I feel that Ithaka should stay the same size as the prototype. I think a slimmer Ithaka would hurt the looks; Presently, Ithaka and Ody are a perfect match with GGTS. Iatty is a bit slimmer, and is as slim as you can go and still maintain the look of one integrated PV. Penny or a slim Ithaka on GGTS will look like "an atty on a battery holder" and will not have the sleek look that a bigger atomizer gives.
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I feel that Ithaka should stay the same size as the prototype. I think a slimmer Ithaka would hurt the looks; Presently, Ithaka and Ody are a perfect match with GGTS. Iatty is a bit slimmer, and is as slim as you can go and still maintain the look of one integrated PV. Penny or a slim Ithaka on GGTS will look like "an atty on a battery holder" and will not have the sleek look that a bigger atomizer gives.
I see guys. Then Ithaka stays as it is. I will make some corrections to its look and it will be not only the most functional but the most beautiful atomizer in the world!
I think as well that it should be the same size as the prototype to match the SS GGTS with the classic GG style mouthpiece along with the driptip option.
Yes, thanks a lot Imeo. That's the right. Make the Ithaka same sized like the ody, because I have preorder one more ggts for it 
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I am glad DL that you feel that way.
I have one question for all of you for one more time. I am thinking of making Ithaka thinner. What I was thinking is to let her take almost the same amount of liquid but to make it at 19mm or even thinner. Of course the ceramic housing has to be thinner too. The ceramic housing has to go thinner than Penelope's one but the space for wire inside ceramic will stay the same as Penelope's. Also I have a nice thought to avoid easy overflooding on Ithaka
So what do you think about reducing the width? It will not be a match on GGTS any more
I like the idea of having Ody and Ithaka parts interchangeable. Also being same diameter as GGTS is a plus as I think a large % of people will use them on GGTS. Also JMHO I think Ody is slightly easier to work with then Penelope because of its bigger size.
Not big changes fright. A little longer metal tubes just to make them easy to unscrew and also to fit on Ody too. And not so deep channels around the caps. I also have to think a little about the ceramic housing to make it a little longer maybe and change the way I wrap wires. Maybe I will make the small cap like Ody. Maybe some other small changes that will not really change the look of Ithaka
All I can say is WOW! 
I have watched the entire video twice now Imeo my friend and am still lost for words. There is still no question in my mind as of this moment there is no better rebuildable atomizer in the world than Odysseus and I truly thought it would stay the best. But you have proven me wrong yet again! 
The Ithaka is without a doubt the new king of rebuildable atomizers as well as the most good looking. And the thing that amazes me and struck me while I was watching the video is I understood every change you made and the reasons for it! That is incredible for a guy that has always been better with words than his hands like me!
All I know is that you have again outdone yourself and like many have said, I too think it deserves to be on the best PV, the GGTS! So my vote is to keep the same diameter as the prototype as well. As I have often said it amazes me that we are allowed to be a part of the evolution of such a technological product.
I know for me it is a must have item! When I think of all the knowledge that you keep on that computer between your ears I am even more amazed. A person who cares about his users and friends yet at the same time, thinks like a computer is rare, very rare. I just hope the others here realize what a special thing it is to see all of it as it happens.
After a couple of years witnessing it in action, I can see why some might call guys like me fanatics or fan boys but that doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as I can continue to be a part of it. I still say you are the Henry Ford or Thomas Edison of the e-cig world my friend. I look forward to adding this new piece to my GG collection!
I have watched the entire video twice now Imeo my friend and am still lost for words. There is still no question in my mind as of this moment there is no better rebuildable atomizer in the world than Odysseus and I truly thought it would stay the best. But you have proven me wrong yet again! The Ithaka is without a doubt the new king of rebuildable atomizers as well as the most good looking. And the thing that amazes me and struck me while I was watching the video is I understood every change you made and the reasons for it! That is incredible for a guy that has always been better with words than his hands like me!
All I know is that you have again outdone yourself and like many have said, I too think it deserves to be on the best PV, the GGTS! So my vote is to keep the same diameter as the prototype as well. As I have often said it amazes me that we are allowed to be a part of the evolution of such a technological product.
I know for me it is a must have item! When I think of all the knowledge that you keep on that computer between your ears I am even more amazed. A person who cares about his users and friends yet at the same time, thinks like a computer is rare, very rare. I just hope the others here realize what a special thing it is to see all of it as it happens.
After a couple of years witnessing it in action, I can see why some might call guys like me fanatics or fan boys but that doesn't bother me in the slightest as long as I can continue to be a part of it. I still say you are the Henry Ford or Thomas Edison of the e-cig world my friend. I look forward to adding this new piece to my GG collection!
wow, thanks a lot for your nice words Major. You are the general of the GG forum for sure!
I cant think of something else that we can do for an atomizer. I only need to make it work with mesh too. We have the best PV, the best atomizer and soon the best electronic part. I am very positive about all the upcoming stuff.
I cant think of something else that we can do for an atomizer. I only need to make it work with mesh too. We have the best PV, the best atomizer and soon the best electronic part. I am very positive about all the upcoming stuff.
i finally caught up on this thread, wow it blew up fast!
Imeo, you said it would be better than the oddy and i could not even imagine how , but you did it my friend!
Congratulations!!!! You have outdone yourself once again!!!!
i love the feedback in this thread. there is one theam than has poped up over and over again, a classic GG style mouthpiece instead of or in addition to the ability to add your own drip tip.
i agree with all that think that it should be an available option to have a traditional gg style mouthpiece without adding more length. i have replaced all of my mouthpieces / drip tips on every mod i own with one made by siam mods (available at COV) because it is almost identical to the gg style.
i respect and understand the opinion of those that want the ability to add there own tip, i just dont share the same opinion.
i think the gg style mouthpiece is perfect! i feel i am not alone in my opinion.
i was wondering if you think you could vape right off the part that the drip tip goes into by adding one of those cheap plastic inserts that come with most ecigs.
i dont like this idea , but i feel that strongly about the perfection of the standard gg mouthpiece and length.
+1 vote for standard gg mouthpiece option
Imeo, you said it would be better than the oddy and i could not even imagine how , but you did it my friend!
Congratulations!!!! You have outdone yourself once again!!!!
i love the feedback in this thread. there is one theam than has poped up over and over again, a classic GG style mouthpiece instead of or in addition to the ability to add your own drip tip.
i agree with all that think that it should be an available option to have a traditional gg style mouthpiece without adding more length. i have replaced all of my mouthpieces / drip tips on every mod i own with one made by siam mods (available at COV) because it is almost identical to the gg style.
i respect and understand the opinion of those that want the ability to add there own tip, i just dont share the same opinion.
i think the gg style mouthpiece is perfect! i feel i am not alone in my opinion.
i was wondering if you think you could vape right off the part that the drip tip goes into by adding one of those cheap plastic inserts that come with most ecigs.
i dont like this idea , but i feel that strongly about the perfection of the standard gg mouthpiece and length.
+1 vote for standard gg mouthpiece option
With regard to the mouthpiece, one idea that I believe could satisfy all vapors is to use a GG style mouthpiece, but put a few threads inside the mouthpiece. Then even with a custom GG adapter (smaller diameter end with threads graduating to a larger diameter to accommodate drip tip), one could use a custom drip tip. This method would reduce the inner diameter of the hole some, but would allow the option. I actually prefer the GG style. But I am one that prefers SS tips anyway. My wife prefers her own tips.
Think a GG mouthpiece with a short adapter like kir fanis made for the iatty. Yes, that adapter works on iatty because it doesn't have GG mouthpiece. But a skinnier threaded end would still work as long as there is enough GG mouthpiece to use that for adjusting flow control.
I have read that there are others that prefer this option and wish the Penelope and ody had it. Penelope would not be as easy since Penelope mouthpiece is smaller already. Odysseus has larger mouthpiece. And threads on the inside would hide the fact that threads exists.
I know there must be a way to satisfy both groups: those who prefer GG mouthpiece and those that want custom drip tips.
Think a GG mouthpiece with a short adapter like kir fanis made for the iatty. Yes, that adapter works on iatty because it doesn't have GG mouthpiece. But a skinnier threaded end would still work as long as there is enough GG mouthpiece to use that for adjusting flow control.
I have read that there are others that prefer this option and wish the Penelope and ody had it. Penelope would not be as easy since Penelope mouthpiece is smaller already. Odysseus has larger mouthpiece. And threads on the inside would hide the fact that threads exists.
I know there must be a way to satisfy both groups: those who prefer GG mouthpiece and those that want custom drip tips.
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With regard to the mouthpiece, one idea that I believe could satisfy all vapors is to use a GG style mouthpiece, but put a few threads inside the mouthpiece. Then even with a custom GG adapter (smaller diameter end with threads graduating to a larger diameter to accommodate drip tip), one could use a custom drip tip. This method would reduce the inner diameter of the hole some, but would allow the option. I actually prefer the GG style. But I am one that prefers SS tips anyway. My wife prefers her own tips.
Think a GG mouthpiece with a short adapter like kir fanis made for the iatty. Yes, that adapter works on iatty because it doesn't have GG mouthpiece. But a skinnier threaded end would still work as long as there is enough GG mouthpiece to use that for adjusting flow control.
I have read that there are others that prefer this option and wish the Penelope and ody had it. Penelope would not be as easy since Penelope mouthpiece is smaller already. Odysseus has larger mouthpiece. And threads on the inside would hide the fact that threads exists.
I know there must be a way to satisfy both groups: those who prefer GG mouthpiece and those that want custom drip tips.
I think it is better and easier to make both drip tip option as shown on video and classic GG style mouthpiece.
Buyer can then deicide to buy GG style or new style or both
that way we will have one threaded piece to the mouthpiece, so more probability to get unscrewed while we adjust the mouthpiece yankee. Its not a bad idea but a drip tip is already one weak part while we try to adjust the liquid control. Thats why I put a thinner o-ring under the small cap to avoid drip tip's oring to slide inside mouthpiece
With regard to the mouthpiece, one idea that I believe could satisfy all vapors is to use a GG style mouthpiece, but put a few threads inside the mouthpiece. Then even with a custom GG adapter (smaller diameter end with threads graduating to a larger diameter to accommodate drip tip), one could use a custom drip tip. This method would reduce the inner diameter of the hole some, but would allow the option. I actually prefer the GG style. But I am one that prefers SS tips anyway. My wife prefers her own tips.
Think a GG mouthpiece with a short adapter like kir fanis made for the iatty. Yes, that adapter works on iatty because it doesn't have GG mouthpiece. But a skinnier threaded end would still work as long as there is enough GG mouthpiece to use that for adjusting flow control.
I have read that there are others that prefer this option and wish the Penelope and ody had it. Penelope would not be as easy since Penelope mouthpiece is smaller already. Odysseus has larger mouthpiece. And threads on the inside would hide the fact that threads exists.
I know there must be a way to satisfy both groups: those who prefer GG mouthpiece and those that want custom drip tips.
I'm game in the option for one or both.
That would solve the issues with a better option than just adapter.
Bottom line was to get BOTH options out there for those that want either one. And that would satisfy every vaper.
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That oring I completely understand. I see that many prefer old GG mouthpiece. So my thoughts were either an adapter (which you could not adjust flow control, you'd have to reach lower to mouthpiece to adjust), or as beco mentioned two completely different mouthpieces. When you preorder, you preorder option with GG mouthpiece, drip tip mouthpiece, or one of each.
I'm so so so thrilled Ithaca with stay the size in the video. Whoo hoo. This truly IS a brilliant piece. I can't wait to get my sticky fingers on this. So many things to love about it...air control/universal drip tip / better juice flow option/ easy switch between ggts base and 510 base....shall I go on...brilliant!
Thank you imeo!
Thank you imeo!
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You all might be aware about the OpenSource community in the IT field. Linux was very succesfull exactly because lots if people worldwide participated in the development and inprovment of this product. Without getting any money back for that, just from pure passion and devotion. The collective intelligence proved how great it can be. Linux was able to compete with Microsoft succesfully.
Therefore, we can consider the GG range of products more or less similar with Linux. Passionate people are working to develop an already excellent product. If anyone of us has an idea how to improve this, why should Imeo ignore it? This forum is all about, or am I wrong?
So, if anyone has an idea how to improve these products, bring it here to see it.
The collective collaboration of many contributing to the improvement of Linux is exactly what I wish for GG. combining the best of the best is certainly the way to go.
BUT....someLinux distributions are available at no cost, so you're PART right on spot. It all depends on which distro you refer to.
BUT....someLinux distributions are available at no cost, so you're PART right on spot. It all depends on which distro you refer to.
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