This seems to be about a lot more than banning importation of disposables. Not allowing nicotine base to be sold except through pharmacies which do not actually sell it seems to be one, which would be a different thing. IThis is happening as well? That is going to be a serious problem.Aussie vapers speak out about the ban - Dr Colin Mendelsohn
AUSSIE VAPERS ARE ANGRY, ANXIOUS AND FEARFUL about Mark Butler’s proposed vaping crackdown. Many are genuinely terrified of returning to smoking and very few are willing to comply with the new laws. Vapers feel that Mark Butler is not listening. He hears one side of the story from his advisers...colinmendelsohn.com.au
True. And wherever there is money to be made there will be someone trying to do it. Usually. This seems to me to be the MO of Murdoch. It seems he looks for those things that are so awful no one will do them and then does them. His public relations passes this off as “making the hard choices” and “seeing things other people don’t.” I personally see it as almost inhuman venality. The things have been seen and known for a long time. It’s just that the ramifications are so awful and horrific in the long term, no human will do them. In its way it’s more or less the same thing though. Sometimes cleaning up a mess no one is willing to and creating a mess so bad no one can ever clean it up are indistinguishable.
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We shall see then. You imply niccy fits aren’t nicotine fits at all then. I will be titrating down off unprotonated in the near future. As it also wasn’t apparently as powerful an anti-anxiety as I thought. If it is as you say it’s the only non-addictive anti-anxiety drug that exists though. ALL the others were addictive. Xanax was particularly bad that way. The problem I see with the article is the mights and maybes. No process is described. No pathway given. It’s a hunch. Possibly a good hunch, but a hunch. Nicotine has been the gold standard for addiction for many years. The whole anti-anxiety thing could explain that.No. Cigarettes are, nic isn't.
One of the most respected researchers in the field, Dr. Paul Newhouse, Director of Vanderbilt University’s Center for Cognitive Medicine, argues that nicotine “seems very safe even in nonsmokers. In our studies we find it actually reduces blood pressure chronically. And there were no addiction or withdrawal problems, and nobody started smoking cigarettes. The risk of addiction to nicotine alone is virtually nil.” Tobacco has also been considered harmful because it is highly addictive, but whether nicotine has the same addictive potential remains unclear. According to Dr. Newhouse, “nicotine by itself isn’t very addictive at all… [it] seems to require assistance from other substances found in tobacco to get people hooked.”Is Everything We Know About Nicotine Wrong?
The tobacco plant, nicotiana tabacum, has been cultivated, chewed and smoked by the Native Americans since about 6000 B.C., possibly longer. For millennia, tobacco has been an important part of society, and used frequently for ceremonial and medicinal purposes. And yet today, we all know that...
italics theirs, red mine.
That's just one reference to the NON-addictive quality of nic - without all the other alkaloids in burned tobacco,
We don't need to perpetuate the myths, imo.
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You seem to be differentiating the two. I have seen it called physical addiction and mental addiction and it was about physical side affects, as there can be even life threatening side effects for some drugs. That word may also be removed. I’ve run into that a couple of times now.
Heh. I actually patreoned that thing. That still just throws it into the realm of the barely known though, which is the traditional stomping grounds of mountebanks. If so more research is urgently needed, and Phillip Morris if they’ve done it but not quite officially finished it and instead “stopped” the study “before it was finished” (which is likely given their historical behavior) thus leaping through the quite disturbing loop hole there, One would think they would be trumpeting such a thing.Anti-smoking partisans all say it's addictive. Actual research, not so much.
Most of our notions about nicotine stem from the anti-tobacco educational efforts initiated in the 1980s. Thanks in large part to those efforts, there is no longer a debate about harms caused by smoking. But, through a case of guilt by association, they also led to beliefs that nicotine is addictive in and of itself and that nicotine causes cancer. Such notions stigmatized the substance and its users, regardless of the method or purpose of its consumption. As the documentary shows, these ideas are not only wrong but harmful for individuals, public health, and science.Documentary Exposes Global Nicotine Misinformation Campaign - Competitive Enterprise Institute
A new documentary, You Don’t Know Nicotine, posits that everything we thought we knew about nicotine could be wrong.
Yup, Australia is banning all vape, gear, juice, nic etc.
Cigarettes are very addictive, but it's not just because of the nicotine. It is the whole combination within the cigarette.
