Did they say how the PCC is causing it? I just can't wrap my head around that one.
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Did they say how the PCC is causing it? I just can't wrap my head around that one.
Not sure, still thinking about. I want to, but I feel like I am rolling the dice here.
"Did they say how the PCC is causing it? I just can't wrap my head around that one."
No I that is all I got. I agree, I think the notches are extra precaution. I think it had more to do with voltage regulation to the charging battery.
No I that is all I got. I agree, I think the notches are extra precaution. I think it had more to do with voltage regulation to the charging battery.
Well, I should get 2 more units tomorrow or monday. If neither of those leak, I would say the one you got is a fluke. If one or both leak, then it is a crap shoot.
288245718021 And yes the scratch off does work, i checked mine.
just go to joyetech website
just go to joyetech website
The store owner just e-mailed me. He has black with the notches. I asked him to test the unit out. If it does not leak then he will be sending it to me.
I mean how does it work? How is it preventing a counterfeit? Couldnt someone just use all the same numbers?
You know if youre the one who scratches it off, youre the only one with that number!
Couldn't the counterfeiter just use the same number though?
You could test it. Clean it up, then fill it and use it a little so it is primed to leak like it does. Then set it across two erasers or something, like a bridge, so that nothing is touching either seam, and leave it overnight. If there's no puddle, then it's reasonable to think the contact with the PCC is related. If it leaks anyway, then it's something else.
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Mine is an early one without the notches (ordered from China before the JOYE-branded ones were here in the US) and it only leaks when placed in the PCC. If I rest it in the PCC like it's an ashtray, it will never leak.
When you enter the scratch off number it will give your upc code on the box. Yes they could buy a one starter kit and get a scratch off code and get someone to duplicate the sticker on the box. The thing is,as a counterfeiter that is a lot of capitol to put into it for $50 items. Impossible no. I have seen it in the wine world, and most counterfeiters won't touch anything under $100. If joyetech see 10 people trying to use the same code, all they have to do is make that code inactive.
I know its pcc related. I have left it out overnight with the unit leaking just a little. In the pcc it leaks a ton. The question is if the pcc is firing the battery cause wicking, or if the case itself is causing the leaking. I got another e-mail from the store owner:
"From what JOYE said there is nothing different between the old version and new version except these notches.
I do think I know why it helps. Not sure you ever used a tent in rain but a tent can repell rain, but if the cover is touching the tent the rain goes through the material. The idea of the notches is to keep the cone and battery connection from touching the PCC. When it doesn't touch it doesn't leak."
So basically they have a database of all these stickers which ties the two codes together.
But, given that if they are counterfeiting these to pass all but that code, they have gone through a much tougher task than that scratch sticker.
I guess what I am saying is that having seen an original, and the original packaging, that scratch sticker isn't much of a hurdle.
I suppose if they start getting a bunch of people checking the same code, it would be a give away, but I don't know how many people actually check that, and they could implement the same thing with just having you enter the serial code? So that is my confusion. What additional protection does it provide?
I did notice the site had a list of vendors selling counterfeits and unauthorized vendors. Makes for an interesting browse.
Chinese knock-offs are much simpler than you guys are even imagining. They just print off the codes as well when they reject parts. The company that sent the design to production doesn't really have any idea what's good and what's not beyond what the factory reports to them.
The hologram stickers are counterfeited (read: produced in excess without the product designer knowing) all the time in China. Vendors on the streets will even sell them to you at additional cost if they think you're planning on reselling the product, as it makes it look more official.
Making something look official is really easy when you run the factory across the street that makes the official product.
The hologram stickers are counterfeited (read: produced in excess without the product designer knowing) all the time in China. Vendors on the streets will even sell them to you at additional cost if they think you're planning on reselling the product, as it makes it look more official.
Making something look official is really easy when you run the factory across the street that makes the official product.
I agree its not that hard to do, but we are not talking about something that expensive. It makes it a lot less lucrative to when you are talking about a profit margin of maybe $20. Adding the scratch off code is a step to make it a little more difficult to do. Its a step in the right direction. The real truth is there is no perfect system to ensure that anything is really authentic. Bottom line: does the product work for you as it should. There is the ultimate test, real or fake.
They do it for $20 (our price) SD cards, so I imagine it happens for this stuff too.
The scratch code isn't an extra step. It's produced at the same time as the part. The extra step is discarding it. It's cheaper to keep it and just re-reroute it than it is to throw it away ultimately.
The scratch code isn't an extra step. It's produced at the same time as the part. The extra step is discarding it. It's cheaper to keep it and just re-reroute it than it is to throw it away ultimately.
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