iStick vs Vaporshark and Nautilus vs Kayfun Lite Plus

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deadmeadow

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I'm still a newbie to vaping, just got back into it after going back to cancer sticks for awhile. But right now using a Protank 1 on an evod battery (My Spinner 2 I got last week off ebay quit working, think it may have been a clone)
and although I think it produces good clouds, I was thinking of taking my vaping experience to the next level so I've been doing some reading.

Right now I'm not really interested in the learning curve of mechanical mods and not interested in dripping yet as I'll be taking this new set-up everywhere and I'm sure I want a glass tank so I don't have to be refilling multiple times a day.

So taking in the consideration that I won't be dripping (yet) would there really be any point in paying $100 more for a vaporshark over a iStick? 20w vs 30w? Or is the vaporshark overall better constructed and might be worth the money in the long run anyway? I heard you can replace the batteries on the vaporshark, I'm not sure if you can on the iStick.

Then there's the decision between which tank.. The Nautilus what attracts me is the looks, capacity, and the dual coils. I have never tried a dual coil clearomizer and I hear the clouds and taste is awesome.
But, the replacement BVC coils are expensive and I hear they are even a little more tricky to re-wick than standard single coils, so I was looking at the Kayfun Lite Plus but I read that is midcoil and may have leaking problems an doesn't vape as good as a dual coil clearomizer like a nautilus.. I'm open to other suggestions on RBA's though as long as they are not drippers, I'd like if they can hold atleast 3.5ml of juice.

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This is really not a fair comparison. istick is less than $50. Vaporshark is almost $200. 2 different budget sizes. Same w Nautilus vs kayfun. Nautilus is under $40. Kayfun is a bit over $100 unless you get a clone. IMO its just not fair to campare them.

Holy crap I was not aware the Kayfun was that much!
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This is really not a fair comparison. istick is less than $50. Vaporshark is almost $200. 2 different budget sizes. Same w Nautilus vs kayfun. Nautilus is under $40. Kayfun is a bit over $100 unless you get a clone. IMO its just not fair to campare them.


I understand what you are saying, the vaporshark is obviously probably the superior device, but I was just asking if you think the enormously larger price tag would be worth it for someone like me that is just going to be using something like a nautilus or kayfun lite clone on it and may not need 30w of power? Or in the long run, might there be other superiorities in the vaporshark that would be worth digging up the extra money?

And that's what I thought about the kayfun vs nautilus dilemma, I am interested in re-building my coils so I'm leaning towards something like a kayfun, but I'm still curious if the nautilus performs better than the kayfun or not? If you can run it at higher power, get more vapor, and chainvape without it running dry versus the kayfun.

I'm definitely not interested in paying over $100 for a tank though, so now there's the dilemma of which clone is the best...

Thanks for the help. :)
 

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it's apples and oranges, if you want one you don't have to build coils or swap out batteries (and I realize the DNA has a charger port)

but in cost and effort it's two different critters, Nautilus (or I prefer Kanger V2 or Mega, if you want all day juice capacity) and an iStick will run you under $100 (under $50 if you're a savvy shopper)

and the other is in "over $100" mark over $200 if you go authentic and maybe if clones you could get it to near or under $100.

it's about budget and "fiddle factor"

both will give you a good vape though.
 

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it's apples and oranges, if you want one you don't have to build coils or swap out batteries (and I realize the DNA has a charger port)

but in cost and effort it's two different critters, Nautilus (or I prefer Kanger V2 or Mega, if you want all day juice capacity) and an iStick will run you under $100 (under $50 if you're a savvy shopper)

and the other is in "over $100" mark over $200 if you go authentic and maybe if clones you could get it to near or under $100.

it's about budget and "fiddle factor"

both will give you a good vape though.


Yeah, I was leaning towards the iStick. I don't live in luxury by any means and that's more in my budget, but if the VaporShark is better constructed and can change the batteries and it will last me a few years longer or more than an iStick (maybe not though) then I was bringing that into the consideration.

It's a tough dilemma for me.
 

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I am a pretty new vapour and my first step up the ladder from a standard ego was to an iStick. I have looked at lots and lots of different types of VW devices and for me it was more to do with the size of the iStick and the battery life. I didnot want a huge "light sabre" of a device just to get a day's vaping out of it.

Some people will say that the iStick does not give you the correct volts on screen which by all accounts is correct, due to how the electronics inside work. For me that is not an issue as it is my first VW device and I am still learning I just set it to what suits my taste buds.

So for me the iStick is an excellent device. It is small, it lasts me all day and more on one charge and I am getting the vape I want.

As for Kayfun's and nautalis I use neither. I have gone down the kanger route and I use the Kanger EMOW MEGA on my iStick. Reason being it is a 19mm wide so it sits perfect on the iStick (See my pic !!) it holds 2.8ml juice, which is not enough for me for a day but I use three and rotate different flavours throughout the day and the biggest plus is I can re-build the coils.

I have read a lot of people talk about the Aspire Bottom Vertical Coils and in my EMOW Mega I rebuild them to vertical coils and get an amazing vape in my opinion and suits what I am after at this moment in time.

I am sure as time goes by and more devices come along and different toppers and new "fads" I will get differerent devices and toppers but I am a happy vapour at the moment.
 

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Only way a kayfun leaks or doesn't beat a nautilus is if its not setup, powered or filled properly. Nautilus is an oversized clearomizer. Kayfun is a proper rba. Just get one that's well made. Also, the istick has a crap connector and is not serviceable. It's disposable. I prefer a hana modz type mod. Can easily be fitted with a fdv or varitube 510 and all other parts are easily found. If something fails it can be rebuilt. Not disposable. Getting an istick for now, taking real good care of it then replacing it when funds were available and making it a backup would be the only way I'd get one. Just my thoughts.
 

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I definitely recommend the Kayfun Lite Plus v2. The EHPro clone really is pretty good quality. I have one and I haven't had any problems with it at all. It's an awesome vape. I like a loose draw and the KFL+ is a tight draw though. But it's worth $40. I don't know about the iStick or the VaporShark. Check out Pbusardo's YouTube channel. He reviews both of them there.
 

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This is really simple..... if you want to build coils, get a kayfun clone. If you dont, Then you will most likely want a Nautilus or some Kanget Teck tank and coil heads you can just buy and swap out. Some folks even rebuild the aspire / kanger coil heads, but you dont have to. For the device, if you have something for now, then save up and get the vapor shark, I use mine daily since August and I have no complaints. If you need something now, then get what you can afford, then start saving for the one you really want.
 

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Thanks guys, I'm probably going to scoop up that EhPro kayfun lite plus v2.
Still indecisive on which battery/mod..

I'm beginning to think the VaporShark might be a little overkill as far as price is concerned at the moment.
But although the iStick seems like a good price, I don't like the idea of it being like a disposable camera either. Any better recommendations for under $100?

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deadmeadow

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This is really simple..... if you want to build coils, get a kayfun clone. If you dont, Then you will most likely want a Nautilus or some Kanget Teck tank and coil heads you can just buy and swap out. Some folks even rebuild the aspire / kanger coil heads, but you dont have to. For the device, if you have something for now, then save up and get the vapor shark, I use mine daily since August and I have no complaints. If you need something now, then get what you can afford, then start saving for the one you really want.

The Vaporshark DNA is more in my price range compared to the RDNA. ($120 vs $170)
Are you using the rDNA? I'm not sure what the big differences are between the two. Can you still change the battery on the DNA or is that only with the rDNA?
 

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The Vaporshark DNA is more in my price range compared to the RDNA. ($120 vs $170)
Are you using the rDNA? I'm not sure what the big differences are between the two. Can you still change the battery on the DNA or is that only with the rDNA?

You cannot change the battery on the DNA by yourself though they can service it for you for $25. The rDNA on the other hand can just be replaced with a 18650 battery.

As for your original question it depends on several things. You mentioned that you'd pay more for a device that'd last several years. IMO the istick hasn't been around long enough to determine if it's cheap cost is worth it in the long run. I nearly purchased one but am already seeing people post about issues with the 510. You can probably get a good condition DNA for $100 or less if you're patient. If you consider the fact that you might replace the istick device once in your lifetime of use then it still comes out to $80.

Overall I'd hunt down a used dna and kayfun.
 

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You cannot change the battery on the DNA by yourself though they can service it for you for $25. The rDNA on the other hand can just be replaced with a 18650 battery.

As for your original question it depends on several things. You mentioned that you'd pay more for a device that'd last several years. IMO the istick hasn't been around long enough to determine if it's cheap cost is worth it in the long run. I nearly purchased one but am already seeing people post about issues with the 510. You can probably get a good condition DNA for $100 or less if you're patient. If you consider the fact that you might replace the istick device once in your lifetime of use then it still comes out to $80.

Overall I'd hunt down a used dna and kayfun.

Thanks a lot man, that's what I'm definitely thinking I'm going to do.

One last question, forgive my incompetence on this subject. The reason I would want a kayfun is so I can replace the wicks quickly and easily myself. If I buy one am I going to have to make one of those microcoils before I can use it? Or does it come with some type of coil and a different material wick to get you started?
Or maybe there is even a place you can buy different ohms coils for it?
 

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i use the rDNA. The biggest difference is the DNA has a built in battery pack (non-removeable) - and not a very good battery life unless you'll be at a desk where you can charge and vape at the same time. The rDNA takes an 18650 battery and it is removeable. You can usb charge or remove and insert a fresh 18650. And the rDNA is slightly larger, really not much though. One fully charged 18650 gets me through an entire day.
 
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