Is Vaping Dying?

[TheOdessa]

The vape shop that opened up near me by the local college gets busier then a lot of bars around. I couldn't believe it - but then again I can. I forgot not all college kids like to get drunk LOL

I am 28 now and far out of college but I love this new vape shop so I venture back during the day to work as I travel a lot for work and can 99% of what I need done out of an office.

 

[The Joel Train]

Nope, vaping is still blasting in record numbers. Things are rapidly changing though. Inexpensive, regulated mods are booming. MVP, Istick, etc and they should be. 30 bucks for a 20w mod that lasts all day. Tanks that last, don't leak & hold enough juice to last all day. Not as many issues or questions on the forums as there used to be because stuff works better & better all the time. There will always be a few folks that will want the high end stuff but for the every day vaper an Istick & Aerotank for $50 delivered to your door is tough to beat.

Exactly I find it's growing, I am one of these vapers. It's as cheaper alternative to smoking and vaping technology is getting more simple and reliable. There may not be as many advanced vapers personally I have no intention of advancing. I have had very little issues with my aerotank it was fairly cheap and is pretty simple to trouble shoot. As Mr.Kindred said there's not as many issues and if people run into them all the questions are answered here. There may be a little less chatter but I feel there's more vaping.

 

[Caffeine7]

Maybe the hipsters are moving on to other uber hip stuff instead of vaping. Imagine a world with vape shops free of bearded, skinny jean wearing annoyances.

 

[Stretchman]

The biggest issue right now for vaping is batteries. The growth of the capabilities of mods and apvs out there is amazing, but it's getting more and more difficult to find batteries for them. Especially when people who are doing all mech stuff start talking about how batteries can explode. The battery manufacturers are looking at that with a jaundiced eye, because no matter what, it'll reflect poorly on them if they have a lot of issues with their batteries being used the way that we use them.

That's also affecting the apv market, since most of these newer boxes are using the same batteries that a lot of mech modders are using, to get those higher numbers. VTC5s are all but extinct, and many of the newer apv boxes require a 30 amp battery in order to function correctly. That's going to make things rough. I don't think that anyone expected what happened, and I am willing to wager that most, if not all of those batteries were intended for the power tool market. Rechargeable flashlights don't need 30 amps.

I think that in order to make this thing work, they are going to have to find a source for the batteries that are needed to run these devices. Without them, they are somewhat useless. The new Dovpo DT-50 has a 4000 mah battery built in, but cannot be used while charging. The istick and others are also building them into their devices, and the original dna-30 from VS had built in as well. I don't think anyone ever expected to see the power levels and extremes people are taking this to.

Might get to the point where you'll have to be plugged in through a transformer in order to vape at the level you want to. Even then, that amp draw. BTW< does anyone here want to stick something in their mouths that they have to plug into a wall? I think protected batteries and regulated devices are going to be the next wave. No one wants to have to explain why someone blew their face off.

Hopefully, they'll come up with a solution we can all live with. Th only time I've ever used more than 22 watts was with an rba built out at one ohm. It's quite the expeience, but not something I do every day. Heck, my apv is set at 9 watts, with an emod type tank on it, and a .8 coil. I am loving it. No arguing that
the higher end apvs make all the difference in the world when it comes to a quality vape. I just hope I can still find batteries for it when the time comes.

 

[smacuser]

I just died a little inside.

 

[Jman8]

I predict vaping will be dead in 647 years and humans then, on another planet, will look back in the archives and realize this thread had totally nailed when if first started to die.

 

[Madspec]

The vaping industry is getting bigger and bigger every day. The vaping community was generally on forums like this one at first but Facebook came along and cheaper mods also. Now, what I find is that ECF and other forums are more for the "hard core" vapers, more advanced, and beginners are on Facebook. I am talking in general here, that's what I am seeing.

 

[WillyZee]

As long as we have the Hiltons, Kardashians and Jenners around ... there will still be vaping.


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[optsmk]

Vaping seems to be getting bigger and bigger around here. The only negative thing I have notices are that some of the shops are beginning to look like they are about to go out of business. But I have a feeling it's just because there are so many vape shops around here. I did a count on Yelp for vape shops in my city and there was something like 15-20 of them just in my city. And that's only the shops that are on Yelp. There are a lot more if you count all the little liquor stores around that sell cheap stuff and ecigs like Vues and Blues.

 

[drsocal]

I think its about the same as it was last year.

 

[TheBikeGuy]

It's not dying around here. There are no good vape shops, that I know of, but you see people vaping a lot. I think the prices are going down because of good quality clones. People in general don't care about about high end quality anymore. They want it, but they aren't willing to pay for it. That's why we have Walmart. The average person isn't going to pay $200 dollars for a 4" piece of threaded copper or stainless steel tubing. They're going to go online, read reviews, then pay $20 for something that seems to be the same thing to them. They will probably still be thinking, "Geez, I could have gotten 2 foot of copper tubing at Home Depot for 6 bucks."

 

[jdm1982]

it never even started where i live. i might as well go in a timewarp back to 1465 with my 12 gauge boomstick and my galaxy 4 cellphone.


id get the same looks

 

[Stretchman]

All the local vape shops in Lauderdale have foot traffic in them. Normally 3 or 4 deep when I go. That's a good thing. We're also seeing some national brands of fluid being stoicked locally, as well as some great juice being made right here. That there premium vg costs some bread. And after waiting for vapemail this week, I can see why B&Ms still do pretty good. I have ordered lots a stuff online, but it's never been quite the same as vapemail. Might need to adjust my nic levels.

 

[James Wilson]

A few weeks ago I was at a food pantry and discovered the person behind me in line also vaped. The women behind her was trying to get her husband to quit smoking. We both ended up explaining to her about vaporizers. lol. It is growing. Just some smokers are stubborn and it is a tough habit to break. I also found out from her that our tobacco store here in town now carries vape gear and juice. From what she was telling me, it might be decent. I haven't had the money to stop in there yet but I might be getting some cash for christmas. So if I do I plan on stopping in and seeing what they got. From what she told me they let you try juice before you buy it which is a good sign. Back when I was a smoker I occasionally stopped in there in the past. So they are a pretty well run place and decent enough size. So I have high hopes on this.

 

[keepsmiling]

About the "greedy stores".
B&M stores are not "greedy" by having higher prices. It cost far more to run a B&M than a website with bulk supply.

 

[Rickajho]

I have been vaping for over a year now and it seems that there are less and less people on the forums and the values of mods have been going down. Is vaping dying? I was thinking of creating a high end mod, and don't want to get into a dying market. Please let me know what you guys think.

Well let's just see what it says right here alrighty then: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forum.php Click!

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Doesn't seem that dead to me. And that doesn't even take into account all the thousands of lurkers and hangers on who troll this forum for years, reading but never joining.

But if you are looking for help with product development and business and marketing plans - you have the wrong forum.

 

[jjcordone]

It does seem like the forum is getting fewer posts - I suspect its because the vaping gear has matured to the point where even the low priced solutions work really well.
People come here learn not to get sucked in with the mall kiosk stuff - buy something that works decent and go away.
I remember when I started out and I paid $100 for a five pack of prefilled cartomizers, a charger and a couple of KR808 batteries.
Even an iStick with a Nautilus is out there now at around $60, an eGo with a Protank is around $25.
Some good low cost stuff out there now.

Anyway if the activity is really dropping I hope its this and not the horror story propaganda that the media is spreading.
The other day a Boston radio station ran a piece saying vaping equipment was now being used for illegal drugs and children are doing it in their classrooms
They were saying the sale of "ecig pens" needs to be put under strict controls "for the children".
What a load of crap.

 

[The Torch]

It does seem like the forum is getting fewer posts - I suspect its because the vaping gear has matured to the point where even the low priced solutions work really well.
People come here learn not to get sucked in with the mall kiosk stuff - buy something that works decent and go away.
I remember when I started out and I paid $100 for a five pack of prefilled cartomizers, a charger and a couple of KR808 batteries.
Even an iStick with a Nautilus is out there now at around $60, an eGo with a Protank is around $25.
Some good low cost stuff out there now.

Anyway if the activity is really dropping I hope its this and not the horror story propaganda that the media is spreading.
The other day a Boston radio station ran a piece saying vaping equipment was now being used for illegal drugs and children are doing it in their classrooms
They were saying the sale of "ecig pens" needs to be put under strict controls "for the children".
What a load of crap.

It's absolutely impossible for me to even read the first post for 1/10th of the new threads on here... How could anyone even reply to a thread if things were even more hectic in the past? I'm on other forums where it is possible to follow most threads and those are definitely not getting less activity than in the past, on the contrary. This is by far the busiest forum I've been on...

I do notice that most newbie questions are much more advanced questions than in the past, though. Perhaps stickies or ease of accessibility to information through other medias are responsible for that.

 

[Gummy Bare]

About the "greedy stores".
B&M stores are not "greedy" by having higher prices. It cost far more to run a B&M than a website with bulk supply.

Yea, I think most of us get that.... Plus I kinda look at it as the "I can get this right now tax, instead of waiting a week for the mail to arrrive". B&M places are a must, but I'll always get most of my stuff online just because I can't afford being juice at the shop since I vape so much.

So I have my 2-3 juices I can get a ton of online for cheap... Then I use the B&M as a "treat" for me when I got a little extra money. Plus when I got a bunch of extra money, I'll get a high end mod or atty at one of them. Plus it's also a cool place to meet up with other vapers.

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[Jonner]

I started vaping 4 years ago, from that time to this past summer, I saw practically no one else vaping, and Brick & Mortar shops were few and far between. From this past summer to the present, hardly a day goes by that I don't see at least one person vaping, and it seems shops are popping up everywhere. Dying? Hardly...going "mainstream" is more like it.

But if I was going to try to design and market a vaping product, I wouldn't aim for high-end. I would aim for the mass market and try to put out a high performing mid-level priced product. But there are already a lot of products that fit that description already, so I don't know.

Just my .02