Is vaping more dangerous than we think?
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It amazes me how little people tend to read or do their own research. I did two months of research while I smoked to determine if vaping was a better alternative.
There is so much information available, do some research, read!
The timing of this release is based on the Pending Deeming Regulation. People need to understand that there a millions of dollars at stack and the MSA agreement will become useless as more and more people turn to vaping. They have to pass the Deeming Regs to protect their piggy bank.
A recent scientific study completed just compared the contaminants in vapor to normal room air. If I was home right now I could post a dozen studies completed by non-bias medical professionals supporting that vaping is 95% safer than smoking. It's not 100% safer but I will take a chance on the five percent. My health has improved immensely since I start vaping.
The chemicals everyone keeps talking about were also found in much higher concentrations in conventional cigarette's. For Christ sake do some homework, learn something, stop listening to the propaganda.
Find a reported case (multiple) of popcorn lung from tobacco use and them come back and post a link to the study.
For crying out loud, become self educated and learn the truth.
Dr.F: “tobacco cigarette smoke contains high levels of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, on average 100 and 10 times higher,” compared to average e-cigarette exposure.
But even more concerning for those who may want to exaggerate the risks of using e-cigarettes, is that even tobacco smoke has no identifiable link with any cases of popcorn lung.
Some additional reading from the other side:
How The Media Totally Exaggerated Study On Risk Of ‘Popcorn Lung’ From E-Cigarettes
There is so much information available, do some research, read!
The timing of this release is based on the Pending Deeming Regulation. People need to understand that there a millions of dollars at stack and the MSA agreement will become useless as more and more people turn to vaping. They have to pass the Deeming Regs to protect their piggy bank.
A recent scientific study completed just compared the contaminants in vapor to normal room air. If I was home right now I could post a dozen studies completed by non-bias medical professionals supporting that vaping is 95% safer than smoking. It's not 100% safer but I will take a chance on the five percent. My health has improved immensely since I start vaping.
The chemicals everyone keeps talking about were also found in much higher concentrations in conventional cigarette's. For Christ sake do some homework, learn something, stop listening to the propaganda.
Find a reported case (multiple) of popcorn lung from tobacco use and them come back and post a link to the study.
For crying out loud, become self educated and learn the truth.
Dr.F: “tobacco cigarette smoke contains high levels of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, on average 100 and 10 times higher,” compared to average e-cigarette exposure.
But even more concerning for those who may want to exaggerate the risks of using e-cigarettes, is that even tobacco smoke has no identifiable link with any cases of popcorn lung.
Some additional reading from the other side:
How The Media Totally Exaggerated Study On Risk Of ‘Popcorn Lung’ From E-Cigarettes
Ban the Sun, no research needed, I can confirm when it's 120 degrees outside that direct sunlight will take your breath away.
Well I'm a world renowned scientist and you're all wrong I'll post all my research after you swear allegiance to me.
No. Difference is in nicotine concentration, not in flavoring. Because of high nic you need much less juice to get nic fix. Decreasing nic you increase juice (and flavoring) consumption. So, it is still one pack.I have done lots of laboratory work with blu Ecigs and you dont vape a blu empty in 400 puffs. You'll get about half the juice out.
So it's half a pack.
no no, if 1ml of ejuice has 21 times less diacetyl than a cigarette then vaping 21ml of ejuice you would come into contact with the amount of diacetyl found in 1 cigarette...
But in your example 1 ml of juice had more diacetyl than one cigarette.
If only our society cared so much about whats in our food, medications, vaccines, hygiene products, etc. Did you know the World Health Organization put cell phone radiation in the same carcinogen group as mustard gas? You can't smoke a phone though so it must be okay. Keep on Face Timing with your 8 year old after giving him Coca cola but god forbid he is around somebody who is vaping.
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Yes but a cigarette on average only has 15 puffs, how many puffs do you get off a ml? Look at people that vape 24mg how long is it going to last for them?
This is very subjective and varies substantially, generally the higher nicotine you have the higher amounts of flavor you have to cover the nicotine taste and that is where you will see the 529ug/ecig
This isn't much of a problem for sub ohm, since there isn't as much flavoring...
But puffs does not matter. It daily consumption which matters.
From my (rather small with cigalikes) experience it does not look like really huge difference in amount of flavorings does exists. But it would be interesting to learn numbers.
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I'm a bit miffed as "we" doesn't seem to include "me". I don't like it when "we" thinks for "me".
Do you have any links to info on this statement. I am not saying you are wrong but I've not seen it posted by anyone else.
Sorry, I know this is kinda off topic but this is a topic concerning mis-information so not totally off topic
Correlation does not equal causation.
If you took the time to full educate yourself you will quickly find out that there is essentially ZERO evidence that 'using other stuff' has any link to the initiation of schizophrenia/psychosis, what the research actually says is that 'other stuff' tends to bring underlying inherent psychological problems to the forefront.
This is why I advocate vaping flavorless if you're concerned.
If "harm reduction" is the name of the game here (and it is for me), flavorless is the safest way to go.
Also, people seem to be confused. Dr F discredited the methods of testing and the lack of further explanation in the recent article. He did not condone diacetyl/AP/etc. as safe, and still 100% advocates avoiding these chemicals in e-liquids. I could understand how, if you didn't want to read that, you'd manage to miss that when reading his response.
I mix my own juice, if i'm mixing higher concentrations for someone else(1 person 24mg) I have to put about 25% flavoring to mask the nicotine, in my 6mg juice I only need about 6% flavoring, I actually only use about 4 or 5% in mine since I don't like too much flavor.Do you have any links to info on this statement. I am not saying you are wrong but I've not seen it posted by anyone else.
Sorry, I know this is kinda off topic but this is a topic concerning mis-information so not totally off topic
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