Juice reformulation

[TropicalBob]

All good info. The only note I'll add is how MUCH homebrew you end up with after a few cooking experiments! Oh my. I have enough to last a lifetime, sealed in Bell fruit jars and kept in the refrigerator. Not much is used when combined with VG, Bickford and e-liquid, so it lasts a long, long time.

I actually dumped down the sink many of my first attempts that didn't produce a good taste.

 

[karenwest1961]

All good info. The only note I'll add is how MUCH homebrew you end up with after a few cooking experiments! Oh my. I have enough to last a lifetime, sealed in Bell fruit jars and kept in the refrigerator. Not much is used when combined with VG, Bickford and e-liquid, so it lasts a long, long time.

I actually dumped down the sink many of my first attempts that didn't produce a good taste.

Holy crap, man! Can I have some?

 

[Nazareth]

Lol- it's easy enough to cook down Karen- takes only abotu 20 minutes or so- I know TB uses a quite small pot with lid, but I just simmer mine in a small but larger pot than TB as I don't have a really small pot to cook in- I just stick it on stove, come out ot computer while it simmers- check it a few times to see if htere's enough water still (only use a small amount of water so as it'll be denser consistency when it cooks down), and then strain it out and refridgerate it- very simple to do- and I shoudl know because I can't even cook an egg right lol

 

[CaSHMeRe]

... very simple to do- and I shoudl know because I can't even cook an egg right lol

LOL

how you tried cooking it several times and straining several times to try and get as pure as possible Naz? or just cooking it once and putting in the fridge?

 

[TropicalBob]

I've done multiple re-cooks, but we just have no way of knowing the nic content, so what's the point? I wish for a magic strip I could dampen with the fluid and it would read 15mg or something. But I have no idea how much nicotine I cook out.

Someone suggested evaporating more water, to create a denser viscosity, more syrup like. That seems like a sure atomizer killer to me. I aim for a consistency only slightly denser than water, but definitely not thick and syrupy. Just my take.

 

[Nazareth]

I only cook it once- stirring and squishing hte tobacco- then I do strain it twice through fresh coffee filters- but porobably should use lab quality strainers/filters- but not sure where to get them

 

[dnakr]

I only cook mine once and like Nazareth, I strain it twice through coffee filters. Now I am going to try less water like he suggested to see if I like it better.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I only cook mine once and like Nazareth, I strain it twice through coffee filters. Now I am going to try less water like he suggested to see if I like it better.

Interesting ...

Hey TB, I found a snus with Zero nicotine but its supposed to taste like tobacco. You think I should try cooking some Non Nic juice up ?!?!?

Yes, No, Maybe-So ???
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[dnakr]

Hey TB, I found a snus with Zero nicotine but its supposed to taste like tobacco. You think I should try cooking some Non Nic juice up ?!?!?

I'm not TB - but I say go for it and let us know how it turns out.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I'm not TB - but I say go for it and let us know how it turns out.

i so would, i'm just not big in the snus world and I have no idea which one to pick. looks like 3 different brands. you think the more expensive one is the best brand? lol ...

p.s. -- i didn't even know what snus was until TB started talking about it. lol

 

[dnakr]

you think the more expensive one is the best brand?

That I couldn't tell you. I do know that I tried cooking some non-nicotine chewing tobacco. Didn't like the taste of that one.

 

[karenwest1961]

Hey Cash,

I sent them an email to find out what they use since they did not use tobacco in those particular products. Will post it here.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

thanks dnakr ... thanks karen ...

excited to see if it will work out! if we could get that great tobacco taste with zero nicotine, I'm sold.

 

[karenwest1961]

I think eventually it will be found by somebody here.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I think eventually it will be found by somebody here.

probably ... been searching long and hard. i was about to buy some quest cigarettes, destroy them, then cook them up ... i still may do this ... we'll see.

in the meantime, this is what I found on one of the brand Onico ...

Onico looks like snus, smells and tastes like snus and gives the same feeling under the lip. But it’s not a snus. The portions contain no tobacco or nicotine.

Onico is for snuffers that want to cut down on their nicotine consumption, says Mikael Arnebert Director Information & Public Affairs North Europe Division. With Onico the snus users can replace one or several of their ordinary portions with a tobacco and nicotine free alternative.
Onico, a tobacco and nicotine free alternative to snus. Onico consists of vegetable fiber portions, flavored with aromas that imitates tobacco and peppermint taste.

Three variants has been introduced, Onico White Large, Onico Pepparmint White Large and then Onico White Mini.

The product name Onico stands for "Zero Nicotine".

 

[karenwest1961]

Veggie snus? So it's like vapin' a V8? Cool!!!!!!

So, what do you say to an experiment on each coast?

 

[karenwest1961]

I think I may try with some of these:

Golden Eagle Herbal Chew: Tobaccoless Chewing Tobacco Alternative

 

[TropicalBob]

I think the result will be disappointing. Cans of Onico, etc., are not popular with snusers.

Using tobacco snus would probably be as bad as when I used nasal snuff (stunk up the house something awful).

The non-tobacco snus PROBABLY have all kinds of sweeteners and additives that you don't want. That's why I use just burly pipe tobacco. It's (Carter Hall) cheap. Its smells good cooking. And it tastes good smoking. I have yet, however, to get a powerful tobacco taste from it when I mix it with other fluids. I want a hint of tobacco, but Bickford flavor and sweet glycerine overwhelm the juice. I'm still working on it.

 

[jamie]

Jamie- it will dilute hte Glycerin, but not by much- there will still be more than thestandard amount in the mix- comercial eliquid in Cartridges contain appr. 4-7% Glycerin, adding more will jump thta up quite a bit, so diluting it some with flaoring will still result in more Glycerin than standard mixtures

Thanks Naz.