Juice isn't satisfying this morning

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ScottinSoCal

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I suspect this is just a mental thing, but vaping isn't doing it for me this morning. The reason I think it's mental is because I've got a new PV on the way, and I strongly suspect I'm going to find out what I've been missing all this time....

I've got a Joye eGo, and it's been all right. I don't get the massive vapor I've seen, but the amount of throat hit I got from my menthol worked for me. Then I started looking at mods and more powerful PVs, and I decided to get both a GLV Mini (3.7 volt) and a ProVari (3.0-6.0 volts). The ProVari will be here on Tuesday. Since I first woke up this morning, I feel like I've been on a quest for throat hit, and I'm just not getting it. I even dripped - something I consider hugely annoying and pointless - with a low resistance atomizer, and that didn't do it. What I am getting is a ringing in my ears and that slightly floaty feeling from too much nicotine.

I so don't want a regular cigarette, but I do want that throat hit.
 

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Just hang in there, Scott! I know exactly how you feel. I went through the same thing when I was waiting for my Chameleon to arrive. I didn't expect it until after Christmas, but it arrived on the 23rd. You'll be getting your ProVari in just a couple of days. You can do this! You won't find dripping pointless once you get it because mods rock your vape! I still love my eGo, but it plays back-up now and my fiance still uses it.

Don't let the lack of throat hit ruin it for you! It's all mind over matter right now. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. Don't let the stinkys win!
 

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Oh, I won't smoke. I threw away my open pack a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not going to open another. I'm either selling or giving away the three cartons I have in the cupboard. Analogs just taste nasty these days, and they don't interest me.

When I first started this, I traded away the CE2 cartos I bought, because they hit my throat too strong. Over the time since then I've gotten more and more used to vaping, and now those same CE2 cartos (that I had to re-order right after I traded them away) are too mellow for me. That's one of the things that started me looking at higher power PVs. The other is seeing so many people say that 5-8 watts was where so many found their true sweet spot, with some going even higher. Well, with an eGo, I'm lucky to get half that. My current lowest resistance carto gives me just over 3 watts, and it just isn't working for me anymore.
 

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I know that I also have what I refer to as Bad Vape days here & there. Days when nothing tastes good or performs well. I think some of it is my taste buds going ....y. I followed the advice of someone somewhere on this forum, and bought some snus at 7-11. Camel & Marlboro both make it, and although I am sure it's not as good as the Swedish stuff, it gives me a diversion when I'm having a Bad Vape day. I also have added a strong cinnimint vape juice to my supplies, and although I don't usually like those flavors- they do perk up my taste buds a bit.
Anyway..Good luck!
 

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Same here. Had my ego for 4 weeks almost now and finding it very unsatisfying (ego-t)

Went into a store tonight and tried some juices on their pvs which are larger than the ego and my the difference was astounding.

They gave good, really thick white, silky vapor that made me cough at the same draws I take on my ego. In comparison the hits off of my ego are airy, light and weak.

I will order some lr attys and a drip tip and try that. if that's no better, then I will either buy a mod or go back to smoking and just accept vaping isn't for me. The in store pv vape experience was pretty good though.

But tbh all their juices were too sweet and the plain tobacco is just bland.

I have a juce that is a baccy flavor from gh1 which COULD be good with better vapor production than the ego as it has a nice coffee undertaste to it, but on the ego it just isn't thick enough or flavorful enough for me. I really want the flavors to be intense, not airy.
 

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I will order some lr attys and a drip tip and try that. if that's no better, then I will either buy a mod or go back to smoking and just accept vaping isn't for me.

I found someone who has a 5V unit and tried that, and it was too much for me (then), but the way things have changed in just the last few weeks, I don't trust that reaction anymore. That's why I decided to go with a variable voltage setup. I can find my sweet spot, and if it changes, I can find it again, and I don't have to keep swapping hardware to do it. I wish someone had posted from the beginning "You need to find the best setting for you, and the only way to do that at a reasonable cost is to get a variable voltage setup". It would have saved me about $400.
 

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I found someone who has a 5V unit and tried that, and it was too much for me (then), but the way things have changed in just the last few weeks, I don't trust that reaction anymore. That's why I decided to go with a variable voltage setup. I can find my sweet spot, and if it changes, I can find it again, and I don't have to keep swapping hardware to do it. I wish someone had posted from the beginning "You need to find the best setting for you, and the only way to do that at a reasonable cost is to get a variable voltage setup". It would have saved me about $400.

Interesting.

At my wits end with my ego using the tank system.

Almost back on the Dunhill Lights.

So after finding the vapor on the ego-t just too thin, airy and light after the inital novelty wore off and almost sparking up a DL, I just had a big vaping session and told myself to try and use a positive mental attitude that I would like it and now I am almost enjoying it again.

I just want more flavor like dripping off of the big in-store pvs I tried here in Korea (although I found the flavors too sweet - coffee, RY4 and apple). They were bigger pvs than the ego and I dripped on them and the vapor was so thick, silky, pure white and flavorful (ego giving me a greyish thinner color vapor) even though it admitedly was so much stronger than the ego that I coughed like mad and had to take draws half the length of my draws on the ego so as not to cough!

But like you said re - trusting the reaction or not - I think I would get used to that strength after a while and learn to adjust my draw. The same as how initially the ego vapor was fine, now it is just mediocre to me and I need more.

Flavor flavor flavor is what I want. The DEKANG menthol I have is decent but menthol gets boring when I want something thicker tasting. Oriental tobacco is ok but a little bland. Stawberry nice but too weak. Same for the usa mix and tobacco from gh1. They all have a NICE taste - BUT THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH OF IT and I feel unsatisfied. I need twice as much saturation of flavor as I'm getting at the moment, plus thicker vapor.

It's like I sat down to a gorgeous looking steak perfectly cooked only to find someone removed 50% of the flavor out of it by saoking it in water before cooking it or something- so frustrating!!!!

Will dripping on reg / lr 510 attys with my ego give me this improved, thicker flavor I'm so desperately seeking?

Which hv / vv mod are you thiking of getting? How much do these things cost? I too have already spent around 280 usd in only 4 weeks! And to spend that much to end up feeling it is not enough is not on for me.

I am praying (to gods I don't even believe in lol) that dripping on 510 lr attys will be more flavorful and 'creamier.'

I also find when drunk, vape doesn't satisfy me either and I always end up lighting up still (tho not as many as before.)

Let me know if you feel I'm highjacking your thread man...
 

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I'm getting the ProVari, but there are less expensive VV setups out there.

Sometimes I'm completely satisfied with my eGo, and sometimes it's like sucking in air. I've got several kinds of atomizers and cartomizers that I've ordered and some of them work great, some of them give me nothing. I've got several kinds of juices and some of them are excellent, some of them I can hardly tell there's anything in there. I know that different atomizers/cartomizers need different things to work best, and I know that different juices will need different amounts of heat to work best, and I'm not willing to carry around 87 different setups to mix & match what battery will work with which cartomizer what the juice I want to vape now. A VV does all that for me, I can ramp up the power when I want more and dial it back when I want less. It just makes sense to me.
 

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I've got some atomizers that are down around 2.1 ohms. You can get lower than that, but it isn't good for the batteries.

I don't know how much you know about electricity, but it comes down to the power you can safely pull out of the battery and what you're feeding to the heating element in the atomizer/cartomizer. The easiest way to calculate it is with watts of power. Most people who report it are using somewhere between 5 and 8 watts to get the best flavor/throat hit from their juice, and some go over 10 watts. The eGo battery, at 2.1 ohms, is still less than 5 watts. I just don't think I'm going to be able to get what I need out of an eGo battery, and that's why I started looking at VV mods.
 

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I found someone who has a 5V unit and tried that, and it was too much for me (then), but the way things have changed in just the last few weeks, I don't trust that reaction anymore. That's why I decided to go with a variable voltage setup. I can find my sweet spot, and if it changes, I can find it again, and I don't have to keep swapping hardware to do it. I wish someone had posted from the beginning "You need to find the best setting for you, and the only way to do that at a reasonable cost is to get a variable voltage setup". It would have saved me about $400.

Ditto on saving $400. For me it will be double that as I will have to order the wife unit a provari also. Even though i researched for months before I bought our egos, then the screwdriver, then tons of different ohm cartos, we still spent tons we didnt have too. Its hard to weed through people just plugging different forum suppliers, and those giving honest recomondations.

In terms of fighting the cravings, and the rough days; I keep an xl clearomizer loaded with 50mg/ml nic juice for emergencies. I know its not recomended, and way over the leathal dose, but it stops the cravings. 5 or 6 hits at that nic level and i'm chill as can be. I'm not trying to eat candy, I'm quiting smoking, and sometimes I need to supercharge that scenario.
 
Maybe taste isn't what you are after, maybe you are just after a fullness feeling in your throat and lungs that smoking provides.

If that is the case, I would suggest Bobba's Bounty. Closest thing to smoking a cig I have found. Doesn't taste the same mind you, but 'feels' the same. I feel it going down my throat and I feel it filling my lungs. Not to mention cigar quality smoke on the exhale.
 

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No, its intensity of flavor in the mouth for me.

Earlier was dripping in a store trying juices and the vape was way harsher and had insane th and gave a fuller feeling but that isn't it for me - its more taste in the mouth that I want.

Also lr on an ego battery - lowers lifespan etc? 1.5 ohms too low... try 2 ohms etc... help...
 

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What is the safest lr atty to get for an ego battery? I read that 1.5 ohms will kill the lifespan of the ego battery and don't really want to risk that happening....

I wouldn't go lower than 2.1 ohm, I think that's the bottom threshold for them. They're not built with a lot of safety features to save them from abuse.
 
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