Johnson Creek Vea - Under represented here?

[MyKosmo]

I just performed a search for the new Johnson Creek Vea and it came up with a mere handful of posts, in the entire forum. I'm wondering why this is. I bought one from Premuim eCigs in Melbourne Florida and I've found it to be a fantastic device. I LOVE their cartomizers, although they've been out of stock far too long now, and the whole device is built like a Rolls Royce.

When the cartos do come back in stock I'm going to load up.

Has anyone here tried it, or bought one themselves?

 

[NGIB]

I looked at them and it appears to be a higher priced eGo clone - what makes it special? I read your review and are you really going to stand by the claim that a 650 mah battery will last "a few days' between charges. I'm not a chain vaper but 5-6 hours and mine need a trip to the charger. Credibility, once lost, is very difficult to recover - just saying...

 

[elfstone]

I am wondering that myself. And I still am having trouble understanding how 1 ml is "ultra high capacity"... That's the standard carto capacity...

 

[Harplayr]

I vape a lot of Johnson Creek juices and was very excited about a product designed around Johnson Creek’s juices. I tried it, but returned it.

For some reason I was not able to vape it without getting a burnt taste out of the cartos. I tried the cartos on my kgo and the same thing happened. I tried filling them using the drip method, syringe method and condom method but had no luck. I haven’t heard many complaints about their cartos, so I might have gotten a bad batch. I would get about 10 to 20 amazing vapes, then a burnt taste. I’ve not had this happen with other brands of cartos.

The battery itself is excellent. It has a real high end finish, looks great, feels good and performs well. I liked the pass through. My only complaint is that since it’s much like an ego, they didn’t go with the ego cone threads so you need an adaptor for some attachments like the stardust.

The kicker for me is that I got the ego Twist that same week and loved the versatility of VV vaping, so I decided to return the Vea. If it weren’t for the bad carto’s, I would rate it above the kgo.

Johnson Creek was excellent about returning the produce. They emailed me a return lable, gave me a full refund and paid shipping

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

If we seem underwhelmed, it's because the Vea is nothing but yet another eGo clone.

Been there, done that—but spent noticeably less for two 650mAh batts.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

For some reason I was not able to vape it without getting a burnt taste out of the cartos. I tried the cartos on my kgo and the same thing happened.

Likely your problem is that JC liquids are 100% VG-based, which paper-filler cartos don't like. VG is of too thick a viscosity, gunks up that sort of carto quickly.

 

[chunkmeister]

So, basically, it's a pair of Ego 650mah with passthru, a cone and 5 carts... Um.... $60 give or take a penny or two.

Compare this with say, similar products from healthcabin.net
Battries are $14.40 each, and 5 carts for $12. Add a bottle of eliquid for a few bucks. You're still waaaaayyy cheaper than the Johnson Creek option. (You can save the money for e-liquid, more carts, or even buy a spare battery... or tuck it away for a lavatube

- I know what I'd do with the $60

 

[Harplayr]

Likely your problem is that JC liquids are 100% VG-based, which paper-filler cartos don't like. VG is of too thick a viscosity, gunks up that sort of carto quickly.

A couple of things to consider:
1) I vape the same Johnson Creek juices using Boge, Smoketech, Blu and Volt cartos with excellent results. The only carto's I had problems with were the Johnson Creek Vea cartos that were designed FOR their juices.

2) I tried both their Read Oak line (100% VG) and their Origional line which is a PG/VG mix

My guess it that I had a bad batch of cartos.

 

[MyKosmo]

I firmly stick by my review. I don't have to recharge my batteries but once every few days. But to answer the first poster's post,

I think the physical aspects of the device deserve mention, although I understand many people here are not impressed with physical traits and are only interested in performance. I get that, but first, the device itself.

I've seen more than my share of ego's and tgo's and what have you's and the Vea looks and feels like a finely crafted device on par with nothing I've seen to date. The rubberized finish has a wonderful tactile feel to it, the slip on cone fits snugly and doesn't come off, even the cartomizer end of the device has a great design to it, not just a simple screw on cap.

The pass-through ability is a great feature as well, so if and when you charge it you can still vape while plugged into your computer or USB Hub.

What really sells it for me is their cartomizers. It doesn't matter what juice I've vaped in an ego or lava tube there is always a base taste, whether its the PG or VG, doesn't matter... something comes through without a cartomizer acting as a filter to mellow out that base chemical taste.

Naturally there are larger cartomizers out there, but at the $59 price point and the fact that it will appeal to the non-professional vaper, it is a large carto. 70 drops is a lot, you can't argue with that. But the fact that it is a cartomizer based device is a huge plus.

The cartomizer was designed FOR the Vea, so the amount of flavor and vapor is tailored for the battery. Is it the most powerful battery? No, not at all. Largest carto? No, but together they work wonderfully. I don't experience the chemical taste at all, no matter which juice I've put in the cartos. That's the absolute truth.

You can pay a whole lot more for a whole lot less, and it certainly isn't something for those that vape as, well, pros. Those that buy the Provari or those that buy huge batteries, large tanks, mix their own juice, etc. What it is is a perfect eCigarette for those coming "up" from the standard eCig battery and carto combo.

Another poster says he experienced a burnt taste every time. I believe something was wrong, either with the juice or the cartomizer itself, because I've never tasted a burnt taste with the Vea, not once, not ever. And I've gone through a lot of juices with it.

I'm on my last carto now, have been since thursday, and this morning marked my 14th refill. And only today am I feeling the atomizer dying. I'm not getting much vapor this morning, and will now have to be patient until JC gets stock, but 14 times isn't bad at all. Well, 13 times really since this last refill is not going well. But burnt taste? Never.

In my review I allude to the Vea being the best Tgo (or eGo, same thing) that works exclusively with a custom cartomizer. And that's absolutely true. For JC's first attempt at hardware its an amazing product.

Lastly, to address the battery lasting a couple of days... I don't imagine many people vape all day every day. I pick it up, vape with it for a while, and then put it down. The last time, before last night when I charged my battery, was Wednesday afternoon.

If you are having issues with a burnt taste in the cartos and battery issues I recommend calling JC about it, cause that is not an issue I have. If anything, the major issue I have is the fact that they are out of cartomizers and I will, beginning today, have to switch off and on with other devices I have here, which is plenty, but still...

As to credibility, well, there are a few brands that refuse to even talk to us or respond to emails because we didn't praise them. We offer to return, and often do return, hardware that we review.

I hope that answers your concerns. I still wonder why its not talked about much here. I think its an awesome product.

Thanks for responding to my post, I'm new here and want to start off not making enemies

 

[Harplayr]

So, basically, it's a pair of Ego 650mah with passthru, a cone and 5 carts... Um.... $60 give or take a penny or two.

Compare this with say, similar products from healthcabin.net
Battries are $14.40 each, and 5 carts for $12. Add a bottle of eliquid for a few bucks. You're still waaaaayyy cheaper than the Johnson Creek option. (You can save the money for e-liquid, more carts, or even buy a spare battery... or tuck it away for a lavatube

- I know what I'd do with the $60

When you add the charger it's a little more, but not a huge ripoff.

 

[Harplayr]

I firmly stick by my review. I don't have to recharge my batteries but once every few days. But to answer the first poster's post,

I think the physical aspects of the device deserve mention, although I understand many people here are not impressed with physical traits and are only interested in performance. I get that, but first, the device itself.

I've seen more than my share of ego's and tgo's and what have you's and the Vea looks and feels like a finely crafted device on par with nothing I've seen to date. The rubberized finish has a wonderful tactile feel to it, the slip on cone fits snugly and doesn't come off, even the cartomizer end of the device has a great design to it, not just a simple screw on cap.

The pass-through ability is a great feature as well, so if and when you charge it you can still vape while plugged into your computer or USB Hub.

What really sells it for me is their cartomizers. It doesn't matter what juice I've vaped in an ego or lava tube there is always a base taste, whether its the PG or VG, doesn't matter... something comes through without a cartomizer acting as a filter to mellow out that base chemical taste.

Naturally there are larger cartomizers out there, but at the $59 price point and the fact that it will appeal to the non-professional vaper, it is a large carto. 70 drops is a lot, you can't argue with that. But the fact that it is a cartomizer based device is a huge plus.

The cartomizer was designed FOR the Vea, so the amount of flavor and vapor is tailored for the battery. Is it the most powerful battery? No, not at all. Largest carto? No, but together they work wonderfully. I don't experience the chemical taste at all, no matter which juice I've put in the cartos. That's the absolute truth.

You can pay a whole lot more for a whole lot less, and it certainly isn't something for those that vape as, well, pros. Those that buy the Provari or those that buy huge batteries, large tanks, mix their own juice, etc. What it is is a perfect eCigarette for those coming "up" from the standard eCig battery and carto combo.

Another poster says he experienced a burnt taste every time. I believe something was wrong, either with the juice or the cartomizer itself, because I've never tasted a burnt taste with the Vea, not once, not ever. And I've gone through a lot of juices with it.

I'm on my last carto now, have been since thursday, and this morning marked my 14th refill. And only today am I feeling the atomizer dying. I'm not getting much vapor this morning, and will now have to be patient until JC gets stock, but 14 times isn't bad at all. Well, 13 times really since this last refill is not going well. But burnt taste? Never.

In my review I allude to the Vea being the best Tgo (or eGo, same thing) that works exclusively with a custom cartomizer. And that's absolutely true. For JC's first attempt at hardware its an amazing product.

Lastly, to address the battery lasting a couple of days... I don't imagine many people vape all day every day. I pick it up, vape with it for a while, and then put it down. The last time, before last night when I charged my battery, was Wednesday afternoon.

If you are having issues with a burnt taste in the cartos and battery issues I recommend calling JC about it, cause that is not an issue I have. If anything, the major issue I have is the fact that they are out of cartomizers and I will, beginning today, have to switch off and on with other devices I have here, which is plenty, but still...

As to credibility, well, there are a few brands that refuse to even talk to us or respond to emails because we didn't praise them. We offer to return, and often do return, hardware that we review.

I hope that answers your concerns. I still wonder why its not talked about much here. I think its an awesome product.

Thanks for responding to my post, I'm new here and want to start off not making enemies

I’m the guy with the burnt carto and I agree with everything you said here.
I really DO feel that I got a bad batch of cartos.

The “fit and finish” is superior to other “ego style” batteries I’ve had. I also appreciate some of the other features like venting. The only down side was the lack of threading for the cone to accommodate ego specific devices like a stardust. A simple adaptor cures that, so it’s not a biggie.

If I didn’t already have several Kgo’s and had not just gotten a Twist, I would have kept it.
As it stands it is the best ego-style system I’ve tried.

 

[elfstone]

MrKosmo, I will assume the best and say that you are probably a new and light vaper and hence easily impressed. We have a saying here: if it works for you and keeps you off the analogs, then it is the best device. That's all fine.

But, hey, the fact remains that there is nothing outstanding about a couple of eGo passthroughs. As for silly marketing gimmicks like "ultra high capacity" and "cartomizer designed for the battery" - we've heard that all before.

My guess is that this is a fairly good product, but unfortunately for JC they fail to truly position it as something sufficiently different. The above gimmicks are their expected and reasonable attempt to give themselves a chance in an oversaturated market segment.

 

[MyKosmo]

This morning I've read a lot about the joycetech eGo twist, so much so that I ordered one to try out. I too like the idea of a variable voltage device about the size of a normal ego, so I'm looking forward to trying it. Price is right, anyway And we're working on a review for the Provari black mini, which should be an awesome review as well.

Interestly, last week I listened to an interview with Jason Healy of Blu Cigs and his opinion about VV is that if the hardware and cartomizer are, basically, matched, then VV shouldn't be necessary. But he's NOT a hobbyist of vaping, which explains Blu's very limited, albeit successful, product line. Until the technology comes a lot further the need for VV will be there, especially for those looking for the "ultimate" vaping experience

 

[dcannon1]

I'm sure that Blu did say that VV isn't needed (since they don't have a VV device).

Vea - $60 ego set? No thanks. Ego style batteries are still a disposable unit. Since you can't replace the battery, they will eventually stop taking a charge and die. Regardless of how well it's made it still has a fairly short lifespan compared to PVs that use removable batteries. An all mechanical mod could theoretically last hundreds of years if it's properly maintained.

Maybe the cartos are decent, but so are Boges and they're in stock everywhere for cheap.

I don't know what all this nonsense about matching the carto to the battery is. Unless the battery has magical properties it's still just a power source.

Are the Veas regulated to 3.7v like the KGO's or 3.3-3.4v like normal Egos?

 

[NGIB]

Sorry, but one of my comments still stands. There is no way, unless you ignore the laws of physics, that a normal vaper is going to get "a few days" between charges on a 650 mah batetry. Making claims like this in your "magazine" is simply misleading and not good for "our" community.

One question: Do you work for Blu or Johnson Creek as it seems you're pushing them in every post you write...

 

[Cherryblossom]

MrKosmo, I will assume the best and say that you are probably a new and light vaper and hence easily impressed. We have a saying here: if it works for you and keeps you off the analogs, then it is the best device. That's all fine.

But, hey, the fact remains that there is nothing outstanding about a couple of eGo passthroughs. As for silly marketing gimmicks like "ultra high capacity" and "cartomizer designed for the battery" - we've heard that all before.

My guess is that this is a fairly good product, but unfortunately for JC they fail to truly position it as something sufficiently different. The above gimmicks are their expected and reasonable attempt to give themselves a chance in an oversaturated market segment.

This. Tons of us here on the board have some form of ego/kgo batteries that we use. They serve their purpose well enough, but there's nothing spectacular about them. I certainly cannot get a few days use out of any of mine without recharging them. More like a couple to a few hours. I carry 3 to work every day (two 1000 mah and one 650 mah). One will come home drained, I will have started using the second, and the third (the 650 mah) is for a backup in case the second dies, or I get caught out for longer than I expected.

I have a variety of them for backups in various colors, and like I said they serve their purpose well, which for me is to use while out and about. They're definitely not the end all be all though....I never even touch my ego's while at home. Many, many companies make some form of these, and most people own or have owned some of them. It's a fairly saturated market, and they are disposables.

 

[elfstone]

One question: Do you work for Blu or Johnson Creek as it seems you're pushing them in every post you write...

I don't think so, he has a website that makes money by affiliate linking. So there.

 

[tj99959]

I certainly cannot get a few days use out of any of mine without recharging them.

It's easy to do when they're a passthrough and you never take it off the charger

Me thinks there might be a BOT in the house.

 

[MyKosmo]

I've only done that once. Not really a fan of pass through. It looks a little weird, IMHO

 

[MyKosmo]

Why would you say that? I don't have an affiliation of any kind with Johnson Creek. Why all the hate anyway? Jesus Christ, I come here and ask a question and you want to accuse me of spamming or trolling for traffic? For what? Why? Seriously, I'd like to know, in public, right here, why you said that without knowing ANYTHING about me?