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Ok folks

I just got my first two Ithakas and I'm having flooding issues when it gets warm outside or the mods are in my pocket. I'm assuming it's expansion. I don't use the automatic juice feed system and all seals are good. I'll close the juice flow completely, clear the flood by blowing from the bottom, but as soon as I open the juice control even half a turn, it floods, gurgles and dumps juice on the mod.

Is there somewhere I can look for tips on solving this? I absolutely love these tanks and would hate to side-view them

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Have you adjusted the nut inside of the ceramic??
 

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How much wick are you using

Since I got two of them, I adjusted the nut inside the ceramic one is open and one closed, doesn't make a difference. I'm using 2mm wick with have them trimmed to the orings so they reach the bottom of the juice well. Don't know if it makes a difference, but my current coils are setup in single mode with both wicks running through the coil directly over the nut.

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Ithaka works with 3mm fat wick Dan but some friends use 2mm too. So please change your wick to 3mm and check if the center post is tight against ceramic housing

Dont forget to change the nut inside ceramic with the short one (except the short is already inside)

Congratulations for your Ithakas Dan and welcome to GG world:)
 

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I like to rinse the rebuildable section ceramic, wick and wire assembled with the attached base and the rest of the assembled tank and evaporative chamber in 2 sections). I am far to ocd to mix flavors. Then again owning a few Ithakas or attys will prevent having to rinse. :)

I tryed this today as it was time when I would normally change my coils and I must say it worked GREAT!! This is probably the best flavor I've had from Ithaka. Thanks Idaho
 
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Ithaka works with 3mm fat wick Dan but some friends use 2mm too. So please change your wick to 3mm and check if the center post is tight against ceramic housing

Dont forget to change the nut inside ceramic with the short one (except the short is already inside)

Congratulations for your Ithakas Dan and welcome to GG world:)

I'll give that a shot! Thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for the welcome!

BTW, I've been thinking about delving into micro coils and wonder if anyone has successfully done them in an Ithaka? I wonder if they would wick fast enough?

And if I'm asking questions that have already been answered (I'm sure they have), feel free to point me in the right direction!

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Ok folks

I just got my first two Ithakas and I'm having flooding issues when it gets warm outside or the mods are in my pocket. I'm assuming it's expansion. I don't use the automatic juice feed system and all seals are good. I'll close the juice flow completely, clear the flood by blowing from the bottom, but as soon as I open the juice control even half a turn, it floods, gurgles and dumps juice on the mod.

Is there somewhere I can look for tips on solving this? I absolutely love these tanks and would hate to side-view them

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Here is one optional reson:
When you open the juice control make sure the small top cap stay close!!
Some times if you did not lubricate the o ring on it it,may turn
and let air slit in.
When this happen the vacum that holds the juice is canceld.
In such a case when your using 2mm wick that not fill total the canal the liquid
( when the tank is full)is higher in hight the the rebuldble part, there for juice may flow
via the canal and exit via the center hole of the central post.
Make sure thos top caps and top tank parts stay close when you open the juice control.
The best is to put some e juice on o ring of this cap.
If you use thin liquids maybe better to use 3 mm wick.

It may be that yours leak becose of diffrent reson so,take time and check on any advice given hear,
Until you will find what cosing this to you,as Ithaka not leak when all is right.
 

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Here is one optional reson:
When you open the juice control make sure the small top cap stay close!!
Some times if you did not lubricate the o ring on it it,may turn
and let air slit in.
When this happen the vacum that holds the juice is canceld.
In such a case when your using 2mm wick that not fill total the canal the liquid
( when the tank is full)is higher in hight the the rebuldble part, there for juice may flow
via the canal and exit via the center hole of the central post.
Make sure thos top caps and top tank parts stay close when you open the juice control.
The best is to put some e juice on o ring of this cap.
If you use thin liquids maybe better to use 3 mm wick.

It may be that yours leak becose of diffrent reson so,take time and check on any advice given hear,
Until you will find what cosing this to you,as Ithaka not leak when all is right.


I think you hit the nail on the head with this and possibly that I'm using 2mm silica with thinner juices. I took a closer look at the 0-rings under the top cap and it looks like they are a little torn up. I purchased both of these used from the classifieds, so no extra o-rings. So my question is this...without going straight to Clouds of Vapor (out of stock anyways), or StormysVaporCellor, is there a kit I can purchase (say Lows or Home Depot) that would have compatible o-rings?
 
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Dan, check your PMs for info on o-rings if you still need some.


Speaking of o-rings, Imeo, are you going to compile a list of o-rings for JGG?

Edit: I just saw they are already posted on the o-rings thread. :facepalm:

PM checked!

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Hoping people had a few thoughts.

Been using 2 pieces of 2mm wick, and one 1.5 ohm coil on my ithaka. I have even been putting a piece of 30 gauge wire on the side of one wick when wrapping coils to make sure its not to tight. Works great, but I have been noticing lately regardless of juice it doesn't seem to keep wicking, I have to open the juice control a few more turns to get juice to the coil. Each coil should be about 2 to 4 weeks old, only several tanks through each run.

I have noticed this on my ody before as well. There I use 1 piece of 3.5 mm wick at the coil, and cut 3 strands on each side at the channel.

Not really sure why, never had this issue in the past, but now happening with each ithaka over the past few fills. I DIY juice, all at 70 pg and 30 vg, 18 mg nic. Happens with juices that have artificial flavor and with my home brewed tobacco extracts.

Recently I closed the basic feeder, but this was happening before I did this. Actually it was another cahnge that happened out of nowhere. In the past I could fill without it overwicking, and then recently for whatever reason when I would fill after cleaning the ithaka it would overwick.

Since yesteday everyone now and then I will even close the juice control and take off the top cap to let out pressure, figured try this since I saw someone suggest this a few posts up for someones ithaka that was overwicking/flooding. Tonight I even made sure the top cap was just snug and not to tight.

The ithaka is working great, just wanting to see if I am overlooking anything. In the past I could open the juice control 2-3 half turns leave open without any issue really and just vape away. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
 

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Long. MY first move would be to use a straight pin or straightened out paperclip to try and see if it improves. I would think a 30g may be small for what you're intending to do.
The 2mm wicks great for me. I use dual, double at coil, around a straightened paper clip, a wrapped snug. Then when I remove the clip it seems to settle perfectly. Final ohm checks in around .8 on ithaka.
It's not the large clip. Think small, needle size. The larger seem to leave room for hot spots rather than wicking issues. It sounds like it may be choking

Last thing. For me, 3mm will choke more, but it seems to work for some and some will recommend it.
 

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Thanks Yankee. Thats the odd thing, the 30 gauge wire seems to leave good space just lightly on coil, where as when I used an actual sewing needle, which was pretty small, it seemed to leave to much space around the coil, and the coil wasn't round kina kinked at the needle, which led me back to the 30 gauge wire.

It doesn't look like the coil itself is cutting off juice, but I have worried about where the wire comes across the wick and down the channels if this has cut off wicking at times. Just not sure why it wouldn't do this on first fill and shows up later.

Thanks again, will take a look for smaller needles or paperclips this weekend and give it a try. Also debating on whether to cut a single strand from the 2 mm at the channel. Hate to mess with things since they had worked well for me, just kinda stumped why it showed up.

Long. MY first move would be to use a straight pin or straightened out paperclip to try and see if it improves. I would think a 30g may be small for what you're intending to do.
The 2mm wicks great for me. I use dual, double at coil, around a straightened paper clip, a wrapped snug. Then when I remove the clip it seems to settle perfectly. Final ohm checks in around .8 on ithaka.
It's not the large clip. Think small, needle size. The larger seem to leave room for hot spots rather than wicking issues. It sounds like it may be choking

Last thing. For me, 3mm will choke more, but it seems to work for some and some will recommend it.
 

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I'd be afraid of flooding if any more was cut in the channels. Maybe loosen the wrap with the 30g in place? But seems you've covered that approach of different "spacers".
Is this silica? Try a retorch? If it's cotton, try a reboil. Certainly a different problem for sure.
Curious. Have you done duals and come up with similar issues? If you ever vape duals anyway.
This is almost sounding like "Penelope Syndrome". Vape, close and open, vape.
 

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That would be a sad syndrome to get indeed :( I had read you post on that, either earlier in this thread or in another. This happens on occassion with my ody, haven't noticed it with penelope but haven't used that as much.

Never tried dual coils myself. Found 1.5 ohm single worked good for me and just kinda stuck there. Might be somethign to play with one weekend though.

Not sure what you mean by "losen the wrap with the 30 gauge in place" Ooooo I think I get what you mean. Take apart and losen the positive/negative connection to give a little more breathing room where it goes down the channels. Think I would need a rebuild, not sure how I could get the connections tight again since they wires already trimed there.

And when you say retorch, do you take the coil out first? Figured I should ask before I take a torch to my attached coil and melt something, haha.

I'd be afraid of flooding if any more was cut in the channels. Maybe loosen the wrap with the 30g in place? But seems you've covered that approach of different "spacers".
Is this silica? Try a retorch? If it's cotton, try a reboil. Certainly a different problem for sure.
Curious. Have you done duals and come up with similar issues? If you ever vape duals anyway.
This is almost sounding like "Penelope Syndrome". Vape, close and open, vape.
 
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Loosening the wrap meaning not as snug. A little looser. And when I say retorch or reboil, I meant before even assembly.
Sometimes when I torch my silica I torch a whole bag at once. If I don't use it for a while it seems it wicks differently. When I boil up the cotton yarn, and let a bunch sit for a couple weeks, same thing. Seems I need to boil it again for a few minutes.
It's a puzzling one for sure. It can be annoying. It would certainly be interesting to see results of a few tests. My use of a paperclip works best with the cotton as it will swell with juice. Silica may leave quite the gap.
 

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Thanks again yankee, that is a good idea you mentioned removing the 30 gauge wire used for spacing after I install the coil.

Hmm, didn't think of that either. Usually I cut up a bunch of wicks, boil and let dry then store for use. Before using I torch, but they may have sat for several weeks or a month plus after boiling, though I torch prior to use maybe they need boiled again.

Looks like I may have to tweak my routine, maybe just boil up a couple wicks before use rather than having some sit.

Really hate to take apart the builds since otherwise they are good and still pretty recent, but maybe I'll start with one and see how it works.

Thanks again for all the help.

Loosening the wrap meaning not as snug. A little looser. And when I say retorch or reboil, I meant before even assembly.
Sometimes when I torch my silica I torch a whole bag at once. If I don't use it for a while it seems it wicks differently. When I boil up the cotton yarn, and let a bunch sit for a couple weeks, same thing. Seems I need to boil it again for a few minutes.
It's a puzzling one for sure. It can be annoying. It would certainly be interesting to see results of a few tests. My use of a paperclip works best with the cotton as it will swell with juice. Silica may leave quite the gap.
 
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