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CoughingBad

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Am i the only one who has this issue? Or dont know how to fix or prevent?

I have an aspire nautilus tank and vape 80/20. My juice tastes good with new coil but after a day or less the juice will become dark and not taste as good.

Is it my tank? But i think even with previous tanks same thing. And i use different juices from different suppliers but same result.

Any suggestions or advices?


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That's no problem at all, it is because the nicotine oxidates, which ist not an issue or quality loss. There is only very, very few strength lost due to this reaction. Just vape on and enjoy!
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it is actually normal for your juice to get darker. mine does and I just assume that it is caused by the coil heating the juice. Some is vaped and some is left behind by being crystallized onto the heating coil and mixes with the juice still in your tank. when I refill and my juice darkens quickly I know it is time to change my coil because it has now built up enough burnt juice to cause the fresh juice to darken quickly thus giving my flavors an unpleasant flavor.
 

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The e-Liquid getting dark and tasting bad can also be caused by firing the coils over the recommended wattage and burning the cotton. I doubt it is just normal color changing because I have had e-Liquids get so dark over time that it was truly surprising to see but they tasted even better. Just my thoughts on the matter and some personal observations.

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The e-Liquid getting dark and tasting bad can also be caused by firing the coils over the recommended wattage and burning the cotton. I doubt it is just normal color changing because I have had e-Liquids get so dark over time that it was truly surprising to see but they tasted even better. Just my thoughts on the matter and some personal observations.

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I agree...

OP, you said your juice is 80/20, is that 80VG/20PG? High VG juices don't work well with that tank/coil combo. If you push the wattage you're probably burning cotton and juice on the coil and what is left weeps back into the tank.

That tank/coil combo works best with 50/50 or higher PG juices.
 

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Am i the only one who has this issue? Or dont know how to fix or prevent?

I have an aspire nautilus tank and vape 80/20. My juice tastes good with new coil but after a day or less the juice will become dark and not taste as good.

Is it my tank? But i think even with previous tanks same thing. And i use different juices from different suppliers but same result.

Any suggestions or advices?


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Two things makes Juice go dark.

Light and heat.

You msy need to lower the watts.
 
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My first thought is you are burning your juice cause you maybe running it too hot. Newer vapers, myself included at one time, do this in search of the throat hit but the equipment cant handle it and slowly burns the juice. You might try dialing it down for a day or two and see how it works out.
 
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I usually vape at around 3.8 and i think thats pretty low. And this issue is across many different batteries i have used and they all are set about the same.


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With high VG juice in that tank you can thin it with 2-4 drops of distilled water. This will help it wick better and not burn. You can also do the thinning with a couple drops of high proof vodka which will thin the juice and add throat hit.
 

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What's going in is that you have crappy liquid with too much sweetener in it. The heat from the coil is caramelizing it, thus the change in colour and flavour.

It's not the VG/PG, it's not oxidation.

It's simply the liquid getting too hot and doing this due to the design of the tank/coils, which results in eventually gunking up your coil/wick, and burning them bit by bit, giving you that delightful change in flavour. Trouble is, once it starts (this caramelization and gunking) it gets worse fairly fast.

Note that the Nautilus tank is really bad for this simply because, even though it's a well liked tank for some reason that boggles me, in my opinion it's a crappy tank. My wife and daughter got some because the store recommended them so highly. I never liked them, and part of it was because they would do this to a lot of liquids (which meant a lot of emptying of tanks and coils having to be changed). I stuck with other tanks while they used theirs as they didn't want to "waste" the purchase of it, until I got into sub-ohming, which once they tried my new tank/kit (at the time), they both switched and the Nautilus tanks went into a drawer and it's never seen the light of day since.

Depending on what you had as previous tanks, you probably had some that did the same issue with too much heat transferring to the liquids you're using, simply bad heat dissipation.

Since getting better tanks, I've never seen this happen again, and that's including with tanks that can get so hot that you could burn yourself on them, but that's because the heat is being pulled out via the metal instead of using the liquid as the "coolant" as per what some tanks like the Nautilus does, which it terrible for it.
 
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I hear about sub ohm tanks but honestly havent used it because i am not too clear what exactly it is, the difference between it and my nautilus, usage wise. I mean, for some reason it sounds like its very different and i have to learn how to use it, that true?

Which is the sub ohm tank you use and recommend? If switching to it means no more dark juice and less phlegm i will seriously consider switching [emoji4]


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What's going in is that you have crappy liquid with too much sweetener in it. The heat from the coil is caramelizing it, thus the change in colour and flavour.

It's not the VG/PG, it's not oxidation.
^^ This is what I've found is the biggest offender to darkening liquid. More flavor generally just leads to more gunking and darker liquid. Regardless of MTL above ohm builds or subohm builds its the flavors/sweeteners that lead to having to change/cleaning coils more often. I've switched to unflavored liquid for the past 6 months or so just because I got fed up with building an awesome coil and having to change it up 2 days in no matter how great it was functioning. I can get almost a week or more out of a coil now and then I'll get bored and drip a couple drops of some flavored juice on it to switch it up.. 2 days or less later I'll be dry burning that sucker because even running unflavored through it exclusively the couple of drops of flavor just seemed to stick around and eventually start the gunk and burning taste. This is running a Subtank at .5 SS with TC. Flavor is great I gotta say but it'll lead to more work in the long run. IME anyways.
 

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I mouth to lung vape (as I would do if I was smoking a cigarette)

I change my wick about every 3 tank-fulls of juice (when the juice starts getting a darker color).

However, as long as I dry burn the coil every time prior to installing a new cotton wick, my home-made coil can last at least a month or more ... Actually, I think the coil would last much longer than 1 month
 
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Kayfun Lite-Plus V2 atomizer
Home-made 1.4 ohm Kanthal single coil
11.5 watts of power (pretty low power)
Japanese cotton wick
Home-made 60% VG / 40% PG juice - 15mg Nic
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I mouth to lung vape (as I would do if I was smoking a cigarette)

I change my wick about every 3 tank-fulls of juice (when the juice starts getting a darker color).

However, as long as I dry burn the coil every time prior to installing a new cotton wick, my home-made coil can last at least a month or more ... Actually, I think the coil would last much longer than 1 month
I Dry burn my coils, and they last 2 1/2-3 months

Do NOT Dry burn Nickel or Titanium coils.
 
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If dry-burned real good, I certainly can understand how a Kanthal coil could last 2 1/2 - 3 months.

Ok.. first I'll be blunt and be "that guy": NO.. dry burning breaks down the metal... some use a gauge of wire that's so thick that they can't enough notice it. More research that is valid has been coming through and clearly indicates that the dry-burning thing is bad, the moment the coil get bright red (as this is what many consider dry burning), you've got yourself a layer of oxydized metal that you'll be inhaling. The metal is weakened and the coil could snap and create a short.

If you do want to clean your coils with heat, you do it at a sink and very carefully, as you heat the coil up, before you hit any colour, you rinse it under running water to wash the crap away, when wipe with a paper towel or soft rag, gently, no scrubbing, just wiping the gunk off as needed. Do not get your mod wet, and better to use a regulated one.

Wire is cheap, coils are easy to do, people need to stop treating it like a valuable commodity.

A spool of 30 feet of any wire is under 10$ can make a LOT of coils (multiple dozens), no reason to just make a bunch at one time, have them at the ready, heck, pre-cotton them too.

If you have to change them often, change liquids, go with something with less sweeteners, or switch to different metal type and/or gauge.

I tested several, and now I use Temp Control with NI200 26g and a coil (vertical) will last me a good month or more.
 
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