Is there a Variable Wattage ProVari in the works????!!!

[p.opus]

I am a current iTaste vv3 owner and love the variable wattage functionality to compensate for the coil resistance differences in my Kangers (I know...I Know....build your own coils......I get it.....)

I am saving up my money for a ProVari. The big selling point for me was seeing Pbusardo fire up a Provari at 4.0 volts not 15 seconds before the battery died.

Nearly Zero voltage lag...That is a biggie for me.

But as I am saving, I would like to know if a variable wattage model is on the horizon. Has ProVape addressed variable wattage devices? Are they "in the works" or have they simply stated "no current plans".

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

[AlB53]

I don't think so..but I'm vaping mine at 12 wats right now...

 

[Baditude]

The question has been posed to Provape multiple times in the past. The standard line is that they have looked into the possibility of using variable wattage, but no plans have been made for upcoming models or updates.

If having variable wattage is a gamechanger for you, a Provari is not likely a good choice for you. It's basically a different way to get to the same place. People who choose a Provari are more interested in other characteristics in a mod than what variable wattage brings to the table.

Dependability, consistancy, reliability, repairability, durability. Build quality and top of the line components. Attention to detail. Top of the line customer service. One year warranty. Ability to have a Provari repaired for life for very reasonable parts/service fees and returned good as new within a weeks time. It's a basic mod that does what it does better than any other VV mod made.

 

[p.opus]

I don't think so..but I'm vaping mine at 12 wats right now...

I know that variable voltage means you can adjust the watts to the coil, once you swap tanks, you have to readjust the voltage to get the same vape.

I love the fact that you can change tanks on a VW battery and the device will automatically adjust the voltage according to the read resistance of the coil. Very nice. I know a lot of ProVari vapers are "tweakers" at heart so they don't mind tweaking their voltage.

I simply want the most consistent, highest quality vape, with as little work as possible.

 

[The Ocelot]

You're going to get tons of replies, but basically, no. They don't have a reason to, considering the sales of their existing products. Hobby vapers are not ProVape's target consumer. Their sales are primarily to people, like myself, who want a solid, dependable device, made in the US, that comes with a warranty. My friends bought ProVaris because they liked mine. They are not on ECF and don't really know the difference between a volt, a watt or a wallaby.

There are already many VW devices on the market targeted at people who are interested in that feature. Think about it. It doesn't make business sense for a company with a successful product to go through the research and development of a device for market already saturated with similar devices from China. ProVape is in business to make money. Their target consumer recognizes the name ProVari and associates it with a history of quality, "DNA 20" is a meaningless term to them. The customer just wants to vape, not be overwhelmed with terminology they don't understand and don't want to learn.

ETA: Supply and demand. Outside of hobby vapers, there isn't enough demand to make the proposal profitable.

 

[Baditude]

I know that variable voltage means you can adjust the watts to the coil, once you swap tanks, you have to readjust the voltage to get the same vape.

I love the fact that you can change tanks on a VW battery and the device will automatically adjust the voltage according to the read resistance of the coil. Very nice. I know a lot of ProVari vapers are "tweakers" at heart so they don't mind tweaking their voltage.

I simply want the most consistent, highest quality vape, with as little work as possible.

Well, a Provari will certainly give you consistancy and a high quality vape. I choose my juice attachment's resistance wisely (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) and consistantly. I change between tanks at least 3 - 4 times a day. I often do not have to tweek the voltage, as my flavors often taste their best between 3.8v - 4.2 volts. But there are times when I want a little more voltage and I just adjust it higher. Not a big deal and involves very little work.

I use 2.0 ohm clearomizers without any issue, too. Typically that doesn't present a problem. But, if that voltage I was using with my cartotanks is too warm, it takes 5 seconds to turn it down lower. It's second nature.

 

[p.opus]

The question has been posed to Provape multiple times in the past. The standard line is that they have looked into the possibility of using variable wattage, but no plans have been made for upcoming models or updates.

If having variable wattage is a gamechanger for you, a Provari is not likely a good choice for you. It's basically a different way to get to the same place. People who choose a Provari are more interested in other characteristics in a mod than what variable wattage brings to the table.

Dependability, consistancy, reliability, repairability, durability. Build quality and top of the line components. Attention to detail. Top of the line customer service. One year warranty. Ability to have a Provari repaired for life for very reasonable parts/service fees and returned good as new within a weeks time. It's a basic mod that does what it does better than any other VV mod made.

All of the features you mentioned above are what draw me to the product. I would like plug and play added to that list. I run mini protanks as my primary vape. I have no interest in rebuilding coils or the like. When I swap tanks, I want the unit to compensate for the slight deviation of coil resistance in the new tank and provide me with the same flavor as I had on the previous tank.

It's by no means a "deal breaker". However, if one is on the horizon, I would definitely hold off on buying one until a VW model hit the market.

The performance gap between Provari and it's competitors is definitely narrowing. The performance of the MVP 2 and Itaste vv3 is pretty impressive for it's price point. They are not a Provari, but pretty good in their own right. The Futura is another Made in US product that is on the verge of making a big splash.

I see an VW ProVari being a forgone conclusion. I'm just wondering if it is in the near future or further down the road.

 

[Baditude]

I see an VW ProVari being a forgone conclusion. I'm just wondering if it is in the near future or further down the road.

Near future? No.

Down the road? Who knows. Provari's are selling as well now as they ever have, they are a very popular VV mod, the top of their class for good reason. Does it have competition? Competitors have come in gone in the past three years. There may be a few presently which equal or even exceed a Provari's capabilities. But will they have the customer service and easy availability that a Provari has consistantly shown remains to be seen.

Why wait for a VW model Provari when they retain their resale value so well?

 

[Kemosabe]

The question has been posed to Provape multiple times in the past. The standard line is that they have looked into the possibility of using variable wattage, but no plans have been made for upcoming models or updates.

If having variable wattage is a gamechanger for you, a Provari is not likely a good choice for you. It's basically a different way to get to the same place. People who choose a Provari are more interested in other characteristics in a mod than what variable wattage brings to the table.

Dependability, consistancy, reliability, repairability, durability. Build quality and top of the line components. Attention to detail. Top of the line customer service. One year warranty. Ability to have a Provari repaired for life for very reasonable parts/service fees and returned good as new within a weeks time. It's a basic mod that does what it does better than any other VV mod made.

well written, Bad.

i will add that if one does their math, and looks closely enough at the results, youll see that increasing/decreasing voltage by 0.1v compared to increasing/decreasing wattage by 0.5w, yields nearly identical results. and most VW devices adjust by 0.5w at a time.

for example, with a 2Ω atty at 4v, you get 8w. if you bump that up by 0.1v, your wattage goes to 8.4w- nearly identical.
if you bump it down to 3.9v, youre at 7.6w- again, nearly identical.

dont rule out provari due to no VW. VW is more glitz than function. especially seeing how wattage isnt the be-all-end-all for atomizers. different types of attys get used at different wattages, so its not like you just lock in your wattage and forget it. not for me anyway. clearos cant handle high wattage, and neither can cartos. but attys and rbas on the other hand welcome high wattage with open arms.

 

[The Ocelot]

All of the features you mentioned above are what draw me to the product. I would like plug and play added to that list. I run mini protanks as my primary vape. I have no interest in rebuilding coils or the like. When I swap tanks, I want the unit to compensate for the slight deviation of coil resistance in the new tank and provide me with the same flavor as I had on the previous tank.

It's by no means a "deal breaker". However, if one is on the horizon, I would definitely hold off on buying one until a VW model hit the market.

The performance gap between Provari and it's competitors is definitely narrowing. The performance of the MVP 2 and Itaste vv3 is pretty impressive for it's price point. They are not a Provari, but pretty good in their own right. The Futura is another Made in US product that is on the verge of making a big splash.

I see an VW ProVari being a forgone conclusion. I'm just wondering if it is in the near future or further down the road.

There is no device on the market that is 100% plug and play. Both VV and VW have to be adjusted for taste, as no juice tastes exactly the same in every tank and your taste can change throughout the day. I only really like one juice, so I keep it in a number of tanks, as each tastes slightly different.

In a limited sense, all of my devices are plug and play, because the settings are within a fairly narrow range. My toppers are all of a similar resistance, so my VV devices and my VW devices are all set to what I like and only fine tuning is required.

I don't rebuild or have any plans to. I'm quite happy with carto tanks, Protanks and other BCC/BDC type clearos.

 

[robo74]

I guess me being newer, or at this point no desire to learn VW or how it relates. But here is what I do know...
This darn things fires up when I need it. No difference in vape from vape to vape. I have the cheap BCC tanks, and now my first carto tank (ibtanked). Everything just works. I adjust my voltage as needed from flavor to flvor or tank to tank.

Now I have evic.. I think that one does VW... Yet, I have no clue what that means to me, no desire either because the evic is not smooth like my provari. This reminds me, need to put the evic on ebay so it can find a new home.

Also reminds me that I guess I should change the battery on my provari, its been blinking the last 1.5 hours but it keeps giving me a nice strong vape... not like my evic that likes to crap out below 40%.

ok.. im done with my ramble

 

[The Ocelot]

well written, Bad.

i will add that if one does their math, and looks closely enough at the results, youll see that increasing/decreasing voltage by 0.1v compared to increasing/decreasing wattage by 0.5w, yields nearly identical results. and most VW devices adjust by 0.5w at a time.

for example, with a 2Ω atty at 4v, you get 8w. if you bump that up by 0.1v, your wattage goes to 8.4w- nearly identical.
if you bump it down to 3.9v, youre at 7.6w- again, nearly identical.

dont rule out provari due to no VW. VW is more glitz than function. especially seeing how wattage isnt the be-all-end-all for atomizers. different types of attys get used at different wattages, so its not like you just lock in your wattage and forget it. not for me anyway. clearos cant handle high wattage, and neither can cartos. but attys and rbas on the other hand welcome high wattage with open arms.

While everything you say is true, I believe it's the equations that often scare people away. They look at what you wrote as if it was written in Esperanto and think, "VV is hard. I'm never going to remember all that stuff. I just want to set my device at 8 watts and not worry about it."

We know that's not really how it works, but it's often presented to new vapers that way.

 

[Ozwald]

While everything you say is true, I believe it's the equations that often scare people away. They look at what you wrote as if it was written in Esperanto and think, "VV is hard. I'm never going to remember all that stuff. I just want to set my device at 8 watts and not worry about it."

We know that's not really how it works, but it's often presented to new vapers that way.

VW is hard. I just want to press the button a couple times & adjust the voltage up or down a tenth or 2 if it's not tasting quite right. Then press the button a couple more times because it's fun & the led's are pretty.

 

[Baditude]

Variable voltage is really easy. Know your atty's resistance and add the number 2 to get a good ballpark voltage output.

Ie. 2 ohm cartomizer + "2" = 4 volts.

 

[The Ocelot]

Variable voltage is really easy. Know your atty's resistance and add the number 2 to get a good ballpark voltage output.

Ie. 2 ohm cartomizer + "2" = 4 volts.

It will also give you the approximate wattage.

2 ohm carto + 2 = 4. Set the volts at 4 and 8 watts are produced
2.5 ohm carto + 2 = 4.5. Set the volts at 4.5 and 8.1 watts are produced
3 ohm carto + 2 = 5. Set the volts at 5 and 8.3 watts are produced

Since I already know the above and I know I like a cool vape, when I put on a 3 ohm carto, I set the voltage at 4 and dial up to where it tastes good. I'm really not doing math, since the formula never changes and I never look at those silly charts.

 

[Chadastrophic]

If I'm switching juice devices I'm switching flavors, and not all my flavors are best at say 12watts. So VW has little benefit to me.

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[PLANofMAN]

Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world who doesn't turn into an electrical engineer when I pick up a mod. I buy everything with ohms between 1.8 and 2.4. I set the voltage at 3.9, vape and adjust for taste. I've had my ProVari set to 4.1 for about four months now. Every juice I stick on it tastes good.

Honestly, the only time I have to play with the settings is when I use Mad Murdock's 710, that juice does not like high temperatures.

 

[The Ocelot]

Sometimes I feel like the only person in the world who doesn't turn into an electrical engineer when I pick up a mod. I buy everything with ohms between 1.8 and 2.4. I set the voltage at 3.9, vape and adjust for taste. I've had my ProVari set to 4.1 for about four months now. Every juice I stick on it tastes good.

Honestly, the only time I have to play with the settings is when I use Mad Murdock's 710, that juice does not like high temperatures.

I'm that way most of the time, but I have one juice I like cooler in the morning and warmer in the evening.

 

[DPLongo22]

There is no device on the market that is 100% plug and play. Both VV and VW have to be adjusted for taste, as no juice tastes exactly the same in every tank and your taste can change throughout the day. I only really like one juice, so I keep it in a number of tanks, as each tastes slightly different.

In a limited sense, all of my devices are plug and play, because the settings are within a fairly narrow range. My toppers are all of a similar resistance, so my VV devices and my VW devices are all set to what I like and only fine tuning is required.

I don't rebuild or have any plans to. I'm quite happy with carto tanks, Protanks and other BCC/BDC type clearos.

What she said ^

 

[BigB_117]

I've never used a variable wattage device myself, but I see no reason to. As far as I can tell looking at the math, the end result is the same.

With my Provari, and my ego twists before that, I just start the voltage low on a new juice and turn it up slowly until I get the vapor and flavor that I want. If I turn it up too high and it gets too hot or tastes off, I just turn it down. No math involved. Once I find the sweet spot for a juice I just make a mental note of it.

I also don't see the point of keeping the same wattage when switching tanks because different juice tastes better at different levels so I'm probably going to adjust my settings when I change tanks anyways.

All of my tanks are setup with 3.2 ohm cartomizers in them, so even when I do adjust I'm usually just moving from say 4.5-4.7ish for sweet juices and 5.0-5.5 for my menthols.

I set my wife up with an ego twist the other day, I didn't explain ohms, volts, watts, or anything to her. I just said twist the knob this way to turn it up, and this way to turn it down, start low and turn it up till it tastes good and makes enough vapor. She's perfectly happy. If I told her the same thing for a variable wattage device I don't think she would even know they were different.