Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

[niterider]

The point is that you shouldn't have to adapt to the device (whether setting a temperature that's 70 degrees offset or perhaps having to reseat your atomizer occasionally to get an accurate resistance base line) but it should adapt to you and suit varying styles of vaping- -especially a device like this that's geared towards beginners.

There shouldn't have to be tricks you have to learn to get the device to function as advertised.

I have to disagree. This device is not geared towards beginners.

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[BNEAT]

I have to disagree. This device is not geared towards beginners.

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It may not be geared towards beginners, but the kit is certainly packaged with beginners in mind.

 

[BNEAT]

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If you consider how many people are complaining (some without even using it) and how many units have been sold (bunches) I would have to say those experiencing problems may not be as numerous (although more vocal) than those who have learned to dial it in for a satisfactory vape... some of those dissatisfied consumers have actually come back to say they found the problem not in the VT but in their atty/coil.

As with all purchases, you really shouldn't purchase until you feel comfortable with it and are willing to spend some time sorting out any TC issues and experimenting to find your best vape... take your time - TC is here to stay (till the next new tech is here anyway.)

I'm not having a problem with locking in the resistance, the warming up the cold coil, or the performance of the device. Granted, the eGo One coils are juice starved, but they fixed the airflow. Not every atty works properly on it, but some things are a tradeoff - advanced devices have certain requirements and not all attys will fill the bill on all devices. Even experienced coil builders sometimes have to go back and fix their coils - it happens. I'm happy with my VT and many others are too.

I couldn't agree more...and I'm one of the few with a unit that's having issues!

 

[JeremyR]

The point is that you shouldn't have to adapt to the device (whether setting a temperature that's 70 degrees offset or perhaps having to reseat your atomizer occasionally to get an accurate resistance base line) but it should adapt to you and suit varying styles of vaping- -especially a device like this that's geared towards beginners.

There shouldn't have to be tricks you have to learn to get the device to function as advertised.

I don't know how long you've been vaping but its always been this way. Unless you get older, ironed, tech and spend hundreds of dollars.

There is not a single thing in vaping that doesn't take tricks to make it work well that I know of. Even ciglikes and egos you need to know things or you won't be happy. Ce4 omg what a nightmare.

It's something you get used to in this newer and growing industry.

 

[damped]

Me too, It's not working like it should/advertised.
I don't use kanthal anymore, I'm allergic for ni200,the main reason I bought the VT was the availability of Ti settings on the device, pity that just just the settings of Ti are not right and with no chance for a upgrade (big bummer).
I think JT must give us a solution, I'm getting bored used as a beta tester when I buy a new released device, I paid 80 euro for it (only the mod) may I aspect it works like advertised ?

@JeremyR
I don't know how long you've been vaping but its always been this way. Unless you get older, ironed, tech and spend hundreds of dollars.
It's something you get used to in this newer and growing industry.

I'm aware of that but It's not that we must accept or get used to it, I want to rely on the specs and possibility's a device can handle as advertised if not It's a problem for the manufacturer and not for the buyers, do your homework I want to say to them before releasing.

 

[Teach]

The point is that you shouldn't have to adapt to the device (whether setting a temperature that's 70 degrees offset or perhaps having to reseat your atomizer occasionally to get an accurate resistance base line) but it should adapt to you and suit varying styles of vaping- -especially a device like this that's geared towards beginners.

There shouldn't have to be tricks you have to learn to get the device to function as advertised.

Yeah, well... After 5 years I can't say that I've done much more than adapt (and learn) after every switch to a new tech... [emoji4]

 

[tehmidcap]

I don't know how long you've been vaping but its always been this way. Unless you get older, ironed, tech and spend hundreds of dollars.

There is not a single thing in vaping that doesn't take tricks to make it work well that I know of. Even ciglikes and egos you need to know things or you won't be happy. Ce4 omg what a nightmare.

It's something you get used to in this newer and growing industry.

Most of the regulated mods I use operate as designed. No having to unscrew the atomizer half a turn or actually putting it on 20 watts when I actually like 10 watts.

People may have complaints about the ipv4 but the yihi chip Tc works like q dream. Lock resistance once and you can vape it on for three days straight without changing a thing or needing to remove the atomizer or anything like that (and with 3 different rtas I can leave the temp and joules the same and just lock New resistance and vape on).

I made the mistake of pre ordering an ehpro that had similar problems to this only worse... I COULD get Tc to function but it varied build by build and required constantly reseating the atomizer when cold to reregister the resistance--I stopped using it after about 5 days. I could've tried to rationalize the purchase of a flawed device, instead I got something better (not saying that the evic vt is as flawed).

 

[aldenf]

Me too, It's not working like it should/advertised.
I don't use kanthal anymore, I'm allergic for ni200,the main reason I bought the VT was the availability of Ti settings on the device, pity that just just the settings of Ti are not right and with no chance for a upgrade (big bummer).
I think JT must give us a solution, I'm getting bored used as a beta tester when I buy a new released device, I paid 80 euro for it (only the mod) may I aspect it works like advertised ?

@JeremyR
I don't know how long you've been vaping but its always been this way. Unless you get older, ironed, tech and spend hundreds of dollars.
It's something you get used to in this newer and growing industry.

I'm aware of that but It's not that we must accept or get used to it, I want to rely on the specs and possibility's a device can handle as advertised if not It's a problem for the manufacturer and not for the buyers, do your homework I want to say to them before releasing.

I couldn't agree with you more. If we could simply trust a manufacturer's specs and device to perform as intended, we wouldn't need to wait for reviewer's opinions or have to be masochistic beta testers. However, working all the kinks out of a device takes time, especially if it contains new-to-vaping technology. If we're happy waiting 12-18 months for new devices, we could purchase reliable new devices at probably 50% greater cost. If, however, we like this new every few months cadence we've been experiencing, vapers will continue to have to pay to be beta testers.

What I truly don't understand is why Joyetech, after pioneering the concept, failed to spend a few extra dollars to make the VT's firmware user upgradeable. It would have made everyone's lives so much easier. This can be looked at as either added value or simply a reward to early adopters for being beta testers. After being burned a couple of times on inexpensive devices, I will no longer be an early adopter of devices that are not user upgradeable, cheap or expensive.

 

[Msand]

Here is a quick review of my experiences so far with the VT. I have only had it since last Monday, so still trying to figure everything out. This is also my first TC device. The RTA I have been using is the Goliath. It has a silver center pin. It also has the smallest build deck of any RTAs out. All of my builds have been with 26g Ti wire. I started out with an 8 wrap 2mm dual coil. I believe it came out to right around .1ohm. Sorry I do not remember 100%, since it last about 5 minutes in the tank. It was hard to get the top section of the tank on, and it seemed like to many coils where not over the air hole. Just not a good fit for the Goliath. Next coil was a 6 wrap 2mm dual coil that did come out to be .1ohm. The build worked great. I used it for a day, but I thought I could get more flavor, so I went ahead and tried a 3rd coil in the RTA. This one was a 7/6 wrap dual coil @ 3mm. it came in at .12ohms. Was working great for about an hour. Then I started to get the ohm fluctuation thing happening. All of a sudden it switched to .1ohms. I did the: unlock resistance >> turn of >> turn on (without RTA) >> hit fire button to rest ohms to 0 >> turn off >> replace RTA and turn back on. Back to .12ohms. Locked resistance in. vapped happily for about 20minutes. Then back to .1ohms. Did same process again and now it read .11ohms. I checked the screws on the build. They were tight. That had to be good enough, because I had to leave. While on my 2 hour car ride. It fluctuated back down to .1 then back to .11. Then seemed to settle finally at .11. This all happened while I had it still locked at .12ohms. When I got home I rebuilt again. I was going to anyways. The 3mm coil was just way too big. The tank was heating up to the point it was heating the VT up. Not good! 4th build. 6/5 wrap 2mm dual coil @ .09ohms. That one has been locked in and not fluctuating for about 12 hours now. Not the best for flavor. I will more than likely rebuild it again tonight. Just wanted to let everyone know that I had one coil build so far that was fluctuating. All other builds have been rock solid on this RTA.

 

[mc8]

Just to even the field a bit; 3 weeks or so, working flawlessly with ni and ti builds on lemo 2 and derringer clone. I was rebuilding my attys every day with kanthal, now i do it every 5 days.
I don't really care if my set temp @210-230 degrees is wrong by 100 or more, i just like it there, and never got a dry hit.
Maybe I'm just lucky and have to knock on wood, but I'm a happy vaper now.
I just find it sad, that many vapers won't experience what i do atm, because they read bad reviews from 5 people. Yes, busardo gave it a thumbs down, but i believe he is the only youtube reviewer that feels that way. Everybody else seems to love it.
Anyhow, to all the newbies out there, believe me, you'll never buy anything, if you'll focus on a couple bad reviews here. I'm sure vt v2 also won't be perfect
Also, i really don't get why anyone would buy such device do vape at 7w? Wouldn't an ego battery make more sense for such vaping style?

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[aldenf]

Here is a quick review of my experiences so far with the VT. I have only had it since last Monday, so still trying to figure everything out. This is also my first TC device. The RTA I have been using is the Goliath. It has a silver center pin. It also has the smallest build deck of any RTAs out. All of my builds have been with 26g Ti wire. I started out with an 8 wrap 2mm dual coil. I believe it came out to right around .1ohm. Sorry I do not remember 100%, since it last about 5 minutes in the tank. It was hard to get the top section of the tank on, and it seemed like to many coils where not over the air hole. Just not a good fit for the Goliath. Next coil was a 6 wrap 2mm dual coil that did come out to be .1ohm. The build worked great. I used it for a day, but I thought I could get more flavor, so I went ahead and tried a 3rd coil in the RTA. This one was a 7/6 wrap dual coil @ 3mm. it came in at .12ohms. Was working great for about an hour. Then I started to get the ohm fluctuation thing happening. All of a sudden it switched to .1ohms. I did the: unlock resistance >> turn of >> turn on (without RTA) >> hit fire button to rest ohms to 0 >> turn off >> replace RTA and turn back on. Back to .12ohms. Locked resistance in. vapped happily for about 20minutes. Then back to .1ohms. Did same process again and now it read .11ohms. I checked the screws on the build. They were tight. That had to be good enough, because I had to leave. While on my 2 hour car ride. It fluctuated back down to .1 then back to .11. Then seemed to settle finally at .11. This all happened while I had it still locked at .12ohms. When I got home I rebuilt again. I was going to anyways. The 3mm coil was just way too big. The tank was heating up to the point it was heating the VT up. Not good! 4th build. 6/5 wrap 2mm dual coil @ .09ohms. That one has been locked in and not fluctuating for about 12 hours now. Not the best for flavor. I will more than likely rebuild it again tonight. Just wanted to let everyone know that I had one coil build so far that was fluctuating. All other builds have been rock solid on this RTA.

Can you share whether all the builds you attempted were contact or spaced coils? Thanks!

 

[tchavei]

I agree.

If someone wants to vape at 7w, all he has to do is take a weak puff... The VT will lower the watts and kick temp protection... You don't have to worry anymore taking big draws to keep the coil cooled... The mod with adjust power by itself.

Regards
Tony

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[tchavei]

PS: I just vaped at 8.8w on my VT and erlprinz... Just take a tootle puff and it's fine.

Regards
Tony

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[Msand]

Can you share whether all the builds you attempted were contact or spaced coils? Thanks!

Sorry forgot about that. All were spaced coils.

 

[aldenf]

Just to even the field a bit; 3 weeks or so, working flawlessly with ni and ti builds on lemo 2 and derringer clone. I was rebuilding my attys every day with kanthal, now i do it every 5 days.
I don't really care if my set temp @210-230 degrees is wrong by 100 or more, i just like it there, and never got a dry hit.
Maybe I'm just lucky and have to knock on wood, but I'm a happy vaper now.
I just find it sad, that many vapers won't experience what i do atm, because they read bad reviews from 5 people. Yes, busardo gave it a thumbs down, but i believe he is the only youtube reviewer that feels that way. Everybody else seems to love it.
Anyhow, to all the newbies out there, believe me, you'll never buy anything, if you'll focus on a couple bad reviews here. I'm sure vt v2 also won't be perfect
Also, i really don't get why anyone would buy such device do vape at 7w? Wouldn't an ego battery make more sense for such vaping style?

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I believe that TC is ideal for low wattage vapers. Have you ever experienced a dry or burnt hit on an EVOD, ProTank or Nautilus? I personally have not experienced a dry or burnt hit for many months now, running RTAs @ 13-18W or RDAs up to 25W. Maybe I've finally figured out the correct builds for my attys. (!!) I also notice the sudden drop-off of flavor/vapor when I run out of juice, long before I experience any dry or burnt hits. (Thank you, Rayon and JeremyR!) If we learn how to build them correctly and utilize our devices within their intended parameters, TC becomes less of a necessity and more of a toy.

TC is ideal for protecting vapers:

1. against the limitations of early, inexpensive equipment.
2. against manufacturers' inconsistencies.
3. against the early stages of rebuilding.
4. against overpowering devices not intended for the power we ask them to handle today (most single coil RTAs).
5. against themselves.

Until we see the results of Dr. Farsalinos' latest study, informing us at what temperature e-liquid breaks down into bad stuff, all we can use TC for is avoiding the hot, nasty extreme and adjusting to taste. Both of these things can be accomplished by learning how to use our non-TC gear correctly. Hopefully, a solid, reliable, mostly idiot-proof temperature technology will surface by the time Dr. Farsalinos releases his results.

 

[Stosh]

I didn't have any ni200 wire or a bunch of spare coils when I got my VT. It's worked quite well with the eGo mega one with 50/50 eliquid (my normal preference).

I've used it a lot with my Orchids coiled with kanthral in the 1.5Ω range, hitting them in the 9 watt range. The 30 watt pulse scare has not been any problem whatsoever. My coils last as long as they ever have, no burning, no bad tastes, no burnt wicks.

I've since bought some ni200 wire and have found it works very well for dripping, which always seemed to cause too many burnt hits for me to fully enjoy. Even a ni200 coil at 0.14Ω on a old IGO-W (with the air hole drilled) is a pleasure to use with TC, and on my evic VT no less.

 

[tchavei]

I believe that TC is ideal for low wattage vapers. Have you ever experienced a dry or burnt hit on an EVOD, ProTank or Nautilus? I personally have not experienced a dry or burnt hit for many months now, running RTAs @ 13-18W or RDAs up to 25W. Maybe I've finally figured out the correct builds for my attys. (!!) I also notice the sudden drop-off of flavor/vapor when I run out of juice, long before I experience any dry or burnt hits. (Thank you, Rayon and JeremyR!) If we learn how to build them correctly and utilize our devices within their intended parameters, TC becomes less of a necessity and more of a toy.

TC is ideal for protecting vapers:

1. against the limitations of early, inexpensive equipment.
2. against manufacturers' inconsistencies.
3. against the early stages of rebuilding.
4. against overpowering devices not intended for the power we ask them to handle today (most single coil RTAs).
5. against themselves.

Until we see the results of Dr. Farsalinos' latest study, informing us at what temperature e-liquid breaks down into bad stuff, all we can use TC for is avoiding the hot, nasty extreme and adjusting to taste. Both of these things can be accomplished by learning how to use our non-TC gear correctly. Hopefully, a solid, reliable, mostly idiot-proof temperature technology will surface by the time Dr. Farsalinos releases his results.

TC is also great for guys like me who don't spend half day looking at their juice levels to avoid running out of juice.

You might be very conscious of your act of vaping but I'm not. I just puffy away while I work, relax, drive, etc. and I'm known for sucking on a dry tank for over half an hour before realizing there is no more juice inside

TC is great for me.

Regards
Tony

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[BNEAT]

TC is also great for guys like me who don't spend half day looking at their juice levels to avoid running out of juice.

You might be very conscious of your act of vaping but I'm not. I just puffy away while I work, relax, drive, etc. and I'm known for sucking on a dry tank for over half an hour before realizing there is no more juice inside

TC is great for me.

Regards
Tony

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My ADV Kayfun has a SS tank on it now. I don't refill until TC tells me too...unless it's in my eVic, then a nice scorched Rayon hit reminds me to fill-er-up

 

[tchavei]

My ADV Kayfun has a SS tank on it now. I don't refill until TC tells me too...unless it's in my eVic, then a nice scorched Rayon hit reminds me to fill-er-up

Really? My VT doesn't scorch my rayon ever. Same as my dna. Well maybe not as precise but still no scorching. Maybe I'm lucky.

Regards
Tony

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[puddinman]

Wellp,I found the express kit and just got it in today. Been using it and I think it works pretty well with my Delta II and ni200. Loving it so far with no issues. Will report anything I find...