Just a quick rant

[Jman8]

Was all set to play cards with friends tonight. A tradition in our group for over 20 years now. For at least the last 8 years, I'd be vaping at the table. Occasionally a (liberal) friend would want to have a discussion on the politics of vaping. That usually didn't end well. Kinda easy to win a discussion when you're holding a winning hand (metaphorically speaking).

We change off on who hosts, and everywhere we've ever played, I've always been allowed to vape, at the table. Tonight, I asked the host (just to be sure) if he is okay with me vaping. He said, he'd prefer I didn't. We discussed it a short while, and while I could possibly still enjoy myself with the updated policy (literally changed as of today), I decided it's not worth it. Part of me is lashing out at the societal changes of late.

Literally nothing (at all) has changed with vaping nicotine in the last 3+ months, yet as most of you all know, we are now in a societal phase where people truly believe both vaping (nic) is harmful to the user (as in you might die tonight) and harmful to all those around the vaper.

Given how idiotic society has become with 'knowledge of smoking,' I'm quite certain we will be in this phase indefinitely, or for a very long while. Probably won't be too long that we have statistics saying 300,000 people die annually from vaping related diseases. Sad if anyone reading this falls in line with that false information.

 

[bombastinator]

It’s not set in stone yet. You may have a whole bunch of “I told you so” to hand out at some point.

 

[vaper1960]

The really funny thing is nobody even trips if you smoke an actual cigarette! Upside down, back aswards world.

 

[vaper1960]

On a side note: if there are children around and you are vaping with nic, be polite and go outside. Same for in a vehicle, but otherwise people need to get over it.

 

[Rossum]

Tonight, I asked the host (just to be sure) if he is okay with me vaping. He said, he'd prefer I didn't.

"OK, thanks for letting me know. See ya some other time then."

 

[icepickmaker84]

On a side note: if there are children around and you are vaping with nic, be polite and go outside. Same for in a vehicle, but otherwise people need to get over it.

My sister stopped by unexpectedly with her 7m daughter, I had the living room clouded out so when I saw them I started fanning with my arm. She says, “don’t be stupid” and left me dumbfounded.

 

[Jman8]

"OK, thanks for letting me know. See ya some other time then."

That's almost word for word for how things were left. But because I've done it around 90 times before today, there was some discussion before I/we got to that point.

During that 20 years of tradition, there was a period (of like 5 years) where I didn't smoke/drink. During that time, at the house I had, I allowed others to do those things. Partially cause that's the way I roll, and partially cause I knew bans would turn people off. Same guy that said "nope, no vaping in my house" today, is same guy that once tried to convince I ought to allow smoking everywhere in my house if I allow it in the poker room.

 

[United States]

How much/often do you vape? Occasionaly, say a couple few drags an hour?
Do you fill up homies basement with cloud?
Does homie allow smoking?

I know very few people these days who allow smoking in their home. Very few. Vaping is a 50/50 thing depending. Clouders are asked to go out doors with the smokers.

Say my sister for example, she doesn't even let her husband smoke in the house. If my brother walks in a loads the den with cloud he gets a foot in the *** too. If I have my little tootle puffer that puts out the slightest whisp of vaper no problem. But if we are all three gathered at the same time we all feed mosiquitos (ie outdoors).

 

[Rossum]

Do you fill up homies basement with cloud?

Jman hasn't been around for much for quite a while, but based on what I remember from some years ago, I'm pretty confident he's a puffer, not a huffer.

 

[United States]

I tell 'em "you let me vape at your house, I let you drink at mine"……

 

[Jwaterski]

I still don't vape even in my own house, stopped smoking inside years ago, didn't change when I started vaping. I have some friends who smoke, whenever we go to their house I still go outside to vape. Back when I still smoked I would always go outside and smoke when we were there. Just got trained I guess. They do think I'm a little off when it's freezing or raining outside and I'm in their yard vaping away while they're dry and warm inside smoking..

 

[Jman8]

How much/often do you vape? Occasionaly, say a couple few drags an hour?
Do you fill up homies basement with cloud?
Does homie allow smoking?

I puff probably (on average) once every 3 to 7 minutes.
For the most part, I've always only ever used KR808D-1 batts, with 1 ml clearos. If I tried super duper hard, I still doubt I could cloud up any room. Smoking not allowed (used to be). Vaping at table in his house was allowed for past 8 years, until today.

 

[scott58]

Not sure they'd be friends of mine.

 

[Jman8]

Not sure they'd be friends of mine.

Yep, currently not sure how long the friendship will last. If people I know are treating 2nd hand vapor as reason to be concerned, enough to ban it in their homes, I'm pretty sure my visits to them will be less.

 

[Jwaterski]

You can come to my house, and welcome to vape inside, but I'll still be out in the garage or yard

 

[scott58]

And it's really not just about the vape. Imagine all the other crazy crap going on in that guys head.

 

[Jman8]

You can come to my house, and welcome to vape inside, but I'll still be out in the garage or yard

If it's as beautiful where you live as it is tonight where I live, then I'll join you in the yard. We'll have a grand ol' time.

 

[Jwaterski]

Outdoors pretty much always beats indoors, well except where you are in the winter, got friend in Green Bay, y'all get COLD!

 

[dwcraig1]

No smoking real cigs at the game these days but are they still smokers?

 

[United States]

Dam shame Jman8. Dam shame. Sorry to hear your crew sold out.