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[yankeebobo]

I think this is the perfect example of how various people have experienced this issue.

I have experienced this gurgle issue. One one of my ithaka, I have a gurgle. On the other only occasionally. I have seen gurgle and leaks on my wife's. this is mainly after a refill. She also stumbled unto something. The gurgle seems to be greatly reduced, or even eliminated, if the AC ring is closed mostly - tightening the draw.

This is not a build issue. This has nothing to do with experience in building or lack thereof. There is some combination that is causing this. Period.

Oh and what's really odd? In my case it never gurgled or flooded. Just one day it started. So to those having no issues, I hope it remains that way for you.

 

[imeothanasis]

I dont know why you have leakage black. Ithaka doesnt leak at all. If you follow my videos, nothing like this will happen. The only way to gurgle a little is if you refill and you have BF totally open. Just close it or keep it half open. Feeding only one wick is the most of the times enough. And if you want a little more feeding, you can open you mouthpiece a little

Imeo,

Does this take care of the leaking- weeping some of us are experiencing or am I still doing something wrong? It's not huge since I started twisting upper cap upside down but still have some leakage into TS collection tank when I refill.

Thanks my friend,

Chris

 

[imeothanasis]

I know that this issue occurs to only some people and in some of the times glaus. But I have to not leave them unsatisfied. I want to give them exactly what they want

I dunno what people are talking about when they say Ithaca gurgles. It is my experience that this only happens with user error.I have two Ithacas and have used them since they first shipped out. Never once a gurgle! I even fill all the way to the top of the smaller cap and still no gurgle. Imeo it is my opinion that there is no need to make smaller center post nuts, the ones you designed work flawlessly. It wouldnt be fair to you to take on the cost when there is no problem to begin with.

I feel like if there was a problem everyone would have it, considering only a few do I think you can chalk it up to user error in there cases.

 

[imeothanasis]

People that use thin liquids must keep BF closed Ariel. I use thick juices and I keep BF half open and I never had an issue.
Ithaka is made in a way to let people choose their settings. If you choose the wrong setting then it will not behave as you like

Today my Ithaka was leaking like crazy exactly through the center post, mouthpiece was closed, BF opened and center post top nut in open position. I emptied the tank and take out the mouthpiece, left the tank only with the engraved ring, then started filling it until liquid was just slightly below the ceramic cup to channels to see what was causing the leaking.

The liquid was flooding the ceramic cup through the center post top nut, since it was in open position.

Solution: just configured the center post top nut in closed position.

I think that kind of flooding happens when using thin juices, my mix was 70%PG 30%VG, so liquid was flowing easily, filling the small chamber and then coming up through the center post top nut slots.

 

[imeothanasis]

Exactly as you said Yankee. Its a matter of settings. I wrote my post before read yours and things are like this. Most people are used to simple atomizers that work or dont work. Ithaka give us the ability for adjustments and we have to find ours.

I think this is the perfect example of how various people have experienced this issue.

I have experienced this gurgle issue. One one of my ithaka, I have a gurgle. On the other only occasionally. I have seen gurgle and leaks on my wife's. this is mainly after a refill. She also stumbled unto something. The gurgle seems to be greatly reduced, or even eliminated, if the AC ring is closed mostly - tightening the draw.

This is not a build issue. This has nothing to do with experience in building or lack thereof. There is some combination that is causing this. Period.

Oh and what's really odd? In my case it never gurgled or flooded. Just one day it started. So to those having no issues, I hope it remains that way for you.

 

[pl_svn]

The only way to gurgle a little is if you refill and you have BF totally open. Just close it or keep it half open. Feeding only one wick is the most of the times enough. And if you want a little more feeding, you can open you mouthpiece a little

exactly what happens here: on my first build I left BF open on both wicks and had a little gurgling. afterwards I set BF to one wick only and gurgling went away. and I (almost) never need to open juice control

 

[imeothanasis]

Today's setup:

I made a single coil around 2 wicks, 2mm each (2 strands removed from a 3mm wick). Worked very good. Aal, thats a very nice set up by the way

Then I tried 2 wicks, 1,5mm each (3 strands removed from a 3mm wick). Worked even better because more loops were around the wick.

 

[imeothanasis]

You just found the right setup for your juice pl. Thats what I am talking about. You find your setup and thats it

exactly what happens here: on my first build I left BF open on both wicks and had a little gurgling. afterwards I set BF to one wick only and gurgling went away. and I (almost) never need to open juice control

 

[Roadrunner]

to coil the silica wick? is it a must to have both the non resistance wire and resistance wire to work?
or i could just use the 32A kanthal wire to wrap the silica wicks?

 

[Twitteliedoe]

to coil the silica wick? is it a must to have both the non resistance wire and resistance wire to work?
or i could just use the 32A kanthal wire to wrap the silica wicks?

If you use 32a only, you probably have very high resistance. To get by, until you bought some nr wire, you can double up your wire where the nr normally would sit, the channels.

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[Aal_]

Today's setup:

I made a single coil around 2 wicks, 2mm each (2 strands removed from a 3mm wick). Worked very good. Aal, thats a very nice set up by the way

Then I tried 2 wicks, 1,5mm each (3 strands removed from a 3mm wick). Worked even better because more loops were around the wick.

Imeo I couldn't do it without flooding. Are your wicks relaxed or pulled tightly. I think mine were pulled a lot which makes the opening of the channels big and causes flooding.

 

[imeothanasis]

I did it without any overflooding at all aal but with the short center post top nut. I am at the end of the tank right now. I think that the long center post top nut don't allow us to work as we like on Ithaca. I have to make those small upper nuts.

 

[Ariel_MX]

I did it without any overflooding at all aal but with the short center post top nut. I am at the end of the tank right now. I think that the long center post top nut don't allow us to work as we like on Ithaca. I have to make those small upper nuts.

Maybe it is not necessary to make shorter center post top nuts, if wick is too fat or too close to the center post top nut, some liquid could drain inside, producing that small gurgling, so maybe by pulling up a little the wick / coil assembly after initial configuration could solve the gurgling issue.

Also gugling could be due the center post top nut is in open position, don't you think so? By vaping, some of the liquid that is inside the small collector tank will try to come up through the center post top nut / ceramic slots, producing that small gurgling.

The leaking issue I had yesterday was because thin liquid and center post top nut in open position, leaking only started when trying to vape, because I was suctioning air but also liquid from the small collector chamber, flooding the ceramic cup and then liquid started to leak through the center post. It wasn't due the BF was opened for what I saw and experimented.

 

[imeothanasis]

After many experiments I understand that we dont need a shorter upper center post nut guys.

The gurgling that sometimes occurs and to only some people, is a result of burned liquid as Ali said. While the liquid gets burned, very tiny drops of liquid goes all over the ceramic and 1 of them goes inside center post. Its not an overflooding, its just a tiny drop of liquid that can be removed easily by bumping Ithaca as I did on my video.

Aal, I had the same effect with 1,5mm wick at the end of tank. Channels of Ithaca require at least 2 mm of wick as we all know. I was just trying to make more coils. I saw a difference in the begining but finally the vape was the same. Maybe it was just me and not Ithaca.

 

[imeothanasis]

Maybe you are right Ariel. To speak the truth, I never saw this as a problem and maybe we try to find a solution to a problem that doesnt exist as glaus said. But lets talk further about this, its not bad as I see it.
By the way, its not a gurgling, its more like a noise.

Maybe it is not necessary to make shorter center post top nuts, if wick is too fat or too close to the center post top nut, some liquid could drain inside, producing that small gurgling, so maybe by pulling up a little the wick / coil assembly after initial configuration could solve the gurgling issue.

 

[Ariel_MX]

Maybe you are right Ariel. To speak the truth, I never saw this as a problem and maybe we try to find a solution to a problem that doesnt exist as glaus said. But lets talk further about this, its not bad as I see it.
By the way, its not a gurgling, its more like a noise.

Is because it is not a problem at all, it is a feature , a configuration option, Ithaka can be configured to suit the needs of each one, you can choose to open the basic feeding when using thick juices and install center's post top nut in open position, you can leave the BF opened in both ceramic channels and close the center's post top nut.

You can configure the center's post top nut in closed position and leave one of the 4 wicks shorter than the BF, then configure BF in open position in that specific ceramic slot, so liquid will have free access to the lower little chamber, providing a little more liquid capacity.

Etc. etc.

It is only a matter of understanding how Ithala works and all its possibilities, after that, one can choose how to configure it, taking into account all the variables (thin liquid, thick liquid, resistance, wick sizes, etc).

 

[t man]

I too experienced the gurgling sensation with Ithaka. I tried making different configurations in my coils, different wick diameters, lifting my coils and still experienced this gurgling. After seeing Imeo's post about switching Ithaka's center post top nut with Ody's I thought I would give it a try. It has been 2 days and absolutely no gurgling. This worked perfect for me. I now love Ithaka more than ever!!

 

[dmall]

Imeo, I have been working on Ithaka to find out why I had that burnt taste. I took it apart and cleaned and inspected each part and although I don't think this has anything to do with the burnt taste, I discovered that my center post is crooked. So I guess I need a new center post.

 

[imeothanasis]

no problem dmall, tell me your seller and I will send him a free center post for you

 

[dmall]

no problem dmall, tell me your seller and I will send him a free center post for you

clouds of vapor and thanks Imeo. I really appreciate it and I appreciate all of your hard work and the way you help everyone. Your workmanship is incredible.