and can provide them free of charge. I felt it would be a good way to measure my consumption but I have 23 ga needles and the juice seems way too thick. There is also the amount of e liquid that is in the neck of the needle the plunger never pushes out. Am I doing this wrong?

 

[framitz]

I think a needle is the best way to fill completely. I suspect 23 ga is too small, I'm not sure how big my needle is, but I think it's bigger, maybe 18 or 20 ga. I blunt the sharpness with 1000 grit sandpaper for safety.

Looking at it, seems I might lose a drop or two at most.

 

[EdensDaddy]

I do like how it goes straight to the bottom and I can see the fill up to the top... Before I got them I dropped the liquid on top and it seemed to fill quickly. until I pressed and ovaled the carts. Seems like it's great for blank carts.

 

[Moonflame]

I use the syringe if I am filling a bunch at once, but use a pin to move the stuffing around or drip down if I'm just filling one. Part of that may be laziness since I keep the syringe put way away and don't want to have to go get it to fill one cart .

 

[Praiodan]

I used to do the paperclip / tweezer method to remove the cart and wool then drip in the juice. I found it to be too much hassle and over-filling the carts became a reality..not to mention it's messy.

I've been using a syringe for the past few months to fill from the bottem up. I don't even take the cart out of the holder anymore. So much easier on cleanup and I've gotten pretty quick with it

 

[catlvr]

I guess I"ll have to try the syringe now. I've just been using the straw mod and a needle to work it in. But this sounds like a good tryout.

 

[DC2]

The thing about the syringe is that you probably do leave a little bit of juice in the tip.
I do a couple of extra squeezes on the syringe to get it back in the bottle again.

And yeah, the more cartridges you fill at once, the less of a concern it really should be.
But if it is really a concern, you could just use the needle tip bottles.

Precision Oiler - Needle Tip Oiler Bottle 1/2 oz.

 

[DC2]

I guess I"ll have to try the syringe now. I've just been using the straw mod and a needle to work it in. But this sounds like a good tryout.

Although I use a syringe when I use cartridges (mostly drip now) I am still seriously considering the straw modification, and so day I may try it again.

It isn't so much for the filling, but for the supposedly improved wicking.
Improved wicking is something I always crave when using a cartridge.

 

[Kent C]

I started using a syringe to fill carts and feel like I am wasting a lot more juice than the typical paperclip or drops before inserting the filler techniques.

I don't understand how you could be 'wasting' more juice. Where do you think it's going?

 

[chad]

I use a B&D 20 gauge 1" needle with a 3mL syringe. They're cheap by the 100 here.

I use a Dremel tool to cut off the sharp end. I stick the sharp end in a cork and cut it off using a cutoff disk so the metal doesn't fly off and lodge in my body. Then I sand the tip with a sanding disk until it's smooth.

You're right about it leaving a little juice in the neck. At first I thought the same thing but then I gave up on worrying about it. If you think of a way to mitigate the loss, let me know!

 

[solitary1]

When you fill your syringe,start with the plunger up a bit,this will make an airspace between the plunger and the liquid.When you empty the syringe back into the bottle the air space will push the remaining fluid from the needle.This is not 100% waste free but it helps.

 

[chad]

When you fill your syringe,start with the plunger up a bit

Great tip!

 

[Mingolvr]

Anyone know if the tip on this large enough for the juice to go through?


"But if it is really a concern, you could just use the needle tip bottles."

 

[DC2]

Anyone know if the tip on this large enough for the juice to go through?

Yes, a number of people use them.

The drops ARE quite a bit smaller than a dropper bottle.
Probably about the same size, or even smaller than a syringe too.

But it works good.

 

[zero7starz]

Yes a 23 gauge is too small. The only way I really know this is from gauging my ears LOL. I'd suggest anything from 20 to 18, that should be large enough to put glycerin through but small enough not to be difficult.

Anyone know where I can buy maybe 2 syringes cheep? I don't feel like tyring to explain myself at the pharmacy...

 

[Robert]

Although I use a syringe when I use cartridges (mostly drip now) I am still seriously considering the straw modification, and so day I may try it again.

It isn't so much for the filling, but for the supposedly improved wicking.
Improved wicking is something I always crave when using a cartridge.

Try the pyramid lypton tea bag method- this has solved my last few minor problems with my 510- really like this new cart filler- zero strands ever get to the atty. Great flavor!!

 

[Elendil]

Yes a 23 gauge is too small. The only way I really know this is from gauging my ears LOL. I'd suggest anything from 20 to 18, that should be large enough to put glycerin through but small enough not to be difficult.

Anyone know where I can buy maybe 2 syringes cheep? I don't feel like tyring to explain myself at the pharmacy...

Johnson Creek sells them

 

[DC2]

Try the pyramid lypton tea bag method- this has solved my last few minor problems with my 510- really like this new cart filler- zero strands ever get to the atty. Great flavor!!

Sigh.

That is on my list of things to try as well.
Along with another attempt at the straw modification.

I am actually having some pretty darn good luck with the windmill method now though.
At least, that is, when I'm actually using a cartridge.

In fact I went all day using the windmill method today, and I am afraid it worked better than dripping.
I had to top off less than I would have had to drip.

Sigh.

 

[madman3237]

Sigh.

That is on my list of things to try as well.
Along with another attempt at the straw modification.

I am actually having some pretty darn good luck with the windmill method now though.
At least, that is, when I'm actually using a cartridge.

In fact I went all day using the windmill method today, and I am afraid it worked better than dripping.
I had to top off less than I would have had to drip.

Sigh.

What is the windmill method???

 

[DC2]

What is the windmill method???

It is a name I just made up for doing what is talked about in this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/27169-packing-e-cig-i-swear-works.html

And yes, it absolutely works.

But you have to be very careful, because it can work too well.
And then you have liquid coming out of the holes between atomizer and battery.

And it is NOT recommended for an automatic battery, only a manual.