Is vaping more dangerous than we think?

[Caterpiller]

.... A $50 liter of 100mg nic has 100,000 mg of nic. That's the same as the yield from 5,000 packs of cigarettes. Wouldn't that be the deal of the century?

Actually a 100mg litre bottle of Nicotine Base has 100mg of nicotine in it.

It's 100mg\per litre and therefore at 10% concentration.

Food for thought: if nic is ever taxed per milligram, a tax of 1 cent per milligram would be mild for commercial juice. A 12 mg 15ml bottle would be taxed at $1.80. Not too bad on a $5-$10 cost now, considering some tax schemes just throw a 100% or so tax on it.
But that 1 liter 100mg bottle that costs $50 - $100 now would be taxed at $1000. That is not far fetched. Every vapist should have a liter or two in the freezer at the untaxed $50 price...

Taxed at one cent per mg of nicotine, a 15ml bottle of 12mg juice would be taxed at 0.18 of a cent.

12mg/Litre of nicotine = 1.2% nicotine.

1.2% of 15ml = 0.18ml of nicotine.

The 1 litre 100mg bottle, containing 100mg would therefore be taxed at $1.

In
Michigan a carton of cigs costs $60 which works out to 30 cents per cig or 30 cents per mg of nic because one cigarette yields 1 mg of nic. If liquid nic were valued that way a 1 liter bottle of 100 mg nic (1000 ml X 100mg) with 100,000 mg of nic would be worth $30,000 instead of $50. In Chicago, where a pack of cigs costs $12 a 1 liter bottle would be valued at $60,000. Some more
math. 100,000 mg is 100 grams,, about 4 ounces. Gold is $1,000 an ounce. Nicotine in Michigan cigarettes is costing $,7,500 an ounce. In Chicago or New York
cigarettes it's $15,000 per ounce. Mr. Big Government Drug Dealer has a difficult problem. Does anybody sell a refrigerated gun safe?

Unless I'm missing something a litre of nicotine base labelled 100mg is really 100mg/Litre, so at 30 cents per mg that's $30.

Edit: I should mention that pure nicotine has a density of 1.009 g/ml, and I didn't bother to factor in the 0.009 and just considered 1mg to be
1ml.

 

[Rossum]

Actually a 100mg litre bottle of Nicotine Base has 100mg of nicotine in it.

It's 100mg\per litre and therefore at 10% concentration.



Taxed at one cent per mg of nicotine, a 15ml bottle of 12mg juice would be taxed at 0.18 of a cent.

12mg/Litre of nicotine = 1.2% nicotine.

1.2% of 15ml = 0.18ml of nicotine.

The 1 litre 100mg bottle, containing 100mg would therefore be taxed at $1.



Unless I'm missing something a litre of nicotine base labelled 100mg is really 100mg/Litre, so at 30 cents per mg that's $30.

Edit: I should mention that pure nicotine has a density of 1.009 g/ml, and I didn't bother to factor in the 0.009 and just considered 1mg to be 1ml, instead of 1.009ml.

No, a 1 liter bottle of 100mg/ml base has 100 GRAMS of nic. That's 100,000 mg.

 

[sofarsogood]

Actually a 100mg litre bottle of Nicotine Base has 100mg of nicotine in it.
It's 100mg\per litre and therefore at 10% concentration.
The 1 litre 100mg bottle, containing 100mg would therefore be taxed at $1.
Unless I'm missing something a litre of nicotine base labelled 100mg is really 100mg/Litre, so at 30 cents per mg that's $30.

I can't find my original post. May be I mis stated something. A 1 liter bottle with 10% nic has 100 ml of pure nic so 100,000 mg (milligrams). When you smoke one cigarette the smoke contains one milligram. I used to smoke 25 cigarettes a day so I was inhaling 25 mg of nic. If I vaped the same amount of nic 100,000 mg of nic /25 mg per day = 4,000 days supply of nic in that one liter bottle. That's about 11 years. (I vape 7 ml per day of 12 mg nic so a bottle would last me about 3.5 years. I would like to reduce my daily nic just to extend my nic stash.) If someone smoked 100,000 cigarettes those would cost 30 cents each at Michigan prices or $30,000.

If vaping is what it takes to keep someone from smoking nic is a valuable commodity for that person. Because of the possibility of government interference or high excise taxes it's prudent to put a couple of bottles of nic in the freezer. If the threat doesn't materilize there is still the option to do DIY which saves significant money.

 

[Caterpiller]

I stand corrected.

I got it wrong, and was working to 100mg/Litre, when you are all correct at 100mg/ml.

My bad

 

[zoiDman]

Unless I'm missing something a litre of nicotine base labelled 100mg is really 100mg/Litre, ...

Your Units are Off.

The way we Express Nicotine Levels is to say Milligrams per Milliliter.

So when someone says 100mg, what they are saying (or should be saying ) is 100mg/ml.

 

[Caterpiller]

Your Units are Off.

The way we Express Nicotine Levels is to say Milligrams per Milliliter.

So when someone says 100mg, what they are saying (or should be saying ) is 100mg/ml.

Yes, I was concerned that three people all were saying 100'000mg per litre and I was going to disagree, but in my mind it was 100mg/Litre, if I'd stopped to think about it, that could never of been a 10% concentration.

When Rossum piped in to correct me I knew I was going to be wrong

Got it now, 100mg per ml.

I've been doing DIY for about 8 months now, thankfully my calculator has kept me out of trouble

 

[zoiDman]

Yes, I was concerned that three people all were saying 100'000mg per litre and I was going to disagree, but in my mind it was 100mg/Litre, if I'd stopped to think about it, that could never of been a 10% concentration.

When Rossum piped in to correct me I knew I was going to be wrong

Got it now, 100mg per ml.

I've been doing DIY for about 8 months now, thankfully my calculator has kept me out of trouble

Don't feel like you are the only one who has Been Mistaken over this. Many People have made the Same Mistake.



A Big Part of the Problem is the Lazy Way that we tend to write Nicotine in Liquids. Instead of someone say's that they Vape 9mg. They should Really say they Vape 9mg/ml.

But we as People tend to be Lazy. And Love to Shorten things.

LOL