Joye 510 Cartomizers
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I am definitely an advocate for your method! It has been working just fine for me since our last excahnges on this thread about this very topic!
I've seen needle required in the description on a few sites selling them probably the vendor trying to make a little more money off some needle sales. That said I'm impatient I'd probably rather use the needle then sit there and drip into the thread end.
If you guys are looking for these cartos, check out Heaven Gifts. They're based in China so shipping will take longer and cost more, but if you're buying the cartos in bulk, it'll actually work out to be cheaper. A pack of 5 costs $6.50.
I've just started using them, and IMO, the Joye510s are the best cartos I've tried!
I've just started using them, and IMO, the Joye510s are the best cartos I've tried!
Could be because the Joye cartos are made of plastic and not metal, like the SLB, Boge, and KR808D-1 cartos. I never have leakage with the metal cartos. I doubt that I'll try the Joye cartos anytime soon, since I hate the eGo Mega cartos for many reasons that I've previously stated and am too lazy to type up again here. The round metal cartos (Boge, SLB, KR808D-1, 4081) are so easy to fill and refill, they can be refilled for several weeks, are easy to clean/flush, they're cheaper (but that's not a factor with me), and I get great flavor, vapor, and throat hits using them.
Agreed. I think it's possible the plastic is the problem. The SLB cartos do seem to produce more vapor, flavor and TH. I've also noticed that the SLB cartos seem to put out a little warmer vapor than the Joye ones do. It could just be my imagination, but they feel like they might be a little lower resistance.
I'd love to have a race with you to see who finishes filling the carto first! I'd bet that dripping 16 drops into the thread end would win hands down! In fact, I could have filled one in the time it took me to type this, and I type 40 wpm.
lol you must be drip filling PG juice and use your toes to type your 40 wpm...
BTW I tried the Joye cartos and the taste is funky...i mean serious FUNK...anyone notice this? I vape mainly VG...
BTW I tried the Joye cartos and the taste is funky...i mean serious FUNK...anyone notice this? I vape mainly VG...
Good choice! I think Boge and SLB are the best 2 cartomizers out there personally (i've tried them ALL)
I did a little dissecting because the dripping method was not working all that great for me. I found that right thought the battery end is a little cup with wires connected to it. There is no hole in the bottom of the cup...so the cup fills up, covering all the electrical wires, till it reaches the hole that is located on the side of this cup.
Once this cup fills up and the eLiquid goes through the hole on the side, it then can either go into the air passage or soaks the atomizer and some of the filling.
I've taken apart 5 cartos and tested the ability for the stuffing to hold liquid. It seems that the stuffing itself can only absorb .6ml of liquid. BUT if you only fill it with .6ml of liquid, then the cartomizer gives off a dry burn.
So I assume that if you put .9ml in the well...that you saturate both the filling and the atomizer wick along with some excess liquid in the well and air hole.
Included is a diagram I did illustration what happens when you drip through the battery end...my worry is that you may be saturation some of the stuffing and the atomizer wick...but not all of the stuffing.
Anyway...just figured I would share.
Once this cup fills up and the eLiquid goes through the hole on the side, it then can either go into the air passage or soaks the atomizer and some of the filling.
I've taken apart 5 cartos and tested the ability for the stuffing to hold liquid. It seems that the stuffing itself can only absorb .6ml of liquid. BUT if you only fill it with .6ml of liquid, then the cartomizer gives off a dry burn.
So I assume that if you put .9ml in the well...that you saturate both the filling and the atomizer wick along with some excess liquid in the well and air hole.
Included is a diagram I did illustration what happens when you drip through the battery end...my worry is that you may be saturation some of the stuffing and the atomizer wick...but not all of the stuffing.
Anyway...just figured I would share.
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I have melted a carto into two pieces by placing an empty one on a 510 battery, and burning the atomizer to cut off twice in a row.
If you do this with a filled one...you won't melt it...but you will heat it up enough to pull the plastic casing off of the atomizer.
Personally...I have no bad taste when I use my T-Rex (eGo Style)...but a little bit of a bad taste when I use my 510.
I've learned to take shorter drags to keep the atomizer temperature in check.
The truth is...they should never have made these out of plastic. I assume that the plastic design was to keep price down...but the funny thing is...they are more expensive for us to buy.
I've definitely noticed it with the eGo Mega cartos. Just a bland taste, and then a burnt taste after vaping for 1/2 hour and 1/2mL, even though there's 2mL of liquid inside. That's why I quit using the five megas I bought for $17 at cignot. Could have bought 10 Boge or KR808D-1 metal cartos and still be using them five weeks later!
I'm starting to lean towards the megas also...I have some E2 mega cartos that I got from Volcano that I'm going to give a try. I've been using these JOYE cartos a lot...but it might be time to move on...I'm tired of cleaning them off after they leak.
Hey SF, interesting write up. I've read it about ten times, and in the midst of that I have examined the metal tip of one of the Joye cartos, with the plastic body or barrel removed. Either I'm not understanding what you are trying to say, or you are partially wrong. If you hold the metal tip up to a light, you can see the light through the hole in the bottom of the "cup" you describe. Exploring with a simple paper clip, I can pass the clip through this hole that you say isn't there. Again, maybe I'm not understanding where you say this hole is or isn't. You can also see that there is a semi-porous area underneath the electrical elements. It's difficult to tell whether liquid passes through this, but I think it does. Otherwise, it passes through the hole in the bottom, which is off to the side of the bottom, but it is not "on the side".
When you drip liquid through the hole in the tip, it passes through the hole in the bottom and into the well where the fiber fill is located. While it's true a few drops may stray into the air hole leading to the mouthpiece, the same thing happens if you overfill it using a syringe through the fill port. Once that well is full, the liquid has to go somewhere. If you overfill from the syringe fill port, you can watch the liquid start to drip through the hole in the metal tip. If you overfill through the metal tip, you can watch it drip out the mouthpiece. Same difference. And it doesn't matter which end you fill, if you overfill, the atomizer will get wet.
The sands of the hourglass flow equally from one end to the other, no matter which end is up.
I totally disagree with your statement that putting .6ml in the cartomizer results in a dry burn. That makes no sense at all to me. I frequently refill my carto throughout the day with as little as 4 drops, and it vapes fine. And as for implying that dripping into the battery hole doesn't completely saturate the filler, I have seen the evidence clearly that this is not the case. It completely saturates it if you insist on getting .9ml in there. I consider that overfilling. I don't really care whether the marketing about holding .9ml is accurate or not.
I do agree with you that they should not have made the body out of plastic. But after all, they are intended to be disposable.
I'm not trying to sell anyone on changing brands of cartomizers or e-cigs. That's an individual choice. My only contention is that the arguments against filling this brand of cartomizer from the metal tip seem weird. One only has to try it see it works just fine. If people don't want to do it, that's their business and I don't care.
all my cartomizers from electro nic stix last only a day or less before the flavor changes, even with refills. anyone have any input on why this is?
I leaned away from the megas a couple of weeks ago -- not leaned towards them, in case you misunderstood my post. Actually, I prefer KR808D-1 cartos the best now. They have the best flavor of any cartos I've tried so far, they're metal, and work fine on my eGos with the 510-battery to 808/901-atty adapters from goodprophets.com (99 cents each).
I also just took out the mesh and bridge in one of my atomizers an hour or so ago, and the flavor is even better (but I know I'll get tired of having to add 3 drops every few minutes, so I'm sure I'll use the KR808D-1 cartos most of the time -- and the Boge 510 cartos that I still have and are still working like new for about five weeks now).
Can't say I agree with what you're saying either...but...the way you hold the cartridge when drip filling from the threaded end makes a big difference...I always remove the tip and insert before I fill them...When filling them I hold the carto at about a 45 degree angle....with the air vent side up...All the juice will then be directed toward the filler and unless you overflow it...It won't leak out...I keep them in that positon for awhile to be sure the juice is totally absorbed by the filler...
I'll have to take a closer look. I fill them up with a needle...I actually fill all types of cartos with a needle...
Maybe it doesn't work for me because I'm filling with VG and it's thicker?
Either way...I still like them
Maybe it doesn't work for me because I'm filling with VG and it's thicker?
Either way...I still like them
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