I was wondering exactly the same because the information so far is mix and very confusing, for example checking one review at youtube it shows the back of the box where the mod comes in and it shows the sandstorm on 25mm AND 22mm (yes 22mm not 23mm) then you go to JV website and shows the sandstorm size more like the mod can acommodate tanks FROM 23mm TO 25mm not like is two different options. Pictures of the 2 examples below;
JAC Vapour Series-B DNA 75w
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I was wondering exactly the same because the information so far is mix and very confusing, for example checking one review at youtube it shows the back of the box where the mod comes in and it shows the sandstorm on 25mm AND 22mm (yes 22mm not 23mm) then you go to JV website and shows the sandstorm size more like the mod can acommodate tanks FROM 23mm TO 25mm not like is two different options. Pictures of the 2 examples below;
Colombia, I'm VERY interested to follow this progression, and I have no doubt that everyone here is as well. Please keep us updated?
And best wishes on getting the size Jackie you prefer.
And best wishes on getting the size Jackie you prefer.
Colombia, I'm VERY interested to follow this progression, and I have no doubt that everyone here is as well. Please keep us updated?
And best wishes on getting the size Jackie you prefer.
Will do
Update:
Got a very short email from Jac Vapour customer service and the resolution is the same as they gave me last Saturday:
Refuse the package and wait until they got it back in order to get my full refund back.
So management did nothing new.
Absolutely not mention about their website lack of communication and information.
I dont know why I am a little upsted as I know is probably the only resolution, maybe because I am down more than $250 Canadian dollares who knows for how many weeks.
I gave them this thread so at least they are aware I am not the only one surprise by the issue of not information about the 23mm size of the sandstorm mod and I sincerely hope nobody else do the mistake I did.
Got a very short email from Jac Vapour customer service and the resolution is the same as they gave me last Saturday:
Refuse the package and wait until they got it back in order to get my full refund back.
So management did nothing new.
Absolutely not mention about their website lack of communication and information.
I dont know why I am a little upsted as I know is probably the only resolution, maybe because I am down more than $250 Canadian dollares who knows for how many weeks.
I gave them this thread so at least they are aware I am not the only one surprise by the issue of not information about the 23mm size of the sandstorm mod and I sincerely hope nobody else do the mistake I did.
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Update 2:
Got and email from customer service manager
Basically is MY FAULT because when I ordered it stated CLEARLY I am ordering the 23mm....again size that is not information whasoever on their website. So resolution is what I mentioned above not accept and return package.
So if I miss the delivery because nobody is at home and they do the delivery into my mail box I am out of luck because I am going to have to pay for the return....great.
Again I pointed them to the direction of this thread because apparently the issue is customer fault and not their lack of information.
Got and email from customer service manager
Basically is MY FAULT because when I ordered it stated CLEARLY I am ordering the 23mm....again size that is not information whasoever on their website. So resolution is what I mentioned above not accept and return package.
So if I miss the delivery because nobody is at home and they do the delivery into my mail box I am out of luck because I am going to have to pay for the return....great.
Again I pointed them to the direction of this thread because apparently the issue is customer fault and not their lack of information.
How close are you to the post office? Maybe you can take the unopened package to the post office, and refuse delivery there.
Update 3:
After explaining the issue as a customer I received a second email from management.
They are now aware of the information conflict and working with the web team to fix the issue.
They are getting a new batch of 25mm soon (hopefully this week) and they will send me the sandstorm 25mm as soon as they get them.
And finally if for any reason I have to pay for the return of the 23mm they will refund me the cost.
Overall I am happy with this resolution, I edited my first post as my issue I believe has been resolved.
After explaining the issue as a customer I received a second email from management.
They are now aware of the information conflict and working with the web team to fix the issue.
They are getting a new batch of 25mm soon (hopefully this week) and they will send me the sandstorm 25mm as soon as they get them.
And finally if for any reason I have to pay for the return of the 23mm they will refund me the cost.
Overall I am happy with this resolution, I edited my first post as my issue I believe has been resolved.
@Colombia Glad it seems to have worked out though I know it sucks to have frustration like this taint what seems to be a wonderful mod. I've been following closely as the 75w Sandstorm caught my eye. I haven't cared about a regulated mod since I stopped using Provaris and picked up the Billet Box. My mains are one Billet Box rev4 and squonkers. The only tanks I still have are the Spheroid v4, Prometey and a few O-16 tank clones.
At first I thought I would want the 22mm version but now that I've looked and thought out tank options, the 25mm makes more sense. Anyone have insight that might have both and the pros and cons?
I'll need to find a tank methinks - The Vapefly Galaxies MTL RTA looks promising.
At first I thought I would want the 22mm version but now that I've looked and thought out tank options, the 25mm makes more sense. Anyone have insight that might have both and the pros and cons?
I'll need to find a tank methinks - The Vapefly Galaxies MTL RTA looks promising.
I have both. They both perform exactly the same. Main difference is the 25mm can accomodate a larger tank, and the Sandstorm finish is more durable against scratches. The slightly larger surface area on the bottom of the Sandstorm makes it more stable if set down in the upright position.
I put a Vaporskinz protective wrap on my black 22mm because its rubberized paint surface was getting scraped up. The wrap has a leather-like pebble grain texture, which I enjoy very much, and I prefer the Crown tank over the Aero Mesh tank, so it gets picked more often than my Sandstorm. I have an original Crown tank on the black 22mm. Original Uwell Crown Clearomizer Tank
I have a 25mm Geekvape Aero Mesh tank on the Sandstorm. This tank's coils require a higher wattage than I normally use. I prefer 30 watts, but the Aero Mesh coils work best between 60 - 90 watts. Lower wattage settings are not that pleasing to me with these coils.
I really recommend either version, with the 25mm Sandstorm getting the nod over the 22mm black because of its more durable finish. Hope the above helps.
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@MsLoud as @Baditude mentioned is just the top diameter size difference to acommodate larger tanks.
However please note that the black 22mm is discontinued and now the only available sizes are 23mm and 25mm both on sandstorm finish.
The 25mm is out of stock and they will be getting new batch soon (maybe this week).
However please note that the black 22mm is discontinued and now the only available sizes are 23mm and 25mm both on sandstorm finish.
The 25mm is out of stock and they will be getting new batch soon (maybe this week).
I'm so use to short atties (drippers on squonkers) that even my Spheroid seems cumbersome on anything but the JM16 that it resides on now and forever. Gone are all my Kayfuns but I feel even those would overwhelm the sleekness of the Jac. I remember seeing a short tank that was a 2ml capacity that may work. MTL is what I enjoy nowadays. Of course, it needs to be a rebuildable. I'm not much on drop-in coils except for the Aspire BBV in my BB for the occasions when I'm feeling lazy.
Thank you for the feedback @Baditude . I read through your review of the Jac and that lead me here and to other YT reviews. That's what changed my mind on the 22 vs 25. Even if I use a 22mm atty, I can throw on a beauty ring.
Thank you for the feedback @Baditude . I read through your review of the Jac and that lead me here and to other YT reviews. That's what changed my mind on the 22 vs 25. Even if I use a 22mm atty, I can throw on a beauty ring.
Oooo 23mm you say? What an odd size, ya? I think I need to select at least a tank or 2 before deciding on 23 or 25mm Jac. If i can live with the 23mm then that may just be perfect. I like a smidgen of room between the atty and the edge of the mod if I chose a 16/18mm tank with beauty ring.
And there's the "me", who pretty much digs anything "22". What can I say? 
I've got both, and like them both. My two (wrapped) 22's remain my most used mods by far, and they take a daily beating from me. I do love them so.
I've got both, and like them both. My two (wrapped) 22's remain my most used mods by far, and they take a daily beating from me. I do love them so.
Update 3:
After explaining the issue as a customer I received a second email from management.
They are now aware of the information conflict and working with the web team to fix the issue.
They are getting a new batch of 25mm soon (hopefully this week) and they will send me the sandstorm 25mm as soon as they get them.
And finally if for any reason I have to pay for the return of the 23mm they will refund me the cost.
Overall I am happy with this resolution, I edited my first post as my issue I believe has been resolved.
Kolor me diskombobulated, Columbia, but you said that the black 22mm is discontinued? Perhaps I'm just too tired to navigate my way round the JV site, but I see the black 22 as "out of stock".
I sure wish all this info had total klarity.
I sure wish all this info had total klarity.
I must have fixed it on my Hcigar DNA75 when I took it all apart, burnished the connections, and re-assembled it!
I see resistance rise on heated coils and a move back toward original resistance as they cool (when I don't lock cold resistance). Hot coils change resistance between hot and cold. Thermal expansion is the basis of coils used in TC mode. I know someone is going to require validation ... so it's below.
What Happens to Metal When Heated?
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Thank you DP! That helped seal the deal. Vapefly RDTA and the 25mm Sandstorm. Now to wait for them to have them in stock.
I don't like that. Like you said, the Sandstorm is 25mm and there is no information about a 23mm on their site. How can you order something that's not listed?
Disappointed? I'd be totally bs!
Keep us posted on this.
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