Johnson Creek finally releases their "Canteen" system (tank)

[Racehorse]

Bought 2 bottles of JC to test. No vapor and a beef brisket barbecue taste.

Dumped them both.

Which you shouldn't have done as JC is one of the few vendors who will actually take stuff back.

They were one of the few providers of 100% VG juice back when few were doing that, too. They have lab tested juices. They always provided ejuice in glass bottles, vapor sealed, etc. Quality outfit IMHO.


And many people have quit analogs using the Blu....I really don't care how people get off analogs, but if it's with the Blu and it's saving their lives, that's all I really care about.

I don't put politics above individual human beings. The whole point with vaping is harm reduction and to SAVE LIVES, isn't it???

 

[DivideMyDestiny]

I still keep a back of Blus around. I wish I could get that Peach in a bottle at some point because it's great if you've got 10 bucks to burn through.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I've said many times here that when someone develops a battery and juice delivery combo that's easy to use, doesn't leak or burn out quickly and delivers great flavor and vapor, and then develops a means of marketing it to the masses, Katie bar the door.

Right now, this is all in its infancy. Getting the right combo that delivers the right performance and finding the right liquid is complicated. For probably the vast majority of current smokers, it's too complicated. You have to really, really want to quit smoking in order to deal with all of the issues of charging, filling, fixing leaks, cleaning, dry burning and all the other happy horsecrap we've gone through. All while also dealing with a nicotine withdrawal Jones?

If Johnson Creek's Vea Canteen combo is the solution to the complications issue, more power to'em.

I'm still cloning their Domestic and Tennessee Cured liquids though, and I'm -> <- that close.

 

[proraptor]

Dang did you see her boobs shake when she shook the juice? Hell yeah.....merica! The new tank and all their products look out of date and boring

 

[tj99959]

So the burning question of the day is which company in China is making their CE4 clones?

 

[bluecat]

Which you shouldn't have done as JC is one of the few vendors who will actually take stuff back.

They were one of the few providers of 100% VG juice back when few were doing that, too. They have lab tested juices. They always provided ejuice in glass bottles, vapor sealed, etc. Quality outfit IMHO.


And many people have quit analogs using the Blu....I really don't care how people get off analogs, but if it's with the Blu and it's saving their lives, that's all I really care about.

I don't put politics above individual human beings. The whole point with vaping is harm reduction and to SAVE LIVES, isn't it???

If the whole point is to save lives then the vaping devices would turn into a medical device and thus regulated by the government. With Obamacare around the corner.... I'll just stop there. Most of ECF does not want it regulated as a medical device. Many post here since I started vaping that state that. I think it was 2009 the government tried to regulate it as such and it was knocked down.

Plain and simple it is a thing I enjoy to do that in fact stops me from smoking. It was my choice to smoke and it is my choice to vape. I enjoyed smoking but realized it is bad for me. All the long term data for vaping is not in. We are assuming (yes I assume as well) that it is better for me. It may or may not be the case. Quite frankly, we are putting directly into our lungs flavoring, pg or vg and nicotine. Good or bad? I dunno, but am assuming it is better than smoking.

I never said they were not a quality outfit. However, my taste buds did not enjoy it. If yours do, no worries here. i was in no way bad mouthing them. To each their own.

If you enjoy JC more power to you. I do not. Whether they are the premium e liquid that 99% of the world likes, it doesn't change the fact I do not like it.

 

[stevegmu]

I've said many times here that when someone develops a battery and juice delivery combo that's easy to use, doesn't leak or burn out quickly and delivers great flavor and vapor, and then develops a means of marketing it to the masses, Katie bar the door.

Right now, this is all in its infancy. Getting the right combo that delivers the right performance and finding the right liquid is complicated. For probably the vast majority of current smokers, it's too complicated. You have to really, really want to quit smoking in order to deal with all of the issues of charging, filling, fixing leaks, cleaning, dry burning and all the other happy horsecrap we've gone through. All while also dealing with a nicotine withdrawal Jones?

If Johnson Creek's Vea Canteen combo is the solution to the complications issue, more power to'em.

I'm still cloning their Domestic and Tennessee Cured liquids though, and I'm -> <- that close.

It seems those with 'advanced' pvs always seem to mock small, simple devices. They fail to understand products like the VEA aren't made or marketed for them. They are designed as easy to use, reliable systems which a smoker with no knowledge of e-cigarettes can pick up, charge and use right away- hassle free.

I still use my VEAs every now and then, with a BLU Premium 100 carto in them. They work well.

 

[HDVaper]

IMHO you'd need a "canteen" full of mouthwash to vape their stuff!!

 

[HauntedMyst]

Johnson Creek finally releases their "Canteen" system (tank)

And thank goodness they did! This thing will revolutionize the industry! Never before has a clearo atomizer combined an ego style attachment with a clear body with a liquid scale on it. Each pack comes with 3 and you can refill them up to 3 times for $10? I'm gonna have to sell my Protanks.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

And thank goodness they did! This thing will revolutionize the industry! Never before has a clearo atomizer combined an ego style attachment with a clear body with a liquid scale on it. Each pack comes with 3 and you can refill them up to 3 times for $10? I'm gonna have to sell my Protanks.

Your posts always crack me up when I least expect it.

Seriously though, Johnson Creek has the marketing savvy to make that unit successful. I wouldn't underestimate them.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

It seems those with 'advanced' pvs always seem to mock small, simple devices. They fail to understand products like the VEA aren't made or marketed for them. They are designed as easy to use, reliable systems which a smoker with no knowledge of e-cigarettes can pick up, charge and use right away- hassle free.

I still use my VEAs every now and then, with a BLU Premium 100 carto in them. They work well.

Yep. And I've never understood why. My friend with the Vea system is delighted with it. She likes the form factor, she likes the performance and she likes its ease of use. She thinks I'm nearly nuts for collecting all of these weird looking, weirdly named devices.

A lot of APV users resemble the LinuxBots on pooter tech forums vs. the Windows horde. Everyone recognizes that Linux is a much more powerful operating system, but people have work to do that does not include mounting drives and devices and "configuring" the operating system. They just want to mash the power button, load up Excel/Word/PowerPoint and get stuff done. The LinuxBots scorn them as if they were a lower caste or something, but the Windows horde cashes paychecks...

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

This reminds me of V2 cigarettes. I started with their kit and got into vaping from there. They were offering a new clearomizer that they had in "beta testing."

I did some research and found a Kanger clearo that was much, much cheaper, $12.95 for a 5 pack and looked identical to their "beta" model pictures which were $14.95 for a 3 pack.

I came to the conclusion that what they were really "beta testing" was customers willingness to pay $4.98 for a Kanger product they could get elsewhere for $2.95 if they took the time to figure out what 808d threads were.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Your posts always crack me up when I least expect it.

Seriously though, Johnson Creek has the marketing savvy to make that unit successful. I wouldn't underestimate them.

Thanks! Seriously, I actually do wish them all the success in the world with it. I just found it amusing anyone would be excited over it since it's been on the market in a different form for a long time and it seems around here no one gets excited about anything unless its stainless and in short production. Even if they are just an over priced CE4, any money spent on it by a noob or expert is money not spent on analogs and that's a win for everyone. To me, if there is a flaw in their marketing, its the pricing and marketing of the battery kits. They should take the Kindle approach, sell them at a break even or a slight loss and make money back on the juice and cartridges. They need to get 7/11 to carry their stuff. That would transform vaping and that I would be super excited about.

 

[damthisisfun]

Why are folks that dont like JC wasting their time posting on this thread - go find out more abt the Provari or sub ohming or Mods or whatever tickles ur fancy......I have yet to try another company's juice that I can vape for more then a few minutes.....I dont go on those threads and bad mouth their juice (taste like deep fried turkey or something).................so childish......

 

[Myrany]

Why are folks that dont like JC wasting their time posting on this thread - go find out more abt the Provari or sub ohming or Mods or whatever tickles ur fancy......I have yet to try another company's juice that I can vape for more then a few minutes.....I dont go on those threads and bad mouth their juice (taste like deep fried turkey or something).................so childish......

If it is bashing them to ask if any of their flavors do not have a tobacco flavor base and just taste like the fruit or whatever then guilty as charged. I do not like tobacco flavors. I tried the blu sampler pack and found that ALL the flavors in it have a base of tobacco + the other flavor. I don't care for that so before I spend money ordering juice I would like to know if all their flavors are that way.

 

[Rickajho]

Ok, let's get a few things straight and clear up some misinformation.

2) Johnson Creek is the furthest thing from a "big company", unless you consider a place with under 30 total employees a "big company". They have less than 30 people working for them, are not publicly traded or owned. Just because their website doesn't look like it was created in a 3rd grade art class doesn't mean they are some sort of massive conglomerate.

I find that perception amusing when one of the first things you are met with at the JC web site is this:

Hmmm... Press Releases - eMedia Johnson Creek Smoke Juice Click!

"What started as an experiment in Berkey’s basement is now a thriving enterprise employing 50 people and growing at an unbelievable rate of 511% over the past three years. Revenue in 2012 was $7.6 million – up from $1.2 million in 2009. Projections for 2013 are $13 million."

So your perception is a good 20+ employees short. And I'm pretty sure they fired the Keebler Elves a few million in revenue ago.

 

[Rickajho]

Looks like a e-Smart with 510 threading. Interesting that the cone fits over it as most standard ego cones aren't that wide...but a dremmel tool can fix that.

No it don't, not a standard cover anyway: https://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/vea-trade-canteen.html

"IMPORTANT NOTE:If you already own a Vea® rechargeable e-cigarette, you will need a different cover when using the Canteen™ tank system. A custom-built Canteen™ Press-On Cover for your Vea® is sold separately."

I'm sorry - I'm just not feeling the love here. Take your Canteen, to the Creek, and fill it with some Creek juice. GACK!

People can rationalize this one any way they want, but when does a 3/$10.00 1 ml cartomizer that has "Recommended usage: 3 to 5 refills" cross the line and simply become a ripoff? At my usage I'd be tossing one of those in the trash every day.

Sorry, ain't buying it - literally.

 

[mattiem]

If it is bashing them to ask if any of their flavors do not have a tobacco flavor base and just taste like the fruit or whatever then guilty as charged. I do not like tobacco flavors. I tried the blu sampler pack and found that ALL the flavors in it have a base of tobacco + the other flavor. I don't care for that so before I spend money ordering juice I would like to know if all their flavors are that way.

I liked their Peach but just not enough to pay $20.00 + shipping for 30 mls of it. There are others out there for a much better price. They were the first company we purchased e-juice from and liked most of the flavors in the sampler pack we bought. The full size bottles weren't as good as the samples for some reason.

 

[DC2]

On the upside that partnership with Blu just might indicate that there will be SOME effort to keep EGO style systems legal. Not the optimal vape but still better than cigalike only.

It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I fully agree with this.

As long as there exists a Johnson Creek/Blu/Lorillard relationship...
--I have hope that someone with big money will be fighting for our continued access to flavors
--I have hope that someone with big money will be fighting for our continued access to nicotine refull liquid
--I have hope that Big Tobacco may someday realize the benefits of offering something beyond just cig-a-likes

And these are the very things that I most fear will be taken away by the FDA demon regulations.

 

[DC2]

And as a side note, if I could get Tennessee Cured in a 70/30 mix, it would be in my top five.
But as it is, I just don't get enough vaper to feel satisfied.