Joyetech Cuboid 150 watt

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Hi there. Few days ago I managed to get my hands on one of these little devices. Until now I used an Aspire K1 from my ex-device.

Today I completed the set by buying a smok TF-v4. Currently I'm using the initial software (up to 150w) and the quad resistance (0.15Ohm). On Smok's website it says that it can go up to 140w, still my device doesn't go over 100w. Is it because of the software? Should I update the soft?

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Thanks for the quick reply mate. I could also try to update the firmware. The TF-v4 allows up to 140w...so I don`t see why it would limit it. I must say that it happened with my K1 that was limited to 45.5 no matter what resistance I used (1.6 or 1.8).

The only thing that stops me from updating is that I`ve seen the power controls after the update are only working for increasing the power, so to lower it you must go up to 200w and then again from minimum. After the update the other button works only to switch in the menu, right?
 

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Thanks for the quick reply mate. I could also try to update the firmware. The TF-v4 allows up to 140w...so I don`t see why it would limit it. I must say that it happened with my K1 that was limited to 45.5 no matter what resistance I used (1.6 or 1.8).

The only thing that stops me from updating is that I`ve seen the power controls after the update are only working for increasing the power, so to lower it you must go up to 200w and then again from minimum. After the update the other button works only to switch in the menu, right?
Not sure I follow you on the power control part
 

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In a general sense, concerning device amp limits (I'm both thinking out loud and asking): there's a difference in battery amp draw and what is provided to the atty. The amp limits of devices often, if not always, seem to be calculated on the atty side of things. That's, I assume, in order to protect the device internals and wiring. This appears to be the case here. A .15 coil at 100w, in a two battery device with a cutoff at 6.4v (2 x 3.2v) and 90% efficiency, will show 25.82 amps at the atty and drain 17.36 amps from the batteries at the cutoff. The battery drain won't increase unless the watts are increased (26 amps at 150w). The amps at the atty are directly dependent on the coil resistance, meaning that the full 150w can be achieved with coils from .25 to .54 (assuming 9v as the maximum voltage the device can provide). This would mean that we can not rely on the "device amp limit" to keep us safe from overtaxing our batteries, we need to calculate the amp drain based on voltage and battery cutoff. "Safe" regulated devices thus aren't as safe as we'd believe.

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In a general sense, concerning device amp limits (I'm both thinking out loud and asking): there's a difference in battery amp draw and what is provided to the atty. The amp limits of devices often, if not always, seem to be calculated on the atty side of things. That's, I assume, in order to protect the device internals and wiring. This appears to be the case here. A .15 coil at 100w, in a two battery device with a cutoff at 6.4v (2 x 3.2v) and 90% efficiency, will show 25.82 amps at the atty and drain 17.36 amps from the batteries at the cutoff. The battery drain won't increase unless the watts are increased (26 amps at 150w). The amps at the atty are directly dependent on the coil resistance, meaning that the full 150w can be achieved with coils from .25 to .54 (assuming 9v as the maximum voltage the device can provide). This would mean that we can not rely on the "device amp limit" to keep us safe from overtaxing our batteries, we need to calculate the amp drain based on voltage and battery cutoff. "Safe" regulated devices thus aren't as safe as we'd believe.

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They are also highly unlikely to explode if they Briefly exceed the rated tolerance of the batteries for a short time in short bursts. Anyone exercising common sense, and responsibility recognizing the limitations of the device and batteries installed and using the device as it is intended are probably not going to have a problem.

Joyetech sold this as a 150w device and removed some of the limiting software to allow greater performance with Sony VT5s but anyone using a 150w device with 10a batteries at 200w constantly because they have to prove they have a bigger private part than anyone else around deserves to have it blow up and take them out of the gene pool!

Just my unsolicited 2 cents!
 
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You mean American money is worth more then Canadian again. Last time I was up there it was the other way around but that was a long time ago. Everything up there cost more at that time too. $12 for a 12 pack of beer does that give you a hint of how long its been and it's only about 80 miles.
 
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