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I didn't look closely at the picture at first but uh.. I think you're right. That's definitely not filled correctly, and if it was, it's definitely a defective tank.

That said, I fill mine from the correct end, and I see the exact same sort of leak. Stems from where the cone meets the battery and spreads both directions, just as you see in his picture.

I can't tell from the picture, but I think if you filled from the top, you would know something is wrong as it wouldn't vape correctly at all would it?
 

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I don't really see that much condensation in the tank. Mine has visible droplets and still no leaks.


Look in the air slot near the cone, you can visibly see what appears to be a large sagging droplet going down into the cone area. Mine gets like that if i dont clean if for multiple fills
 

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I can't tell from the picture, but I think if you filled from the top, you would know something is wrong as it wouldn't vape correctly at all would it?

It would work but it would gurgle a lot and leak like crazy. We had a person come in this thread who was doing that and we told them bad idea!
 

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My cone is the same diameter as the battery. Yes:2c: I am filling it from the right end. The condensation in the vapor side of the tank is from the same issue as the leak. There is so much liquid it is finding its way into the vapor side. No i am not ...... I got a bad unit, I am ...... i got an old unit. There was no reason for that.
 

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My cone is the same diameter as the battery. Yes:2c: I am filling it from the right end. The condensation in the vapor side of the tank is from the same issue as the leak. There is so much liquid it is finding its way into the vapor side. No i am not ...... I got a bad unit, I am ...... i got an old unit. There was no reason for that.



I feel for you, i hope you can get reimbursed for getting a bad unit. I have the old unit myself and it still doesnt leak like that. I may get a teeny little line maybe an inch long at worst case. And at that, it only happens when the condensation really fills up the air chamber
 

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How can we determine if it is an old unit vs. new unit? I have some on order and I want to make sure they are not bad ones like Eric got.


There are cutouts in the ecig slot in the PCC so that the surface of the case does not touch the gaps on either side of the cone
 

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OK, I knew about that change but it seems like that wouldn't be enough change to prevent the kind of leaking in that picture? So the only difference is in the pcc, not the batteries/cones/cartridges?


Correct. It does stop the leak, as the issue is if there is any wetness to those little lines where the cone meets the batt/cart, then it literally wicks the liquid out
 

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Correct. It does stop the leak, as the issue is if there is any wetness to those little lines where the cone meets the batt/cart, then it literally wicks the liquid out

Oh, I guess I could see how that would happen, but then if I leave my eroll out on the table overnight, would there be leaking like this? Doesn't seem possible.

Or also, if that is the case, if I tightly wrap a paper towel on the joint, it should wick even more?
 

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I don't think it is condensation, the liquid is to to thick.
It's not condensation, it's leaking.

There are probably a number of factors involved in whether or not it will leak...
--How thin your juice is
--Variances in the width of the atomizer spike
--Variances in the width of the tank connection
--How long you leave it sitting with juice in it
--What position you leave it in when not in use
--Temperature and pressure changes
--Overfilling

This is all just common sense.

The key is to figure out your issues and work with them, if you really want to.
Or ditch it if it's not worth the hassle for you.
:)
 
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I am having trouble understanding how the small grooves stop it from leaking. I mean, I'm glad I have the one with grooves and don't have a leak, but I don't understand it. Also, the leak pictured seems like a pretty big leak. The only thing I can think of is that the tank is overfilled, but I'm sure you thought of that already.

Edited to add: If the grooves somehow stop leaks, then wouldn't it leak when I flipped it around? As soon as my eRoll charges, I open the case and flip it around. I have left it like that all night, with a full tank. I do that so it's ready to vape in the morning (I don't like to fumble with or fill tanks before a cup of coffee haha). Wouldn't I wake up to juice in the pcc if the grooves were what stopped the leak?
 
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It's not condensation, it's leaking.

There are probably a number of factors involved in whether or not it will leak...
--How thin your juice is
--Variances in the width of the atomizer spike
--Variances in the width of the tank connection
--How long you leave it sitting with juice in it
--What position you leave it in when not in use
--Temperature and pressure changes
--Overfilling

This is all just common sense.

The key is to figure out your issues and work with them, if you really want to.
Or ditch it if it's not worth the hassle for you.
:)


I have tried to figure this out. I have tried different everything . I'm $70 + into a unit that will not work.

" This is all just common sense." Wow guess I am just idiot.
 

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I have tried to figure this out. I have tried different everything . I'm $70 + into a unit that will not work.

" This is all just common sense." Wow guess I am just idiot.

I think DC2 didn't mean it that way.

It is just hard for those of us with no leaking issue to understand what is going on. We are trying to figure it out too. I really am loving the eRoll to the extent that I just ordered 2 more kits, a bunch of batteries, tanks and attys and you have me worried that maybe things are not as good overall as my experience indicates.

So, you have people who aren't having any negative issues, really loving the unit, and then there is you, kind of freaking us out.

Believe me, if my eRoll was a mess like that picture you posted, I would have no kind words for the system. Problem is, I have had no leaks AT ALL, so we are searching for why you have this issue and hope that if we throw enough stuff at you, you will have an "aha" moment and we can all go back to thinking everything is super.
 

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Oh, I guess I could see how that would happen, but then if I leave my eroll out on the table overnight, would there be leaking like this? Doesn't seem possible.

Or also, if that is the case, if I tightly wrap a paper towel on the joint, it should wick even more?


So so, in the case its moving etc, but if there's a lot of condensation in there yes you should be able to wick it out by putting something in contact with the joints.
 

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I am having trouble understanding how the small grooves stop it from leaking. I mean, I'm glad I have the one with grooves and don't have a leak, but I don't understand it. Also, the leak pictured seems like a pretty big leak. The only thing I can think of is that the tank is overfilled, but I'm sure you thought of that already.

Edited to add: If the grooves somehow stop leaks, then wouldn't it leak when I flipped it around? As soon as my eRoll charges, I open the case and flip it around. I have left it like that all night, with a full tank. I do that so it's ready to vape in the morning (I don't like to fumble with or fill tanks before a cup of coffee haha). Wouldn't I wake up to juice in the pcc if the grooves were what stopped the leak?

You really need a lot of condensation to prompt the case wicking issue. If you flip it yes you would create contact and wick. If you have a nice clean inner cone its not going to leak, period. If you vape lightly no issue. Ill chain sometimes and it gets drenched inside. So I think a lot of the issue is dependent on how you use it.
 

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You really need a lot of condensation to prompt the case wicking issue. If you flip it yes you would create contact and wick. If you have a nice clean inner cone its not going to leak, period. If you vape lightly no issue. Ill chain sometimes and it gets drenched inside. So I think a lot of the issue is dependent on how you use it.

I vape this thing all day. I use two batteries and fill each tank at least 6 times each day, sometimes a lot more. I chain vape for a lot of that time. But I am doing this mostly with a 50/50 thick juice. So maybe that's why I'm not getting any leaks when it's flipped around and making contact with the case.
 

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Oh, now I see what you mean by notches on the PCC - on the lid. Ok. Yes, mine has that. If my eRoll leaked like Eric's - i would have just gone back to straight smoking. I'm frustrated as hell by the juice as it is. As far as leak vs. condensation - to me, they look different, and, as liquid, feel different. Once it's on your hands and dry/dried off tho, the feel is very similar, if not the same. I could be wrong, but it seems I get more condensation built up when I've changed elevation by at least 500 feet. Probably closer to 1,000.
 

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Why does everybody keep saying that condensation is juice? Its not. Its water vapor that has come out of solution from the atmosphere due to temperature delta. When you walk out of an air conditioned room into the summer heat and your glasses fog up is that juice? Lol.

His tank looks like it has juice where the juice belongs, not filled incorrectly. I think this is simply a defective unit.

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