The whole point is that most people who smoke...want it to be as easy as possible to transition to eCigs. That means prefills...not eliquid. That means retail devices, not mods. That means smaller units...not bigger units.
I'm talking to the main stream...not the hobbyists. It's important to make this distinction and to remember that just because you don't mind the "work" that comes with owning a 510, that doesn't mean that mainstream america will.
If you watch my review of the JOYE and the Genuine cartomizers you will see that I like them. You will also note in my original post that I HAVE PLACED AN ORDER FOR 8 MORE PACKS.
I'm not against this unit. I am using it right this second.
Being able to see both sides of the coin is what makes someone business oriented vs. not being business oriented. Makes someone a good reviewer vs. a mediocre reviewer. I own a software business...I'm reviewing for the mainstream...not the modders, dripper,dippers or syringe fillers (even though I'm one of them). I can smell the eliquid on my hands...every day...I'm not sure if that's something that appeals to mainstream.
Why do you think that BLU is so popular? because they present you with a package that is easy to swallow for someone who has never seen these devices before. And that is why lots of people start with that unit, then seek out something better. (I'm not saying BLU is good...I trash it in my review).
All that said...I doubt you have actually used a GreenCig (not Green Smoke, easily confused) because you refer them as being the "EXACT" same product. And when I say GreenCig...I mean the actual unit...not just the cartomizers. The unit, PCC and cartomizers are by far one of the easiest and best QUALITY products on the market today. I can't count the number of thank you emails I get from people who use other units who decided to spend the (admitting high) price for the GreenCig G300 Nobel Pack.
The battery is different inside and out. It is not produced by anyone other then GreenCig. The lithium Ion battery is of a different quality which let's it hold it's charge longer. The PCC is above and beyond the quality of any other PCC I have used and again uses a higher quality batter.
I dont' like their higher prices...but I look at it as minimal for what is IN MY EXPERIENCE the best product I have used.
At least I have tried both products EXTENSIVELY...and given then both good reviews for different reasons.
Try not to look at it as SEGA vs. Nintendo...I'm not against you bro...but you have to have actually tried these things to pass judgment...and while I don't know if you have...I assume from your staments that you haven't...and therefor your knowledge on the subject (GreenCig) is nothing more then hearsay.
All that said...this is a 510 Thread...so...if you like the 510...already have one...and want cartomizers...you can't go wrong with the Genuine 510 cartos.
I'll be testing out the battery end drip method as soon as I get home
Hate to leave that whole quote up there but...
I totally agree with what you said. Although I am enjoying vaping in the style I am (using an eGo, discovering other mods, etc. - as a product to keep me off analgues but also to discover nuances as a hobbyist) it can be combersome and very expensive to find the juices you prefer, myriads amount of time to read the forum and find out which cartos work and don't work so well, methodoliges for cleaning attys and cartos, refilling them, etc. ad nauseum, you get the drift).
For a person asking you for advice, getting in to the e-cig world, to help them quit smoking I would very much hesitate them to troll the forums here at ECF, at least not initially. They NEED something that will work out of the box to start with and work WELL. If you have found something in GreenCig that does that, then, even if it is more expensive of a kit, is it really more expensive than the person trying so many other things hit and miss - and let alone the TIME involved!?
I have spent hundreds of dollars in the past few weeks AFTER I had spent 130.00 on a Green Smoke kit (I know, not the same). If someone could have directed me to a GreenCig (if it works so well out of the box as you say) I would have been so grateful. Then, as I discovered more and more knowledge about things I could try other things at my leisure and within budget. As it is you can almost feel like you are constantly doubling down until you find the right system and combination. A kit that gives proven performance, proven flavor, etc is valuable. That company did alot of R&R to present something palatable to the mainstream and packaged it for a one-stop option - you can't compare the cost of a kit like that with $29.95 for a Riva (which I just recently also purchased). There is much less of a learning curve with what you are presenting and it will get them off on the right foot. No e-liquids to buy, no hit and miss on what cartomizers and attys to buy, etc. etc.
IN the past two weeks I have purchased e-liquid from five different vendors and 75 percent of it I would not buy again, so money down the drain while I find out what I like (read: expensive!). I have had troubles with a certain advanced carto design that a whole thread is based on modding it and getting it to work properly (read: expensive to buy the cartos, throw some away, buy different versions of it, etc). And this is just the monies spent, I am not even addressing the enormous amounts of time needed to become knowledgeable about it. I purchased a bottom feedign device that still required alot of effort to make work properly (squeezing a bottle to drip, how much is too much of a squeee, oops I flooded the damn atty, etc., etc.). I purchased other mods (maybe this will work better, etc., maybe this has the voltage to give me a better vape, etc). While those things can be fun to do if you have the will to do it and enjoy it, its not for everyone, it has become more of a expensive hobby for me. But you don't want to START someone else on e-cigs in this fashion.
I am liek you. I appreciate a streamlined and efficient well-made product and then give myself personally the option, as this has developed into a fine art and hobbyist pursuit, to further enhance that experience if I wish. But its really no way of getting in to it. Its no way of introducing your sister or brother or mother of acquaintance. I'd rather tell them..."hey go to xxxx.com site (in your case GreenCig) they have a great kit there that will get you going strong. Then later there are lots of other things you can discover, but just to get you started and avoid alot of frustration, start there." I probably wouldn't bother to mention ECF to them at first - LOL.
