Is there a RTA where the cotton is getting saturated from top?

[TheEarthkin]

So I was thinking about the main disadvantages of my Blitzen RTA compared to the Troll v2 RDA, which I was using the last couple of months (and really got used to).

So the main thing that is annoying imho, is that you have to wait some time for your juice to flow to your cotton and coil if you vape much - otherwise you will get dry hits (at least for me).

After thinking about physics a bit I thought of a RTA where the cotton goes from your coils straight to the sides or even a bit upwards, where it will be saturated later from juice in the tank. Because of gravity your cotton will get the juice much easier, i would guess.

(I will provide a self created image later on for those of you who can't imagine.)

Is there a tank on the market that does this thing and if so, how is it called?

Thanks in advance!
~ Earthkin / Benni

 

[classwife]

Moved to New Members from Ask the Veterans

 

[untar]

Of course those exist. The newest member of that family is the "Fanciest RTA" (which some people seem to enjoy a lot). There's also the famous (maybe not in the US) "Flash-e-Vapor" line of higher end RTAs that gravity feed juice onto the cotton through mesh straws, kind of a reverse Genny (mesh doesn't have to be toasted, just rolled though). They cost a bit more but as always there'll be some clones.

 

[Zaryk]

So I was thinking about the main disadvantages of my Blitzen RTA compared to the Troll v2 RDA, which I was using the last couple of months (and really got used to).

So the main thing that is annoying imho, is that you have to wait some time for your juice to flow to your cotton and coil if you vape much - otherwise you will get dry hits (at least for me).

After thinking about physics a bit I thought of a RTA where the cotton goes from your coils straight to the sides or even a bit upwards, where it will be saturated later from juice in the tank. Because of gravity your cotton will get the juice much easier, i would guess.

(I will provide a self created image later on for those of you who can't imagine.)

Is there a tank on the market that does this thing and if so, how is it called?

Thanks in advance!
~ Earthkin / Benni

Not that I am aware of. I would assume that is because the coil would have to be flat with the bottom of the tank or you would have juice in the bottom that you cannot wick out, and that would push the coil fairly far away from the mouth, which is notorious for muting flavor.

Edit- untar cleared that one up, my assumptions are clearly incorrect...

 

[Zaryk]

Of course those exist. The newest member of that family is the "Fanciest RTA" (which some people seem to enjoy a lot). There's also the famous (maybe not in the US) "Flash-e-Vapor" line of higher end RTAs that gravity feed juice onto the cotton through mesh straws, kind of a reverse Genny (mesh doesn't have to be toasted, just rolled though). They cost a bit more but as always there'll be some clones.

Those are some interesting designs. The deck being that low doesn't negatively effect flavor?

 

[untar]

Can't say about the fancier but the Flash-e-Vapors have quite good flavor and, for those who crave it, a big thump in the back of the throat.

 

[Zaryk]

Can't say about the fancier but the Flash-e-Vapors have quite good flavor and, for those who crave it, a big thump in the back of the throat.

Interesting. Thanks for the response. Now I'm intrigued as to the correlation between coil height vs flavor production. Looks like I just got some new topics to research and learn about. I'm going to suspect it has something to do with the diameter of the chimney coming from the deck as to how flavorful the vapor is going to be.

Time to hit google...

 

[TheEarthkin]

Of course those exist. The newest member of that family is the "Fanciest RTA" (which some people seem to enjoy a lot). There's also the famous (maybe not in the US) "Flash-e-Vapor" line of higher end RTAs that gravity feed juice onto the cotton through mesh straws, kind of a reverse Genny (mesh doesn't have to be toasted, just rolled though). They cost a bit more but as always there'll be some clones.

Thanks a lot to both if you! I will do some research to both of those RTAs.

If there is someone out there who has already tried/used one of those RTAs it would be interesting to hear their opinion on it and whether it is worth giving a try or not.

 

[Izan]

So I was thinking about the main disadvantages of my Blitzen RTA compared to the Troll v2 RDA, which I was using the last couple of months (and really got used to).

So the main thing that is annoying imho, is that you have to wait some time for your juice to flow to your cotton and coil if you vape much - otherwise you will get dry hits (at least for me).

After thinking about physics a bit I thought of a RTA where the cotton goes from your coils straight to the sides or even a bit upwards, where it will be saturated later from juice in the tank. Because of gravity your cotton will get the juice much easier, i would guess.

(I will provide a self created image later on for those of you who can't imagine.)

Is there a tank on the market that does this thing and if so, how is it called?

Thanks in advance!
~ Earthkin / Benni

Hi and welcome,
Switch to Rayon from cotton and comb/thin your tails.
If you are using a high mass coil, continue to draw for a second or so after releasing the button to maintain wicking and help to cool the coil.

If you enjoy the advantages of the RDA, consider a bottom feeder device.
Many RDA's now come with an additional, hollow, center pin to use for Squonking.

Welcome to ECF
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[untar]

I will do some research to both of those RTAs.

Btw the name of the first one I mentioned is not "Fanciest" but "Fancier RTA" from uwell, slight misremembering from my side...

 

[stols001]

The only way you are going to be able to drip from underneath is by using a squonker, dude.

Also I'm a bit confused but like, comparing RDA to RTA is a bit apples to oranges, and the concept remains a bit unclear. DIFFERENT varieties of RTA exist, and they all involve different placements of the deck sometimes ALSO requiring a Juice Flow control and etc.

And squonking isn't TECHNICALLY dripping as you have to "squeeze" it to combat oh this force called gravity. Etc.

I'm probably wrong on this, but I'm Prepared to be wrong on many an occasion.

Anna

 

[TheEarthkin]

Hi and welcome,
Switch to Rayon from cotton and comb/thin your tails.
If you are using a high mass coil, continue to draw for a second or so after releasing the button to maintain wicking and help to cool the coil.

If you enjoy the advantages of the RDA, consider a bottom feeder device.
Many RDA's now come with an additional, hollow, center pin to use for Squonking.

Welcome to ECF
I

Thanks for your suggestion!
Sadly I do not own a Squonk-able Base and would need to grab such in order to get the advantages of squonking.

I would rather stick to my RX200s atm.

 

[CaveFurby]

Untar, I had seen photos of the Flash-e-vapor some time ago, but recently got very interested in it (I love German atomizers using mesh wick or stainless steel cable). I placed an order for the YFTK Flash-e-vapor 4.5 clone last week, excited to start using it when it arrives. I think no, its not well known in the States, it would be thought too tall or too industrial looking. I think it's really interesting and the wicking concept is really cool. I've watched many videos on it, no I don't understand the German but I can get the idea of it anyway. So I will use the mesh tube to wick and hope for the best!

 

[Letitia]

I'm not sure but I think it is @DeloresRose that has a couple Fanciers. Someone on the shiny thread is using them anyway.

 

[DeloresRose]

So I was thinking about the main disadvantages of my Blitzen RTA compared to the Troll v2 RDA, which I was using the last couple of months (and really got used to).

So the main thing that is annoying imho, is that you have to wait some time for your juice to flow to your cotton and coil if you vape much - otherwise you will get dry hits (at least for me).

After thinking about physics a bit I thought of a RTA where the cotton goes from your coils straight to the sides or even a bit upwards, where it will be saturated later from juice in the tank. Because of gravity your cotton will get the juice much easier, i would guess.

(I will provide a self created image later on for those of you who can't imagine.)

Is there a tank on the market that does this thing and if so, how is it called?

Thanks in advance!
~ Earthkin / Benni

Uwell Fanciers have the wick going up. I have 4 of them, I like them that much. Can also be used as Rdas.

Uwell Fancier RTA & RDA Tank | Vape Rebuildables




I know some people think they’re weird and ugly, I think they’re gorgeous and perform very nicely. Trick is to really stuff the wick with cotton, and fill the juice channel well, but not pack it too tightly.

 

[DeloresRose]

Those are some interesting designs. The deck being that low doesn't negatively effect flavor?

Can’t speak about the others, but nothing in my rotation gets the flavor of Fanciers. Well, maybe my VV Pulse 24 rda does but that’s it. And as a rda, Fancier is almost too much flavor.

My only issue with Fanciers is that I do get some leaking, but mostly my fault. I’m not a seasoned builder by any means, and I need loads more practice before I’m bring these out of the house lol. The Zeus, Blitzen, and VV revolver have not leaked at all for me.

 

[Coyote628]

I tried standing on my head and vaping with my bravo rta. Figured this would in effect "top feed" the wicks. Wicks got dry, i took a dry hit, coughed and sneezed, upside down, saw spots before i lost consciousness and fell over the couch. I didnt really do this but it makes a good story, huh? Lol

 

[Letitia]

Uwell Fanciers have the wick going up. I have 4 of them, I like them that much. Can also be used as Rdas.

Uwell Fancier RTA & RDA Tank | Vape Rebuildables




I know some people think they’re weird and ugly, I think they’re gorgeous and perform very nicely. Trick is to really stuff the wick with cotton, and fill the juice channel well, but not pack it too tightly.

lol I have a hard time keeping track of who has what on the shiny thread. Have them same problem on the random mixing thread. Rather amazed at getting this one right.

 

[DaveP]

Dry wicks are usually from undersize coil/wick builds or wattage too high for the wick to maintain juice feed. Dual coil atomizers will help. Two wicks, two coils help feed the high wattage need.

It's all about wicking and atomizer design that can keep up with juice flow to the coil. Capillary action is what makes juice flow through a wick. Wick diameter allows higher juice flow rates.

 

[BrotherBob]

So the main thing that is annoying imho, is that you have to wait some time for your juice to flow to your cotton and coil if you vape much

Welcome and glad you joined.
Cotton is a fine wicking material. Might want to consider CelluCotton/Rayon. For more information:
Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2