Is vaping worth the trouble of concealing it from your family?

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YoursTruli

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A friend of mine is willing to sell me one of his old e-cigs for a very cheap price. It works just fine and it's very nice to vape with (I've used it before) so there's no issue with discretely acquiring an e-cig. The only issue is how to hide it from my family. I'm 18 (19 in a few months) so obviously I don't need my family to make my decisions for me, but I also know when it's a good time to tell them things and when I should just keep it on the down low. Based on how my family is, vaping would definitely be a "down low" kind of thing. Would investing money in vaping (just as a hobby. It's not to get off of regular cigs or anything) be worth it if I could only vape freely in solitude or around (and occasionally with) my close and trusted friends?

Any relevant input is appreciated. :)

Something is off, how is it that you joined this forum in 2013 and are only age 18 now... 2 years later? I don't really understand the new trend in vaping to those never-smokers taking it up for fun but if you are an adult act like one not like some little kid sneaking still around behind his parents back and lying to them.
 

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why I said not to vape? because of the fact 1. it costs money ( in order to get money you need a job even doing chores = a job basically some sort of income ).

All hobbies cost money. Most to all activities cost money. We are on a vaping forum, where everyone presumably has the funds to buy stuff. In some cases, even if you have no money, there will be people in our great community that will willingly give you free stuff. I'd hate for the requirement to be "first you have to be a smoker." May as well just tell certain newbies, "go smoke for a year and then we'll treat you as a respectful member of the club."

2. why would you even invest money on something you don't even do which in return is smoking. Makes no sense to throw away money if you find that logical imo throw some of your cash to me.

Why would you vape if you don't smoke? Isn't that your question? To me, it is exactly like saying why would you drink soda when you never drank alcohol? You do know that drinking soda has some risks.

if he wants to vape 0mg go ahead who am I to stop him but unless you have the money to blow on juices, coils, etc.. your just wasting money at that point that can be invested properly into say food, future house, future car, college, video games, w.e. something basically MORE useful

If it is really only the money issue, then that to me is easily overcome. I spend like $300 a year on my vape stuff. I'm pretty sure I could get by with less than that and I'm also fairly sure I vape more in a week than OP will vape in the next year if they choose to take up vaping.
 

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No, of course not, because vaping ISN'T a tobacco product, I don't give a rat's hindparts what the gov't has to say about it -- just calling a thing something doesn't actually MAKE IT that thing, regardless of the gov't idiocy. I will NEVER admire that buck nekkid emperor's new clothes.

So, you managed to justified why lying makes sense to you.

I just know what a whole adolescence and young adulthood of dishonesty did to ME, and I can't recommend it. My advice would be, tell the truth about vaping, because it's ridiculous to lie about it. If they have a problem with it... move out. If that's not possible, then I guess lying is the only answer, but it's really asinine to lie about something so harmless -- sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear, rather than the truth, if they're of such limited intelligence that they can't DEAL with truth.

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If vaping is so harmless, then you'd ask the insurance people what they consider vaping nicotine to be? If they say, "a tobacco product" then you'd tell the truth or go with your version of the truth, which would amount to you lying. Insurance company could even say we consider zero nic to be a tobacco product, but the lie would likely be justified from your perspective, no?

So OP could just call vaping "walking" and tell the parents the "truth" that they have taken up a new habit and they will be walking in solitude, or with friends. Therefore, they'd be telling the truth.
 
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All hobbies cost money. Most to all activities cost money. We are on a vaping forum, where everyone presumably has the funds to buy stuff. In some cases, even if you have no money, there will be people in our great community that will willingly give you free stuff. I'd hate for the requirement to be "first you have to be a smoker." May as well just tell certain newbies, "go smoke for a year and then we'll treat you as a respectful member of the club."



Why would you vape if you don't smoke? Isn't that your question? To me, it is exactly like saying why would you drink soda when you never drank alcohol? You do know that drinking soda has some risks.



If it is really only the money issue, then that to me is easily overcome. I spend like $300 a year on my vape stuff. I'm pretty sure I could get by with less than that and I'm also fairly sure I vape more in a week than OP will vape in the next year if they choose to take up vaping.

The point to my question was simply: are you doing this for yourself or because your friends are doing it. yes it is fine for a non smoker to get into vaping they are not the same nor do you need to smoke before vaping I know a few people who never smoked a day in their lives but vape 6mg nic; then there are a TON of teenagers I know of that simply vape just because it's popular and at that point imo it is a money sink and one shouldn't get into it if it's only for popularity/trendy. Not much was stated by the OP to begin with thus one can only assume which is what I did. So was I wrong? could be for all I know he might be a pack a day smoker idk.

what I am also saying is if your not a smoker in general and starting to vape and go 0mg nic it makes no sense to even vape as that is already a money sink if you don't have the money to fund it. yes you can consider it a hobby and what you do with your money is non of my concern but that was just my 2 cents. Only reason why I said I look down upon people like that is simply because their are a lot of teenagers who start vaping due to popularity and imo that's just a HUGE waste of money.
 
ontop of that I am in a similar position as him but I have a job, I am of age to smoke, and my parents KNOW I smoke so I have no need to hide it.
You're really in the exact position as me. The only difference is that your parents are aware that you vape. I don't currently have a job, but that's because I'm a full time college student (14 credit hours, classes 5 days a week) at the moment and a job could simply never fit in my schedule. I do take up at least one summer job every summer though so I still have some form of income, though temporary. Lastly (and obviously), since I'm in college, that would mean I'm at the legal age to smoke/vape.
 

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I'm thinking just about all the people on this thread (includes lurkers) who are vaping because they use it as a smoking cessation tool, are all people that started smoking at an early age (likely before age 18). And while you shouldn't do as they did, but only as they say, just realize that their reasons for smoking were for noble reasons. It had nothing to do with being popular, social peer pressure, nor rebelling. And not only did they make the decision to start, but also to continue, for decades. Some will say, "the nicotine made me." But you who want to inhale a non-nic substance are in a whole other category of danger and a lifelong heap of trouble. How? I dunno. But I'm sure it makes sense to some people.
 

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I don't think I'll ever understand a fellow vaper who would tell a non-smoking wannabe vaper to not vape, even at 0 mg nic. Such ridiculous inconsistent rhetoric from these types that it is IMO not even worth paying attention to their (cough cough) wisdom.

I dont think I'll ever understand a fellow "vaper" who has the audacity to call themselves that while extolling the virtues of smoking cigarettes either.

My point is, some people are so far off the norm of these forums, as well as the actual truth, that Im not sure they even know where either starts.

Especially when almost every post Ive ever read from them involves justification, twisting things around 180 degrees and outright delusion.

Those are definitely not the kind of people I would ever take advice from..... on anything.....and most definitely not when it comes to vaping.
 
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I dnt see why if theres no nic why it should be hidden I dnt see a problem with it
Logical there should be no problem. But I don't know his family. Maybe there are some prejudices. Maybe he fears those prejudices are transported to e-smoking.

Those prejudices could start with r33fer madness and end with crack pipes. Who knows?

It's new technology and some of the old folks don't care about.
 

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Logical there should be no problem. But I don't know his family. Maybe there are some prejudices. Maybe he fears those prejudices are transported to e-smoking.

Those prejudices could start with ...... madness and end with crack pipes. Who knows?

It's new technology and some of the old folks don't care about.
I had an older female smoker ask "what's that?" In reference to my rig last night. I replied with "e-cigarette" to keep it simple. Her reply

"Looks like it tastes horrible"

Ugh, keep puffing your Benson and hedges and judging by looks. I could've helped her turn a new leaf,but she was instantly closed minded by the looks of a box that I promise you has tons more flavor than a nasty old analog.
 

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In my opinion, if you aren't using it to quit smoking and you have to hide it from your family, it is not worth it.
In my opinion, everyone has the own situation and reasons, and we should stop imposing our own limited views on who "should" or should not" be doing this. Your reasons are not better or more valid than someone else's. Vaping is not just for nicotine addicts.

Secrets aren't good. But enough of this "only smokers should vape" BS. We all have our reasons.


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    In my opinion, everyone has the own situation and reasons, and we should stop imposing our own limited views on who "should" or should not" be doing this. Your reasons are not better or more valid than someone else's. Vaping is not just for nicotine addicts.

    Secrets aren't good. But enough of this "only smokers should vape" BS. We all have our reasons.


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    I think you misunderstood me, I never said only smokers should vape. There was an "and" in my response that is actually a key part of my point. Also, I never claimed my opinion was more valid than someone else's. OP asked if we thought it was worth it, in other words he asked for peoples opinions. I offered my opinion which is that since he's not using it to quit smoking the hassles and stress of hiding it make it not worth it. If he didn't have to hide it, it wouldn't matter to me if he was a smoker or not. But since he does have to hide it, the only way I think it is worth it is if he was trying to quit smoking.

    Please don't assume there is more to my response than the words that are actually on the screen.
     
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