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I see no mention of smoking/vaping as being a "right" in the first 1-10 amendments of the Constitution, nor in the 11-27 that have been amended to it afterwords. Driving your car isn't a "right" either.
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Eloquently stated, ma'am. Thank you for expressing how I feel about this and I'm presuming many others according to the thread responses herein.
I'm a clandestine e-smoker in public for the most part. I will take a hit from my JS on a (crowded) NYC subway train or in a store sans ever being noticed. Sometimes using the PV in public turns into an experiment in sociology. It's amazing to me how people look in one's general direction but never really *see* anything. lol
When I see someone looking, I always say "Its a vaporizer - wanna see it?"
Maybe I just like to hear myself talk lol
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a constitutional right.... nope never said that
I was responding to the concept that if there's no law specifically against vaping...
compared to an idiot looking to make sure there's no law against dressing like Hitler...?
well I guess I was unsuccessful at making the point so why continue to try.
30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!
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a constitutional right.... nope never said that
I was responding to the concept that if there's no law specifically against vaping...
compared to an idiot looking to make sure there's no law against dressing like Hitler...?
well I guess I was unsuccessful at making the point so why continue to try.
30 years of smoking....
Vaporized by my ScrewDriver!
Originally Posted by souporvapor 
I see it as a 'right' - yes I believe it's ok .... but that is not the same as being formally 'exempt' from any restriction.
ahhh yes - and we're back to Hitler aren't we.
Well so be it.
There are many 'rights' that can be taken away if one chooses to be beligerent, obnoxious, or just plain inconsiderate while exercising them.
I see it as a 'right' - yes I believe it's ok .... but that is not the same as being formally 'exempt' from any restriction.
ahhh yes - and we're back to Hitler aren't we.
Well so be it.
There are many 'rights' that can be taken away if one chooses to be beligerent, obnoxious, or just plain inconsiderate while exercising them.
Someone in another thread made a very good analogy that fits this discussion. So I'll repeat it here.
If someone is sitting at a restaurant table, in a movie theater, or on an airplane and is constantly blowing bubbles through one of those bubble wands, what do we think will happen?
Even though the bubbles are harmless to anyone they might come in contact with, and there is no law or specific policy against blowing bubbles, I think we can pretty much guarantee that a manager/owner/authority figure is going to ask that person to stop doing it.
If someone is sitting at a restaurant table, in a movie theater, or on an airplane and is constantly blowing bubbles through one of those bubble wands, what do we think will happen?
Even though the bubbles are harmless to anyone they might come in contact with, and there is no law or specific policy against blowing bubbles, I think we can pretty much guarantee that a manager/owner/authority figure is going to ask that person to stop doing it.
plus those soapy bubbles could get into an infant's eyeballs and make them blind.
let's outlaw bubbles, now that we're on the subject.
Interesting to hear all of that, thanks for the info! The seatbelt law wasn't toooo long ago, so I remember that. Strange that you could smoke in a hospital waiting area though. I remember hearing about when you could smoke on planes, so that probably stopped somewhere in the 80's I think.
Eh, as I have stated before, I try not to mention "Vaporizer" since it may give a bad impression on what it really is. Don't want anyone to think it is a drug thing, especially since marijuana is big business around here.
I agree completely. I am astounded by the numbers of recently ex smokers/now vapers who are not bothered by draconian smoking laws. I believe there are far more people here who starting vaping for the reasons you give than will admit to it. The added benefit is, of course, that many of us also cut back drastically on smoking or quit altogether without meaning to do so.
I'd rather call it a vaporizer than an e-cig. I think you might feel a bit too paranoid about drugs.
I work in mid-town manhattan - trust me, theres plenty of drugs there. Not one single person has thought I was doing drugs.
Eh, it's a big thing around here and this is a small town. Might be different in a bigger town. Heck, most of the people around here probably haven't ever even heard the word "vaporizer". ><
What I've been using to describe it to friends and family is nicotine vaporizer. By prefacing it with nicotine it immediately dispels any notions that it could be related to drug paraphenelia.
Good way to put it. That sounds better than "Personal Vaporizer" to me!
last i heard (April 1st) vaping doesnt fall under washington state smoking bans, per KING 5 news and the state AG...doesnt mean you CAN do it if the owners/management say they dont want it done there...is it really necessary to vape while walking thru wal mart looking for discount crap?
KING 5 Video on E-Cigs
KING 5 Video on E-Cigs
I live in New Orleans where there are plenty restaurants. In the days before smoking was banned on the entire planet, we had smoking and non smoking sections.
I recall that I would have to wait in line for a table in the smoking section while the non smoking dining room was mostly empty. Consequently, when the total ban occurred, restaurant owners were concerned that it would be bad for business.
I can see a day when many restaurants and lounges will display a sign on the door welcoming vapers. And these refuges will be our havens. This will promote more business for the restaurant owners and hopefully enlighten some of the less smug antis. They can even sell disposable e cigars at the counter like in the old days.
And on that day all will be right with the world.
I recall that I would have to wait in line for a table in the smoking section while the non smoking dining room was mostly empty. Consequently, when the total ban occurred, restaurant owners were concerned that it would be bad for business.
I can see a day when many restaurants and lounges will display a sign on the door welcoming vapers. And these refuges will be our havens. This will promote more business for the restaurant owners and hopefully enlighten some of the less smug antis. They can even sell disposable e cigars at the counter like in the old days.
And on that day all will be right with the world.
With the crazy stuff that goes on during Mardi Gras down there, it's hard to believe that anything is illegal down there!
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