Is there a conspiracy behind Chantix and Wellbutrin?

[Bernard Marx]

This really is nerve-wracking. I don't think there is a conspiracy as such. I certainly do believe that physicians in general and psychiatrists particularly do not know what the hell they are doing when it come to the treatment of many mental illnesses. Even their most advanced Functional MRI's have been described as similar to viewing synaptic activity about as clearly as if they were looking through the bottom of a dirty glass from the end-zone and trying to read a book at center-field. Based on the information they glean this way they make outrageous, misleading and hugely self-serving forays into your very fragile physical equilibrium with absolutely no exit strategy. If you take Chantix for any reason (particularly for something as insignificant as smoking too much) you are really asking for trouble.

 

[Katmar]

This really is nerve-wracking. I don't think there is a conspiracy as such. I certainly do believe that physicians in general and psychiatrists particularly do not know what the hell they are doing when it come to the treatment of many mental illnesses. Even their most advanced Functional MRI's have been described as similar to viewing synaptic activity about as clearly as if they were looking through the bottom of a dirty glass from the end-zone and trying to read a book at center-field. Based on the information they glean this way they make outrageous, misleading and hugely self-serving forays into your very fragile physical equilibrium with absolutely no exit strategy. If you take Chantix for any reason (particularly for something as insignificant as smoking too much) you are really asking for trouble.

Totally agree. And I absolutely CRINGE when I see the ads for this horrible drug.

 

[IndigoChild]

I wonder if it's actually worked well for anyone without any side-effects or adverse reactions… There's those people on their commercials but who knows who they are, if they're real patients, and if they're telling the truth or are getting paid off to act in those pharmaceutical ads. I swear I saw this one lady in a Chantix commercial in another commercial for Botox's new ads for their new FDA approval as a drug used for the treatment of certain pain disorders…

 

[Katmar]

I wonder if it's actually worked well for anyone without any side-effects or adverse reactions… There's those people on their commercials but who knows who they are, if they're real patients, and if they're telling the truth or are getting paid off to act in those pharmaceutical ads. I swear I saw this one lady in a Chantix commercial in another commercial for Botox's new ads for their new FDA approval as a drug used for the treatment of certain pain disorders…

They are probably paid actors, is my guess. I can't picture many real people touting the greatness of this awful drug. But, who knows?

 

[Susan2014]

Chantix was awful for me. I had such bad vivid dream I would wake up screaming and running out of my bedroom. I tried it twice but never again will I use it. Smoking was nicer then the dreams. Now am vaping and not running out of room. Ok maybe running to get me a refill in my tank.
Susan

 

[stevegmu]

All prescription drugs work for enough people who take them for pharmaceutical companies to spend $500 million to $1 billion to design, test, market and release new medications. We live in a society which wants pills to cure everything and they are simply filling a 'need....'

2 years ago when I went on my healthy living crusade, I went to my doctor with my numbers and was borderline to high for everything- weight, cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure... He gave me the option of following a strict diet and workout regimen or medications. I don't believe in taking medication unless absolutely necessary, so chose the first option. It worked. Most people would choose pills...

 

[Midniteoyl]

Something just dawned on me! First let me give a little history… I have VERY severe depression and have been on hundreds of different medications, gone through lots of hospitalizations and even electro-convulsive therapy. I have asked my primary physician and several different psychiatrists about Chantix and Wellbutrin on many occasions. None would prescribe it to me. The Wellbutrin I was able to try and it didn't do much other than agitate me and set off strange side-effects and weird cross reactions with my other medications.

With Chantix, my doctors have specifically said they won't prescribe it because it causes emotional instability, bizarre behavior, suicidal and homicidal ideation, and that the stress and side-effects that it causes tend to make smokers more likely to keep smoking because they feel they need a cigarette to deal with all the unpleasant effects from the drug.

Rarely has a doctor ever refused to try a medication with me as I have high tolerances and they are usually always wanting to experiment to see if they can find something that will work better than what I'm on at the time. I am also generally very stable and able to identify if something is going wrong and know to discontinue it right away and call in.

So I was thinking, could it be possible that there's a conspiracy around Chantix to cause people who want to quit to be even less able to quit because they can't handle the effects of the drug? Also, I've noticed that almost no medical insurance companies will pay for it, it's extremely expensive and supposedly you have to sign a liability form to get it regarding the sudden strange suicidal tendencies it's incited in some people. Something seems off about all this to me...

No.. They both do what you found and what your doctor said.. If anything, theres a conspiracy to KEEP them on the market even though they have proven to be terrible drugs.