You're right, I wish they would. I wish all of them would, but sadly the only company I've known to do so is Blu Cigs. Their video even says so. Others, well, they don't it is a consumable and the temptation for many people, especially cheap people, would be to claim a malfunction when there isn't one. I imagine that is the only reason none of them warrant their cartomizers. But, I wish they would because I've had my share of duds.
Johnson Creek Vea - Under represented here?
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That's simply not true. Every vendor I've purchased cartos from provides a DOA warranty.
"Has anyone here tried it, or bought one themselves?"
My Ego clone kit cost me 79.99(on sale, usually 89.99!) Same stuff as in your kit. I've been linked to the same kit here on ECF for under 50 bux from other vendors. If you are a vendor or a reviewer and either want to make money or get free stuff from reviewing, then please don't use the newbie forum to do your thing.
I'm mad enough I got ripped off on the kit, the 20 dollar tanks that use the same exact pics in their instructions as the XXXXX-XXXX brand ones I've seen for 8.95, the e-juice I've been buying for 15 bux a bottle that I see in the exact same flavors and bottles as the 6 buck stuff I've been pointed to here....etc. I guess that is all part of the learning process; getting ripped off by people who pretend their relabeled stuff is something "new".
Please don't say those 650 mah batts will last for days, they just don't. Someone new here might believe you and then give up on quitting analogs. 10 days ago I might have believed you. ECF has taught me better and now I look forward to saving a few bucks here and there and know to be very wary of reviews from people who get free stuff and then pay it back by reviewing it.
Ps- for all you newbs newer than me: You need the BlueGlass-O-Steamer! Only 129.99 act now now now! Sure, it is the same ol' same ol'......but... check out our reviews from our happy customers:
BleuGlazz: This kit saved my kitten's life!
BlooBrassyGurl789: OMG!!!! It works so good and is nothing like the first 50 clones I looked at!!11!1!1!1
BlueGrassed: I review stuff and let me tell you this thing rocks just as hard as anything else I've ever been sent for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Ego clone kit cost me 79.99(on sale, usually 89.99!) Same stuff as in your kit. I've been linked to the same kit here on ECF for under 50 bux from other vendors. If you are a vendor or a reviewer and either want to make money or get free stuff from reviewing, then please don't use the newbie forum to do your thing.
I'm mad enough I got ripped off on the kit, the 20 dollar tanks that use the same exact pics in their instructions as the XXXXX-XXXX brand ones I've seen for 8.95, the e-juice I've been buying for 15 bux a bottle that I see in the exact same flavors and bottles as the 6 buck stuff I've been pointed to here....etc. I guess that is all part of the learning process; getting ripped off by people who pretend their relabeled stuff is something "new".
Please don't say those 650 mah batts will last for days, they just don't. Someone new here might believe you and then give up on quitting analogs. 10 days ago I might have believed you. ECF has taught me better and now I look forward to saving a few bucks here and there and know to be very wary of reviews from people who get free stuff and then pay it back by reviewing it.
Ps- for all you newbs newer than me: You need the BlueGlass-O-Steamer! Only 129.99 act now now now! Sure, it is the same ol' same ol'......but... check out our reviews from our happy customers:
BleuGlazz: This kit saved my kitten's life!
BlooBrassyGurl789: OMG!!!! It works so good and is nothing like the first 50 clones I looked at!!11!1!1!1
BlueGrassed: I review stuff and let me tell you this thing rocks just as hard as anything else I've ever been sent for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well the 40mm cartos that came with my 20$ SD Keyring hold aprox. 1.3ml. A normal 35mm Boge carto holds 1ml, and a 45mm XL Boge carto also holds 1.5ml. There are even cartos out there that hold up to 5ml of juice. 1ml IS the capacity of a normal cartomizer.
Those using an atomizer & cartridge are the only ones with less capacity.
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My only experience for returned cartos is Blu. But I'll admit there are more than 500 companies out there. Give me 5 companies that sell prefilled cartos that do guarantee their cartos.
Aside from cartos, they were fantastic about my returning the kit.
I just called them and within 10 minutes I had an email containing a UPS label for free shipping.
They credited my MC promptly upon receiving the item and sent me a email verification that it was recieved and processed.
Johnson Creek is a fine company.
I just called them and within 10 minutes I had an email containing a UPS label for free shipping.
They credited my MC promptly upon receiving the item and sent me a email verification that it was recieved and processed.
Johnson Creek is a fine company.
Juice prices are all over the board. At one time I thought $1 a ML was about right, until I saw top quality stuff for about half that. Depends on the reseller I suppose. I buy from the manufacturer when I can. And I buy 30ML bottles whenever possible, best bang for the buck.
Please don't think that people get free stuff to conduct reviews. Maybe some do, we don't. You can't really write a trusted review if you're beholden to the company. It's cheap enough stuff that it really isn't worth it.
And, just one more time; I'm sure a 650 mAh battery isn't going to last days when you're vaping 10-15 ML a day. But an average vaper, (not anyone here I'm sure) who vapes instead of smoking, can get a few days from a single charge. If I could I'd set up a camera here to do a time-lapse,
it all depends on what you're using and HOW. I don't want to address this point again because its like beating a dead horse, it ain't going anywhere.
You know what's really funny? Rereading my original post, and how innocuous it seemed at the time. Had I known that some of the members here were so thin-skinned and unwelcoming to those that work in the industry I wouldn't have posted it. Pretty sad really.
Please don't think that people get free stuff to conduct reviews. Maybe some do, we don't. You can't really write a trusted review if you're beholden to the company. It's cheap enough stuff that it really isn't worth it.
And, just one more time; I'm sure a 650 mAh battery isn't going to last days when you're vaping 10-15 ML a day. But an average vaper, (not anyone here I'm sure) who vapes instead of smoking, can get a few days from a single charge. If I could I'd set up a camera here to do a time-lapse,
it all depends on what you're using and HOW. I don't want to address this point again because its like beating a dead horse, it ain't going anywhere.You know what's really funny? Rereading my original post, and how innocuous it seemed at the time. Had I known that some of the members here were so thin-skinned and unwelcoming to those that work in the industry I wouldn't have posted it. Pretty sad really.
I am referring to their blank cartos in my post, but pre-filled cartos also apply. My original vaping vendor was more than willing to cover a DOA that I received. No, I am not going to post who they were...they're overpriced, and overhyped.
Getting away from the tit-for-tat and back on topic discussing the product....
The cartomizers do have some nice features.
1) they use a horizontal coil
2) the center air tube is a bit thicker and wider
3) the end cap is riged and can be pulled off with your fingers...no need for a paper clip or tool
4) they are just a little longer than standard boge's
5) perfectly match the color of the battery giving it a uniform appearance
6) give an excellent flavorful vape which is a bit on the cool side. That's great for me as I'm a bit sensitive to vapes that are too warm.
7) The draw hit my sweet spot, not too airy not too stiff- (subjective)
8) The end cap's air hole sticks down a bit and fits into the center tube
The cartomizers do have some nice features.
1) they use a horizontal coil
2) the center air tube is a bit thicker and wider
3) the end cap is riged and can be pulled off with your fingers...no need for a paper clip or tool
4) they are just a little longer than standard boge's
5) perfectly match the color of the battery giving it a uniform appearance
6) give an excellent flavorful vape which is a bit on the cool side. That's great for me as I'm a bit sensitive to vapes that are too warm.
7) The draw hit my sweet spot, not too airy not too stiff- (subjective)
8) The end cap's air hole sticks down a bit and fits into the center tube
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I have to say, the existence of this thread took me to their website, as well as some videos of the company. They seem really nice, though I cannot speak to any of their products. My personal issue here is that I (my opinion) believe that there are some misrepresentations of some products here, and I think it could be detrimental to new vapors. Anyone, and I mean anyone that has spent some time heavily, or lightly using a 650 mah battery will tell you that it isn't going to last 2 days on a charge.
Come on now, don't you think Johnson Creek would seem wildly unfair if they accepted returns from their blank cartos and not from their prefilled ones? Be fair now.
And really, how many times can you refill those cartos? 3? Maybe 4 times? I've gotten 13 from the Vea, barely 3 from some others I've used on the Tgo/eGos.
Overpriced and over-hyped? Can't be Blu cause they are not overpriced. Has to be one that sells 5 cartos for $20, way too overpriced. But then companies like that are seldom over-hyped. Other than Blu, and taking into consideration that I have not had the opportunity to review the more than 500 companies out there making eCigarettes, I know of no company who's stated policy is to gladly accept defective cartos.
And really, how many times can you refill those cartos? 3? Maybe 4 times? I've gotten 13 from the Vea, barely 3 from some others I've used on the Tgo/eGos.
Overpriced and over-hyped? Can't be Blu cause they are not overpriced. Has to be one that sells 5 cartos for $20, way too overpriced. But then companies like that are seldom over-hyped. Other than Blu, and taking into consideration that I have not had the opportunity to review the more than 500 companies out there making eCigarettes, I know of no company who's stated policy is to gladly accept defective cartos.
You do realize that base on their stated policy I could order a box of pre-filled cartos, they could arrive all dead, and I could be stuck without any recourse?
Look, this may be a decent product. While some, myself included, think this is an overpriced product, there are certainly worse ones out there. You, however, aren't just "giving your opinion", you're pushing the product.
You're an affiliate....period. I found your website, and it's exactly like the one I fell for when I first started vaping. There is nothing wrong with being an affiliate, however, don't come and go after new people pretending not to be.
I agree that there is a lot of misrepresentation of products here. But that happens in every forum I've participated in, including the tech industry where I hale from. It pays to look around, take in more than one review. When we can we have 4 people review the same product and then one writer will put it together, that was mainly done due to the subjective nature of taste. What I like in a juice you may hate. My brother says he cannot taste a chemical flavor with his Tgo, but I can taste it in every atomizer setup I've tried, which is why I highly recommend the cartomizer method.
The real crime is the mall kiosks and gas stations that sell products that are crap. People walk in for a pack a smokes, see yet another price increase, $7 a pack here, and opt for an eCig as a point of purchase sale. They try it and toss it, going back in to pay the $7.
There needs to be a major shake out in the eCig business and all those people that are in strictly as hit and run companies, are forced out and stay out. But then I'm all for juices made in the USA only, or maybe Europe when the time comes. But juices "made" in China, but the chinese, yea, no, I don't want that. Do you know how many big brands, or well known anyway, use chinese made juice, right off the shelf? Terrible, but it happens. I don't trust them, not after killing so many pets here.
The real crime is the mall kiosks and gas stations that sell products that are crap. People walk in for a pack a smokes, see yet another price increase, $7 a pack here, and opt for an eCig as a point of purchase sale. They try it and toss it, going back in to pay the $7.
There needs to be a major shake out in the eCig business and all those people that are in strictly as hit and run companies, are forced out and stay out. But then I'm all for juices made in the USA only, or maybe Europe when the time comes. But juices "made" in China, but the chinese, yea, no, I don't want that. Do you know how many big brands, or well known anyway, use chinese made juice, right off the shelf? Terrible, but it happens. I don't trust them, not after killing so many pets here.
Wait wait wait... I really don't want to chase you around and respond to every post, I really don't.. but overpriced?
$59.99 is a lot for the Vea? Seriously? I think you need to hold one and try one in person before you stick to that. And the cartomizers? $11.99 for 5? That can be refilled a dozen times, easy? $15.99 for prefilled, that you are encouraged to refill up to the a dozen times? That was actually designed to be refilled? (have you seen the ease in which the top pops off? Nothing like it out there, nothing... That's not overpriced. No way. Not everyone can sell packs of 5 prefilled for $10.40 like Blu does, and most sell 5 cartos for $14.99-$16.99 and they taste like crap (to me). Look at the horrible NJOY at $21.99 for 5. That is the very definition of overpriced. Can't we agree on that?
$59.99 is a lot for the Vea? Seriously? I think you need to hold one and try one in person before you stick to that. And the cartomizers? $11.99 for 5? That can be refilled a dozen times, easy? $15.99 for prefilled, that you are encouraged to refill up to the a dozen times? That was actually designed to be refilled? (have you seen the ease in which the top pops off? Nothing like it out there, nothing... That's not overpriced. No way. Not everyone can sell packs of 5 prefilled for $10.40 like Blu does, and most sell 5 cartos for $14.99-$16.99 and they taste like crap (to me). Look at the horrible NJOY at $21.99 for 5. That is the very definition of overpriced. Can't we agree on that?
You're wrong, flat out wrong. But I don't care anymore, you're like a dog with a bone, you're right, I'm wrong and nothing is going to change your mind. I've known people like you all my long life and when you believe something you'll never change. Think what you want.
You really have no clue, do you? I suggest you stop posting for a second and look around this forum, read a bit, find some good info on really good setups, and then come back.
You come here posing as a reviewer, downplaying your affiliate business and sort of trying to pass your opinions as more credible than a regular newbie's. You can't do that. We have reviewers in this community, well established, trusted and even loved. They have an impeccable track record. The bar is set quite high, and you come terribly short. You are not a reviewer. You have a lot to prove, and your interminable banter here doesn't help.
Yes, the Vea is not the worst product out there. You made that point. Nobody argued against that. It just isn't something to write home about. End of story.
In the end, the trouble is that pos(t)ing as a reviewer here, while having affiliate interests is bad. Newbies may not know enough to understand that you really have no "credentials". Stop it, really. It's getting tiresome.
Woof Woof! Actually, you're completely off on this. I keep an open mind on everything, especially vaping. As I said earlier, there are certainly higher priced products out there. But seriously, look where you are. You are on a forum board that's...heck I don't know how big it is, but even more important....it's active with great members. Compared to a mall kiosk, yes it's a great price. Compared to what's out there, it's like paying a BMW sticker price for a Kia.
And so tell me, what do you do for a living that makes you the expert? How many hours have you spend actually learning about the industry? I'd like to know.
Reread my original post. Read all the posts I've made here and cut n paste a single one that "reeks of affiliation" or that is wrong (and my explanation concerning causal vapers and the people that hang about here) and tell me what I got wrong?
I didn't come here trolling for viewers, no matter how strongly you think I did. I came her to share what I know and learn what I don't know. Instead I've spent the majority of time in this thread defending off attacks from people who obviously think why too much of themselves because they own the equivalent of a monster truck. I know that in any forum once the scent of blood is in the water the sharks will come out and take their share of the red meat. I see it here, in this thread, and if that's the way you want to be I can't stop that. But what I can do is defend my publication and defend myself.
So, because you know you've captured the audience of the shark or shark wannabe's go ahead and grab my posts and show them where I'm wrong, where I'm trolling for them hurry up and go to my site and use my affiliate buttons. Go, do it, now. And if you don't then just apologize for being one of those forum posters that love to rip the newbie apart, unless of course they are submissive to your whims. Which I'm not.
You're the one without a clue, the one who has to identify himself/herself as King Vaper, the almighty with the answers. So, prove that I am all these things you say I am.
Reread my original post. Read all the posts I've made here and cut n paste a single one that "reeks of affiliation" or that is wrong (and my explanation concerning causal vapers and the people that hang about here) and tell me what I got wrong?
I didn't come here trolling for viewers, no matter how strongly you think I did. I came her to share what I know and learn what I don't know. Instead I've spent the majority of time in this thread defending off attacks from people who obviously think why too much of themselves because they own the equivalent of a monster truck. I know that in any forum once the scent of blood is in the water the sharks will come out and take their share of the red meat. I see it here, in this thread, and if that's the way you want to be I can't stop that. But what I can do is defend my publication and defend myself.
So, because you know you've captured the audience of the shark or shark wannabe's go ahead and grab my posts and show them where I'm wrong, where I'm trolling for them hurry up and go to my site and use my affiliate buttons. Go, do it, now. And if you don't then just apologize for being one of those forum posters that love to rip the newbie apart, unless of course they are submissive to your whims. Which I'm not.
You're the one without a clue, the one who has to identify himself/herself as King Vaper, the almighty with the answers. So, prove that I am all these things you say I am.
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