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[Sfera72]

First, I really dont't understand the discussion about brass and juice. Brass is a product, that everybody has in his sanitary installation. All valves are made in brass and it's no problem in combination with stainless steel. There are no health problems with brass.

Second, the four holes at the collectors tank should made not in a line. I think, that the air controll will work better if the holes made diagonally.

 

[Aal_]

Second, the four holes at the collectors tank should made not in a line. I think, that the air controll will work better if the holes made diagonally.

They work perfectly even without holes but with slots. Ask every GGTS user here. If you make them vertical you would need a thick ring to cover them and that would increase the height considerably, since you need space for the ring when they are fully open and fully closed.

 

[erich]

Not necessarily. As was stated above, the current will follow the path of least resistance. Considering the ODY/Penny set ups can run even when poorly done, shows this (as compared with those crappy gennies). The more I tinker with various atomizers, the more I'm convinced that the GG atomizer line is dummy-proof and VERY efficient (current-wise).

Look at the genny coils where all the R wires are touching--they work.

Right. My crude drawing there being an example. It started out on one path, then jumped to the other because its latter half was that of least resistance.

This applies when dual coils don't touch as well. One will lie dormant, the other carrying everything because it's total res is less. Maybe i'm wrong, but i wouldvthink that they'd have to br damn close to get the second to fire at all...

 

[Poppa D]

As long as their grounded there shouldn't be any problem. Since the both coils have wick in them its unlikely the coils will make contact.

 

[Aal_]

I don't get it. So now we're saying coils touching is ok? what about the wraps of a single coil?

 

[Rajuisha]

A brass drip tip would look nice with brass parts on a mod....

SOMO
I thought I fed you to the sharks

 

[justinred]

Ithaka with dual coil using two prebuilt 1.5ohms wires as demoed by Imeo effectively halves the resistance so atty resistance is .75 ohms at 3.7 volts = 18 watts.

Since I build my own wires by joining NR and R wires, I think 34awg R wires would be better than thicker wires in getting my sweet spot 1.3ohm/10watts vape.

Just thinking aloud here, correct me if am wrong.

 

[Rajuisha]

thanks raj.
Ithaka cant have brass on her because its an atomizer and brass cant come in touch with liquid, except we talk for very small areas

Thanks for the advice Imeo. I didn't know that. Maybe you can start gold plating your devices like another member has said.

 

[Aal_]

Ithaka with dual coil using two prebuilt 1.5ohms wires as demoed by Imeo effectively halves the resistance so atty resistance is .75 ohms at 3.7 volts = 18 watts.

Since I build my own wires by joining NR and R wires, I think 34awg R wires would be better than thicker wires in getting my sweet spot 1.3ohm/10watts vape.

Just thinking aloud here, correct me if am wrong.

With duals you would want more since an overall of 10 watts means each coil will get 5 watts. Theoretically you will feel the same heat of a single coil with 10 watts. The difference is a larger area of vaporization which means more vapor. But I suggest with duals to go higher, maybe make 2 2ohm coils for a 1ohm atomizer and 13.69 watts. Then you will start feeling the benefit of dual coils. For me i prefer my duals to perform as 2 singles which means each getting 10 watts for a total of 20 watts

 

[justinred]

With duals you would want more since an overall of 10 watts means each coil will get 5 watts. Theoretically you will feel the same heat of a single coil with 10 watts. The difference is a larger area of vaporization which means more vapor. But I suggest with duals to go higher, maybe make 2 2ohm coils for a 1ohm atomizer and 13.69 watts. Then you will start feeling the benefit of dual coils. For me i prefer my duals to perform as 2 singles which means each getting 10 watts for a total of 20 watts

Ahhh. I have been building dual coils on a single 3mm double up on top wick on the oddy the past week in preparation for the Ithaka and it burns my juice at 18watts. Ithaka should be different with the heat distributed over two wicks.

 

[Aal_]

Ahhh. I have been building dual coils on a single 3mm double up on top wick on the oddy the past week in preparation for the Ithaka and it burns my juice at 18watts. Ithaka should be different with the heat distributed over two wicks.

burning juice means you don't have enough feed. With GG you can go to stellar watts without burning your juice. you should try to master feeding better. Air control plays a big role in feeding and not only juice control.

EDIT: I run my Ody at 0.8 ohms duals with boba's bounty 100% vg

 

[justinred]

burning juice means you don't have enough feed. With GG you can go to stellar watts without burning your juice. you should try to master feeding better. Air control plays a big role in feeding and not only juice control.

EDIT: I run my Ody at 0.8 ohms duals with boba's bounty 100% vg

Probably more like toasted wick and not burning juice. Wicking is not a problem since it tastes good on first couple of days, it just tastes burnt after a while. And also too hot for me, my tip is burning my lips after a few straight long drags. lol.

 

[sahilm]

Dear all hope everyone here is well .
I missed out on the pre-orders of the Ithaka and would really like to get one . I dont know how i overlooked and never used a GG product in now my nearly 3 years of vaping . I guess its bad Karma and my bad luck .
Seeing Imeo Sir woking with such dedication and precision has to be worth every good vape a person gets off the devices made my him , I feel like crap and also like kicking myself for never trying a Oddy or a Penelope .
How can i Get a Ithaka now , i Live in New Delhi , India , but do have a postal address in USA .
I am already on the notification list of " Mr Bruce at clouds of vapor " .

All help appreciated & Happy vaping .
warm regards
Sahil .

 

[justinred]

Dear all hope everyone here is well .
I missed out on the pre-orders of the Ithaka and would really like to get one . I dont know how i overlooked and never used a GG product in now my nearly 3 years of vaping . I guess its bad Karma and my bad luck .
Seeing Imeo Sir woking with such dedication and precision has to be worth every good vape a person gets off the devices made my him , I feel like crap and also like kicking myself for never trying a Oddy or a Penelope .
How can i Get a Ithaka now , i Live in New Delhi , India , but do have a postal address in USA .
I am already on the notification list of " Mr Bruce at clouds of vapor " .

All help appreciated & Happy vaping .
warm regards
Sahil .

Email Vassilis at Electronic Cigarettes. He will surely help and he can ship it directly to you.

 

[ChrisEU]

First, I really dont't understand the discussion about brass and juice. Brass is a product, that everybody has in his sanitary installation. All valves are made in brass and it's no problem in combination with stainless steel. There are no health problems with brass.
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This has been discussed ad nauseum. Here is the short version:

1) water has different chemical properties than liquid
2) water is usually basic to neutral while liquid can be anything. Brass + acid = problem
3) there are many different types of brass with different properties. Some could be used for our purposes, others not

Copper salts that can build up on brass ("Grünspan" in German) can be harmless to problematic, depending on what other materials are around.

So we can not say "Brass is poisonous" and we can not say "Brass is safe". It depends on a lot of variables and they can not all be controlled at production time. So, apart from pieces that are hidden and safe inside mods without contact to liquid, it is far safer for a manufacturer to avoid brass where he can.

And before you start on musical instruments: Yes, some mouthpieces are still made out of brass, and they DO cause problems. That is one of the reasons why many musicians use silver (edit: or at least silver plated) mouthpieces.

If it is just for the looks, go ahead and gold plate the steel pieces - it looks better than brass, too.

 

[imeothanasis]

If coils of a wire comes in touch, that doesnt mean that wire will get burned aal. But its resistance will get lower of course. If it gets a lot lower than the apropriate then yes it will get burned.
If for example a 4 loops coil (around the wick) is made in a way that 2 of the loops come on touch, then the resistance will get lower. That doesnt mean that it will get burned. But if 3 loops come in touch, then the resistance will come a lot lower than what the wire can handle, so it will get burned

I don't get it. So now we're saying coils touching is ok? what about the wraps of a single coil?

 

[BlackBag]

I have a question about the ceramics in pene, oddy, iatty, ith & ect. I cracked my ceramics in both my pene and my oddy but installed the wick/coils anyway. They seem to vape just fine. Questiion: Is there any problem with using a cracked ceramic?

BB

 

[RiverNut]

If it still functions then using a cracked ceramic is fine.

 

[erich]

As long as their grounded there shouldn't be any problem. Since the both coils have wick in them its unlikely the coils will make contact.

I don't follow this at all. Coils around wicks lying atop one another will absolutely make contact...

 

[Aal_]

Imeo what about 2 separate coils. Why it doesn't matter then?