JOYETECH ERoll

[EricDykstra]

I'm sorry that's what you took from my post.

Ok maybe i did take that a little wrong. Its just starting to bug me that people are assuming that I am doing some thing wrong.

I am on the last option which return the product. My unit is bad. I have tried everything possible. 7 tanks,2 cone,2 battery, 4 atomizers,heavy viscosity liquid, medium viscosity liquid, light fill, topping it off, filling the tank as I use it, prefilling the the tanks,charging in an upright position, charging while it is laying flat,storing in the upright position, storing it flat, storing upside down, charging with case open, charging with case closed, charging with case on its side, the list goes on and on.

I think the problem is with the pcc or the battery. Charging the battery causes the unit to wick the liquid from the tank, causing a build up until it leaks out at the joint of the cone and battery. With a brand new empty cartomizer and full tank it does not leak.

 

[Xaria]

It's obvious Eric has a kit that is older edition than the ones we are using it seems. Besides the slots, what are the other differences? Does your cone notch then turn to lock? I am wondering if this maybe another revision. There was an emini from Ovale that came out before the eroll, it had no slots. I am just wondering if its a rebranded unit.

Edit..hate my autocorrect.

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[unloaded]

Hope I didn't offend you asking which end you filled. Just trying to eliminate all possible causes. I don't know why charging would cause it to leak, unless the PCC battery or circuit is heating up below the tank and causing juice to expand. Have you checked the whole thing for hotspots while its charging?

 

[Bookworm]

Eric how do you fill the tank? Do you drip into the hole, use a needle tip, or take off the top and fill? And how much do you fill it? All the way to the top? I'm just throwing stuff out there to see if we can find a possible reason, btw. I'm in no implying that you are doing anything wrong.

 

[EricDykstra]

My cone does have the notch. The battery does get warm when charging, but not hot. I have used all 3 fill options, and 3 different tanks.

 

[junkman]

My cone does have the notch. The battery does get warm when charging, but not hot. I have used all 3 fill options, and 3 different tanks.

That is what is bothering me is that you have tried different batteries, different tanks, different atomizers, different cones, and all are causing problems.

That makes it hard to understand what is defective, as it sounds like multiple samples of everything are defective. I just don't want to believe that the manufacturing is that bad that all of your stuff is defective, and yet none of mine is.

Maybe it is a change in manufacture that isn't evident visually, but hopefully they have fixed whatever was wrong.

 

[Bookworm]

This is all bothering me, too. There is no way you got all the bad items and everyone else got all the good items. Very frustrating, I'm sure. It stinks that you are having this issue.

Just from my experience with the ego c tanks, I would never take the top off to fill. They always seem to leak after that. But that's just me, and I haven't tried with the eroll.

 

[KrasH]

I never had any leaks with mine. It worked flawlessly for me or I would not be looking to get another one. So if any of you are putting yours in the classys please let us know.

 

[EricDykstra]

That is what is bothering me is that you have tried different batteries, different tanks, different atomizers, different cones, and all are causing problems.

That makes it hard to understand what is defective, as it sounds like multiple samples of everything are defective. I just don't want to believe that the manufacturing is that bad that all of your stuff is defective, and yet none of mine is.

Maybe it is a change in manufacture that isn't evident visually, but hopefully they have fixed whatever was wrong.

I agree that's why the issue has to be the pcc. That is the only variable I did not change.

 

[-iD]

I had a new tank that was bad yesterday. Flooded the atty immediately, gurgled like the most overfilled carto you ever heard. Still didn't create this volume of juice on the outside of the unit. And while I'm sure if the design was changed this early Joye must have felt it was an important improvement, this is really the first time I've read of disastrous failure like in your pix, so I don't believe it is JUST design related, even if the older design contributes to the problem, at the root this seems clearly to me to be some defect.

If I leave the same tank in use non stop, after a week I've collected enough juice in the air chambers to impede the airflow a bit, but its much much less than what's on the outside of this pic.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

 

[volume control]

Why does everybody keep saying that condensation is juice? Its not. Its water vapor that has come out of solution from the atmosphere due to temperature delta. When you walk out of an air conditioned room into the summer heat and your glasses fog up is that juice? Lol.

His tank looks like it has juice where the juice belongs, not filled incorrectly. I think this is simply a defective unit.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

Ok its vapor that returns to its liquid form, idk what its called, just liquid i guess right =)

 

[volume control]

I had a new tank that was bad yesterday. Flooded the atty immediately, gurgled like the most overfilled carto you ever heard. Still didn't create this volume of juice on the outside of the unit. And while I'm sure if the design was changed this early Joye must have felt it was an important improvement, this is really the first time I've read of disastrous failure like in your pix, so I don't believe it is JUST design related, even if the older design contributes to the problem, at the root this seems clearly to me to be some defect.

If I leave the same tank in use non stop, after a week I've collected enough juice in the air chambers to impede the airflow a bit, but its much much less than what's on the outside of this pic.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

I do wonder if his is firing in the case and creating all that buildup. Ive had mine fire one time in the case and there was vapor coming out when i opened it. Just another thought

But yes, i do view his as defective, especially since my case is not slotted to prevent the case from wicking. Some people arent quite understanding, but wet is attracted to dry like positive attracts negative in electricity. This is why liquids wick in our ecigs, in candles,e tc. As the wetness is dried from the tip or cooked from the tip of a wick, it causes the water to pick up. Also if you were to dip a towel in water, the water would seemingly defy gravity and creep up the towel!

 

[four2109]

Erik, Did you say your battery doesn't have a notch for the dimple on the cone to lock into?
Does your cone have the dimple?
Does your battery have a side hole?
Does your pcc have grooves where the seems are? (Mine do and I ordered them in January.)

I have 3. If I roll the seams lightly up my fingertip, I get a light line of liquid on my finger prints from the cart/cone seam only. There is no liquid visible on the seam.
This doesn't really suprise me because I don't wipe the cart off when I refill and I don't rinse the cone unless I'm cleaning the head.
I have occasionally had a thin line of liquid(I tasted it) wick along the length of the device if I leave it lay on the table overnight OUT of the charger.
Nothing like what you are getting though.

I'm wondering if there was an early run.

 

[EricDykstra]

Erik, Did you say your battery doesn't have a notch for the dimple on the cone to lock into?
Does your cone have the dimple?
Does your battery have a side hole?
Does your pcc have grooves where the seems are? (Mine do and I ordered them in January.)

I have 3. If I roll the seams lightly up my fingertip, I get a light line of liquid on my finger prints from the cart/cone seam only. There is no liquid visible on the seam.
This doesn't really suprise me because I don't wipe the cart off when I refill and I don't rinse the cone unless I'm cleaning the head.
I have occasionally had a thin line of liquid(I tasted it) wick along the length of the device if I leave it lay on the table overnight OUT of the charger.
Nothing like what you are getting though.

I'm wondering if there was an early run.

My battery has the notch for for the dimple.
My battery does have a side hole
My PCC does NOT have grooves.

I have figured out that if the pcc is plugged in to charge and I charge the cigarette battery the problem is worse.

 

[-iD]

My battery has the notch for for the dimple.
My battery does have a side hole
My PCC does NOT have grooves.

I have figured out that if the pcc is plugged in to charge and I charge the cigarette battery the problem is worse.

You need to either get a warranty exchange or chalk it up to a crummy vendor if they won't help you, but your experience with the eRoll is an anomaly. I'm sorry, you got a lemon.

tap'd on my Google Galaxy Nexus

 

[Standpoint]

I have an atty/cartridge combo that will cause a leak as described when in the PCC. In my case, I took the atty apart to clean it, and when I put the wicking part of it back on there is a microscopic bit of it sticking out of the base, like I couldn't put the part back on all the way. I have a cartridge that is showing age, and the combination of the two does not make as good a seal on the tank, so when sitting in the PCC a bit will leak out between the cover and the battery.

 

[dragonbone]

My battery has the notch for for the dimple.
My battery does have a side hole
My PCC does NOT have grooves.

I have figured out that if the pcc is plugged in to charge and I charge the cigarette battery the problem is worse.

Could you show us a pic of the inside of your PCC please? Also a pic of the bottom side of your tank. (I want to see how big the hole is.)

I am having difficulties understanding what your problem could be. I am using the same tank, battery etc. since I got my eRoll several months ago. I have only changed to a new atty once. Not a single, tiny, micro leak. Bone dry. Not even if I shake my full tank upside down can I get any ejuice to escape. The viscosity makes for drops that are slightly too big, to easily leak out of the small atty hole.

 

[junkman]

The Altoids tin on the left holds four tanks, but it is a very tight fit.
They are hard to get in, and even harder to get out.

The one on the right is a pill box I got for about $1.00 at Walgreen's...

I picked up two of these little pill boxes at walgreens yesterday. 2 for $1.79 They fit 3 carts pefectly. I wish they made one 2x as long to hold 6 but these will work very well until I find a perfect solution.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[Pepo]

My battery has the notch for for the dimple.
My battery does have a side hole
My PCC does NOT have grooves.

I have figured out that if the pcc is plugged in to charge and I charge the cigarette battery the problem is worse.

Its funny that you PCC doesn't have grooves. Mine is four months old, and still have they. If your eroll only leak when it's in the PCC, that might be the reason.

 

[EricDykstra]

Could you show us a pic of the inside of your PCC please? Also a pic of the bottom side of your tank. (I want to see how big the hole is.)

I am having difficulties understanding what your problem could be. I am using the same tank, battery etc. since I got my eRoll several months ago. I have only changed to a new atty once. Not a single, tiny, micro leak. Bone dry. Not even if I shake my full tank upside down can I get any ejuice to escape. The viscosity makes for drops that are slightly too big, to easily leak out of the small atty hole.

I also am having difficulties understand what the problem is.


I can shake a full tank upside down and get no juice