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So I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this squonking thing. I think I was being too enthusiastic on my bottle squeeze and flooding the atomizer half the time. Was getting mad gurgles and very little vapor for the first few pulls, then slowly getting better as I burned off the excess. I've been trying just a gentle little squeeze, been doing better but once in a while getting that nasty "whoops, no juice!" burnt hit from going TOO easy. I'm determined to get the hang of this, because when I have it right, it's an amazing vape. I can feel the wood getting a little dry already, though. I've got the Bubinga 13, natural oil finish I believe? Is it the Howard's Feed-N-Wax I should be using on this?
 

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So I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this squonking thing. I think I was being too enthusiastic on my bottle squeeze and flooding the atomizer half the time. Was getting mad gurgles and very little vapor for the first few pulls, then slowly getting better as I burned off the excess. I've been trying just a gentle little squeeze, been doing better but once in a while getting that nasty "whoops, no juice!" burnt hit from going TOO easy. I'm determined to get the hang of this, because when I have it right, it's an amazing vape. I can feel the wood getting a little dry already, though. I've got the Bubinga 13, natural oil finish I believe? Is it the Howard's Feed-N-Wax I should be using on this?

I've been using Vaseline. No one's yet given me a good reason why it's not a good idea:). If it works better for fishing ships with wooden masts in the north Atlantic than any acrylic, I figure it's tough enough for my little woodvils:). It fully saturates in about 24 hours and leaves your mod buttery smooth with a satin sheen.
 

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I think anything that protects our precious Woodys is good. I am using the SunShield Karen suggests because it has UV protection. My natural oil finish Woody is cocobolo and I like it's reddish orange color. Someone on one of these threads posted pics of their cocobolo when they bought it and then a year or two later and the color darkened a lot. I, personally, like the reddish/orange color and will do whatever it takes to protect the color.

So if Karen says SunShield, then SunShield it is!!
 

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I think anything that protects our precious Woodys is good. I am using the SunShield Karen suggests because it has UV protection. My natural oil finish Woody is cocobolo and I like it's reddish orange color. Someone on one of these threads posted pics of their cocobolo when they bought it and then a year or two later and the color darkened a lot. I, personally, like the reddish/orange color and will do whatever it takes to protect the color.

So if Karen says SunShield, then SunShield it is!!


 

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Thanx Tim!! That's the one I was referring to. I'm going to try to keep mine looking like this. (with the great help from Karen of course)

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Well... I may be wrong here, but my understanding is that the darkening is caused by the finish itself. Anyone seen super old tape? It's yellow? And if you keep poly for a while it yellows too? It's the acrylic that's yellowing/darkening, not the wood. Or something you crazy glued a VERY VERY long time ago? Or if you have something that was once clear plastic that you've kept around for 20-30 years?

Tung oil yellows, real or tung finish, I have an OLD bottle of Formby's that's almost hardened... and the contents are orange/yellow/brown inside. It started out clear. No amount of UV protection is going to protect from the chemical changes of the finish material internally. I mean darkening of wood isn't taking place only on the surface of the wood. UV isn't penetrating beyond the surface.

Good example are old guitars or violins... even if kept in cases, you ever hear of one that didn't yellow over decades? It's the finish doing the yellowing, and adding more finish isn't going to prevent it. Um... petroleum jelly doesn't yellow:p.

Further, petroleum jelly IS a sunscreen. Go look up wiki for petroleum jelly. Here's a direct government test from the NIH for petroleum jelly vs sunscreen efficacy: Skin penetration and sun protection factor of ultr... [Pharm Res. 1996] - PubMed - NCBI

Wiki seems to like the idea that Porsche recommends it for lubing parts, it's all over the wiki.

But... if you put vaseline on your wood, it will start dissolving whatever yellowing finish was in there. I have no clue what it does long term, but 'mineral spirits' is basically liquid petroleum jelly, and is contained in all wood finishes I know of except the pure oils like tung and linseed (both of which yellow, aka darkens, wood).

I've actually never seen any finished wood under any conditions NOT darken after a year or so.... I mean even logs laying on the ground face down, break em open and they are lighter inside than the part laying on the ground, or partly buried, exposed to no UV...
 

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Gosh, sounds like I'm trying to sell vaseline or something.. LOLOL!

I have here a jar of wood pipe finish (a blend of carnauba wax, paraffin, and proprietary ingredients), and it works worse than the vaseline. I got it because I wanted to restore my grandfather's pipe, which had gotten a bit moldy and nasty because my mom kept it in a garage, so I looked for THE BEST pipe repair guys in the US, and bought all their products... specifically, Walker Briar Works, these guys: Walker Briar Works

Note that I bought this stuff years ago, and it DID make the pipe much nicer. When I went on my vaseline on wood kick, I smeared vaseline all over the pipe, and wow... even better (then I put their wax finish on top). Actually, last week, I smeared vaseline all over a vintage solid carved burl end table I had that was all dried out too, and WHOA... it completely restored the finish. I need to coat it again, the dry wood cells just slurped up the vaseline.

Like I said, if it's good enough to protect MASTS on ships in the frozen arctic through storms, surging seas, salt spray, salt air, acid rain, without snapping or rotting, in conditions that no acrylic can withstand, I'd say it was a good recommendation. That it costs pennies instead of $50 for a little bottle (I know that's not what you guys are getting, but prices for finishes can get downright silly).

Wooden boat forum re: Vaseline: http://forum.woodenboat.com/archive/index.php/t-2877.html
 

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This about the only thing I understood "horny layer concentrations were measured after stripping"

Just saying.

LOL! It just says that Vaseline is also a UV protector and what they use as 'base' to compare and rate all other UV protection chemicals from:p. I am reasonably certain that 2% means 20 SPF (not positive).
 

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ROTFLMAO, you all crack me up. So I did end up sanding the poly off my Zebra and I LOVE it!!! Put some Howard's on her and OMG. I really do like the feel of natural wood better. I also saw this and figured I would see what happens. I probably won't use it on the woody but maybe my metal grand. Anyone see this thing before?

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