VG is quite sweet by itself, so the higher the (undiluted) VG content the more it can impart a sweet flavor.
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VG is quite sweet by itself, so the higher the (undiluted) VG content the more it can impart a sweet flavor.
I made the order from madvapes......... finally 
I'm hoping I'll receive everything by the middle of next week, any later than that and I'll be on my own for a couple weeks if I need help or something goes wrong. Big move coming up and no internet for a while.
I'm hoping I'll receive everything by the middle of next week, any later than that and I'll be on my own for a couple weeks if I need help or something goes wrong. Big move coming up and no internet for a while.
Yeah, madvapes have excellent service when it comes to the speed of shipping. (And pretty well everything else, really.) I don't think you need to worry about getting it in time.
Mindfield mentioned it I have to highlight it. You are going to have to stack those batteries to use them in a maxi roughstack. You will not be vapng at 3.7 volts. You will be vaping at 7.4 volts. Also you won't be able to use it while the batteries are on the charger. Voltage isn't like some things, if a little is good a lot is better. To vape at 7.4 volts requires specialized atomizers etc. That's really something for an experienced vaper that's really into heat and is willing to put up with frying atomizers to get it. If you put dual coils on there in that configuration, if you don't burn the DC, you'll certainly burn your tongue. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT LOW RESISTANCE AT 7.4 VOLTS!!!
To put this in perspective, a typical atomizer is around 2.8 ohms. At 3.7 volts that uses 4.89 watts. The equivalent at 7.4 volts is to use a 11 ohm atomizer. I'm not sure even Avidvapor or Ikenvape have something like that.
I feel a little responsibility here. I'm the one that pointed you to the Roughstack but, I also said to get 18650 batteries for it. I'm very surprised Madvapes is selling that kit like that. Those batteries are appropriate for the regular roughstack not the maxi. I'm pretty sure it's a misprint but, I will be posting in the Madvapes forum about it.
I strongly suggest you contact Madvapes and see if you can get some 18650s instead. They are a good vendor and they will work with you.
To put this in perspective, a typical atomizer is around 2.8 ohms. At 3.7 volts that uses 4.89 watts. The equivalent at 7.4 volts is to use a 11 ohm atomizer. I'm not sure even Avidvapor or Ikenvape have something like that.
I feel a little responsibility here. I'm the one that pointed you to the Roughstack but, I also said to get 18650 batteries for it. I'm very surprised Madvapes is selling that kit like that. Those batteries are appropriate for the regular roughstack not the maxi. I'm pretty sure it's a misprint but, I will be posting in the Madvapes forum about it.
I strongly suggest you contact Madvapes and see if you can get some 18650s instead. They are a good vendor and they will work with you.
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Not to worry, I ended up not getting the kit and going with the stand alone maxi roughstack instead. Six or more volts sounded too high to start with anyway. BTW the reason I took on the suggestion to get the Roughstack is because it looks versatile. By what I'm reading it can go 3.7v, 5v, or 7.4v. Also its length can be shortened by getting the bottem tube and using a single 16340 battery.
I ended up deciding to go with these batteries....
TrustFire Protected 18650 Battery, 2400 mah
Protected 18650 Battery, 3000 mah
I'll use the 3000 mah battery as my primary, and the 2400 mah as a backup, or while the other one is charging.
I also went with cartomizers between 1.6 and 2 ohms for good 3.7v vaping.
You had me scared there for a second when I saw that PM, phew. Thanks for the tip on the Maxi Roughstack BTW, it looks like it's gonna be sweeeet!
Well I just envisioned you getting that 6 volt roughstack and plugging in a 1.6 ohm dual coil and starting a fire. I do think that on the site that there should be more of a notice that the kit is high voltage. I started a thread in the madvapes forum about it.
I agree with you, If it wasn't for me reading all these post and getting help from ECF I could have very easily gotten incompatible parts at madvapes. I also don't think that most of these products are coming with instructions or manuals. I could be wrong but the kits I looked at didn't say they included them.
The combination of poor descriptions and lack of instuction manuals made my first purchase more difficult, but It's the only complaint I have about Madvapes so far. That, and their Ejuice selection could be expanded.
Mike
The combination of poor descriptions and lack of instuction manuals made my first purchase more difficult, but It's the only complaint I have about Madvapes so far. That, and their Ejuice selection could be expanded.
Mike
To be fair though, Mike, you're going with a more advanced model. You're not getting a 'starter kit' so to speak. I started with an eGo-T, and it came with a manual. Hell, my first pv was a disposable-rechargable (Don't ask, I don't understand it either) that came with instructions and 2 cartos for 15 USD from a local gas station.
I got myself an Alpha from AltSmoke just recently, and they sent me a print-out sort of instruction thing for maintenance and all of that jazz.
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I got myself an Alpha from AltSmoke just recently, and they sent me a print-out sort of instruction thing for maintenance and all of that jazz.
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Yes, but people are always recommening to a newbie to go straight to a mod and skip all the starter kits. The thing about doing that is that there aren't a lot of instructions or tips to do that like there are with basic starter kits.
I like Mad Vapes but they could have a bit more in the way of instructions with their kit. If you're going to sell something spell out exactly what comes with it and what you need to use it. I recently bought a kit from MV that didn't have a wall charger. LF states it in the decription exactly what's included and what's not so you can buy everything you're going to need to start vaping.
I can respect that, but I'm of the belief that switching should be a moderately easy learning curve. Starter kit is very basic, plug it in, stick it together, done.
Mods, you have to learn about proper care for batteries, then find out what voltage you want, then figure out if you want cartos, attys, tanks...or if you want a dual coil or triple coil or... blah blah.
While I can accept that some people like to skip the beginner step, there is still the part of recommending it to friends. Lets say that Billybob asks Mr-Skipped-The-Beginning about his ecig, and one question that -always- comes up is "How much did that cost you?" and his answer is... 160 bucks. Woah, guess what, you just turned them off to it. If you had a standard-basic starter kit, your answer is like...30-50.
My real point is more of easing into the learning curve. When I got my first PV, I got frustrated with battery life, so I got a bigger battery. I got frustrated with having a thousand little tanks full of liquid, so I got some cartos. I got frustrated with refilling cartos...but I haven't made it past that yet. I got frustrated with the voltage from my eGo, so I got an Alpha.
If I had just gone straight to the Alpha, I would have missed out on all of that learning (Which I have made several posts to help people from my experiences) and would have a harder time sticking with it. Mostly because of the constant refilling and charging.
Imagine troubleshooting on the forums for a bunch of people with Silver Bullets and ProVari's, vs 'random 510 kit'. It'd be completely different, and there's so many more things that can go wrong...and the "toss it and get a different one" wouldn't work. And the "I've got a 901 connector on my SB, how do I get 510s to work?" (Somewhat unrealistic, mostly for illustration)
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Mods, you have to learn about proper care for batteries, then find out what voltage you want, then figure out if you want cartos, attys, tanks...or if you want a dual coil or triple coil or... blah blah.
While I can accept that some people like to skip the beginner step, there is still the part of recommending it to friends. Lets say that Billybob asks Mr-Skipped-The-Beginning about his ecig, and one question that -always- comes up is "How much did that cost you?" and his answer is... 160 bucks. Woah, guess what, you just turned them off to it. If you had a standard-basic starter kit, your answer is like...30-50.
My real point is more of easing into the learning curve. When I got my first PV, I got frustrated with battery life, so I got a bigger battery. I got frustrated with having a thousand little tanks full of liquid, so I got some cartos. I got frustrated with refilling cartos...but I haven't made it past that yet. I got frustrated with the voltage from my eGo, so I got an Alpha.
If I had just gone straight to the Alpha, I would have missed out on all of that learning (Which I have made several posts to help people from my experiences) and would have a harder time sticking with it. Mostly because of the constant refilling and charging.
Imagine troubleshooting on the forums for a bunch of people with Silver Bullets and ProVari's, vs 'random 510 kit'. It'd be completely different, and there's so many more things that can go wrong...and the "toss it and get a different one" wouldn't work. And the "I've got a 901 connector on my SB, how do I get 510s to work?" (Somewhat unrealistic, mostly for illustration)
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Well, I'm afraid I'm the one that recommended it to him but, he said he wanted something powerful. Besides a roughstack isn't that much different. It's not like it's a VV bottom feeder.
I can understand the desire to start someone off with the basics -- and most of the time this is what I do, too. Volt or eGo are my two main suggestions depending on what form factor they want to start off with. They're both simple, no nonsense solutions that can get them started quickly. But if they want to do with something bigger, I'll usually lay out a few of the simpler mods that aren't too complicated -- stuff like Silver Bullet if they want a multi-voltage option, or Buzz Pro if they want no-whisles-just-works VV.
I think that was a good recommendation that you gave. My comment was more about the descriptions at MadVapes for some products.
If they were a little more descriptive, they'd probably sell more stuff.
If they could keep the stuff they do sell in stock, they could sell more stuff.
Madvapes has a lot of stuff that is usually out of stock. When they get some in, it sells quickly.
It's not just them.
There is still a big market, from low end build your own mod kits, all the way up to the high end reo and provari and darwin high end. Buzz Pro's seem to be able to meet demand for their regular models, but the ones with the beautiful veneer are hard to get.
The guy selling Reo's makes a batch, and they are gone in no time. The Provari website says there is a 1 week wait for the basic model, a 2 week wait for black, and a 3 week wait for chrome.
I've done a lot of shopping, a lot of research, etc recently, and I find a lot of places where they are selling something that catches my interest enough that I'm checking it out - but even if they convinced me that's exactly what I wanted, they are out of stock.
Even as I'm writing this, the roughstack that he ordered is out of stock at madvapes.
Madvapes has a lot of stuff that is usually out of stock. When they get some in, it sells quickly.
It's not just them.
There is still a big market, from low end build your own mod kits, all the way up to the high end reo and provari and darwin high end. Buzz Pro's seem to be able to meet demand for their regular models, but the ones with the beautiful veneer are hard to get.
The guy selling Reo's makes a batch, and they are gone in no time. The Provari website says there is a 1 week wait for the basic model, a 2 week wait for black, and a 3 week wait for chrome.
I've done a lot of shopping, a lot of research, etc recently, and I find a lot of places where they are selling something that catches my interest enough that I'm checking it out - but even if they convinced me that's exactly what I wanted, they are out of stock.
Even as I'm writing this, the roughstack that he ordered is out of stock at madvapes.
I wouldn't worry about that, I haven't recieved my mod yet but when I do I'll figure out how to use it, with or without manuals. You guys, youtube, and google can be my instruction guides.
Hell, so far I've learned a lot without even holding a mod yet, or any e-cig for that matter. Besides I went through the same online help process in the past before, especially when I decided to assemble my own computer from individual parts.
Lol, I was online for about a week before I even started that project. But, when I went to build it there were no foul ups and this computer has worked for 6 years with no problems.
I'm sure this will turn out fine too. If anything is likely to turn me away from a PV it will be if they don't satisfy my nicotine cravings enough to quit smoking within a few months.
The Maxi Roughstick I decided to start with because 3.7 volts and 3000mah battery duration, sounds like it's better than what most people get with slim e-cig models, and if I ever need anything stronger I can use the same mod with stronger batteries. So It looks flexible which is what I like about it. Also the price was very nice for the flexibility it has.
So I think it was a great suggestion
Mike
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If they could keep the stuff they do sell in stock, they could sell more stuff.
Madvapes has a lot of stuff that is usually out of stock. When they get some in, it sells quickly.
It's not just them.
There is still a big market, from low end build your own mod kits, all the way up to the high end reo and provari and darwin high end. Buzz Pro's seem to be able to meet demand for their regular models, but the ones with the beautiful veneer are hard to get.
The guy selling Reo's makes a batch, and they are gone in no time. The Provari website says there is a 1 week wait for the basic model, a 2 week wait for black, and a 3 week wait for chrome.
I've done a lot of shopping, a lot of research, etc recently, and I find a lot of places where they are selling something that catches my interest enough that I'm checking it out - but even if they convinced me that's exactly what I wanted, they are out of stock.
Even as I'm writing this, the roughstack that he ordered is out of stock at madvapes.
Already out of stock! Wow thats quick. I saw the quantity go from 9 to 8 Friday night after I made my purchase, I checked it so I could confirm that the order went through. I didn't expect the rest would sell so fast, so I'm glad I placed the order when I did.
Mine has already been shipped but it hasn't got out of Charlotte yet according to the tracking info.
Just to let you know, the tracking info tends to run about a day behind. I really had expected you to get it today. Since it didn't, I'd expect it Tuesday. I'd be very surprised if it isn't there.
Maybe I've just had exceptionally good luck, or maybe Dallas is right on a major delivery vein or something, and that's warped my perception.
Maybe I've just had exceptionally good luck, or maybe Dallas is right on a major delivery vein or something, and that's warped my perception.
You've only done that once?
Ummm about that. I hope you're not expecting to get your PV and be done with cigarettes effortlessly. Some lucky souls are like that and I hope you're one but, I wasn't. Do what works for you but, here's what I did. I went ahead and smoked 3 or 4 cigarettes a day for a few weeks. When I smoked them I did nothing else. No watching TV, sitting at the computer etc. I vaped all I wanted whenever I wanted. I had trouble finding the riht nic level flavort etc. as well. After a few weeks I got it worked out and I found I really wasn't looking forward to those cigarettes. Then it was a lot easier to put them down.
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