if you preordered your justGG, it will have channel gtbb, no worries about that. I was talking about people that will order later. Maybe I can talk to my sellers and put those 2 different options on their sites so you can choose. That would be better for you if you agree
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if you preordered your justGG, it will have channel gtbb, no worries about that. I was talking about people that will order later. Maybe I can talk to my sellers and put those 2 different options on their sites so you can choose. That would be better for you if you agree
My humble opinion is that there's no need to overreact on this trivial change. Agreed, people do like to get what they're promised, and I understand that, but I think it's more of a communication problem than anything else.
To explain, Imeo's response to Fry was: "Not a problem fry. Ifif you receive a holed justGG I will send you one more cap with channels, no worries. But its only 6 gr" and to another poster, "I say again that if you receive the cap with holes and you dont like it, I will send you another one, without the need to return me the first one. But holes are the same as GGTS and I think that when I made them you liked them a lot."
So in other words, if anyone has a problem, Imeo says he is willing to make amends.
Now, if Imeo's original posting had pointed that out saying, "I made venting caps with 6 holes instead of a channel inside it. You will receive your justGG with one cap or another. If you do receive the 6-hole cap and would like the slotted one instead, I'll more than happily send you one /or/ you can exchange it", I believe no one would be complaining - right?
That's my 2 cents on the topic.
To explain, Imeo's response to Fry was: "Not a problem fry. Ifif you receive a holed justGG I will send you one more cap with channels, no worries. But its only 6 gr" and to another poster, "I say again that if you receive the cap with holes and you dont like it, I will send you another one, without the need to return me the first one. But holes are the same as GGTS and I think that when I made them you liked them a lot."
So in other words, if anyone has a problem, Imeo says he is willing to make amends.
Now, if Imeo's original posting had pointed that out saying, "I made venting caps with 6 holes instead of a channel inside it. You will receive your justGG with one cap or another. If you do receive the 6-hole cap and would like the slotted one instead, I'll more than happily send you one /or/ you can exchange it", I believe no one would be complaining - right?
That's my 2 cents on the topic.
and for the record, no one wants to just sit around complaining about something that they used to love...I never complained about gg products before..I always sang my praises but some people think that I have nothing better to do then my posting about my disappointment on the gg...I also feel that right is right and wrong is wrong ...I am not going to just sit back and say nothing when there is an issue.
my dear jojo, lets discuss one by one your issues:
1. out of discussion, its ok
2-3. Ithaka is really the best and you know it. The leaking problem can be fixed with just bigger o-rings. Thats why I always leave room for bigger o-rings if you have notice from other GG constructions. Leakage on all constructions out there can be prevented only with o-rings if you put the right size of them. So if my Ithaka doesnt leak with original o-rings, I suppose that yours will not leak too. But as I said, there is room for bigger ones and I do it like this because I dont know how Ithaka will behave in other hands than mine. So there is no leakage problem if you agree.
Steel windows dont leak too if you put bigger o-rings. Solution is simple as that. I believe that complaining about o-rings and making a product look terrible because of them is not exactly the right thing to do when you have in your hands an atomizer that is by far the best of all. I understand your anger but I have given you the solution many days ago if I remember well
4. I just followed what most people said. I made a pole to satisfy even more people and thats a mistake of me???? I could not make a pole if you agree, and send what I said in the beginning but I preferred to do a pole just for you!
5. Ready wires were made in Greece always and when I decided to move in China I announced it. What else I could do better than that? And why do you believe that I made them in China without warning you first? When I decided to move production in China, I just told you that. Maybe it would be better to keep my mouth shut and dont tell you anything?
I am not angry while typing. I say that in case my English are not look very well to your eyes. I am just answering your qwestions and I hope that this post of mine will make things right between us because you are a great person and I dont want to lose you because of a misunderstooding
1. out of discussion, its ok
2-3. Ithaka is really the best and you know it. The leaking problem can be fixed with just bigger o-rings. Thats why I always leave room for bigger o-rings if you have notice from other GG constructions. Leakage on all constructions out there can be prevented only with o-rings if you put the right size of them. So if my Ithaka doesnt leak with original o-rings, I suppose that yours will not leak too. But as I said, there is room for bigger ones and I do it like this because I dont know how Ithaka will behave in other hands than mine. So there is no leakage problem if you agree.
Steel windows dont leak too if you put bigger o-rings. Solution is simple as that. I believe that complaining about o-rings and making a product look terrible because of them is not exactly the right thing to do when you have in your hands an atomizer that is by far the best of all. I understand your anger but I have given you the solution many days ago if I remember well
4. I just followed what most people said. I made a pole to satisfy even more people and thats a mistake of me???? I could not make a pole if you agree, and send what I said in the beginning but I preferred to do a pole just for you!
5. Ready wires were made in Greece always and when I decided to move in China I announced it. What else I could do better than that? And why do you believe that I made them in China without warning you first? When I decided to move production in China, I just told you that. Maybe it would be better to keep my mouth shut and dont tell you anything?
I am not angry while typing. I say that in case my English are not look very well to your eyes. I am just answering your qwestions and I hope that this post of mine will make things right between us because you are a great person and I dont want to lose you because of a misunderstooding
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Thanks again Fishtec. I just said that not directly to you but because I wanted all people know why some things happen
if you preordered your justGG then you are ok. If you want to order now, then my sellers can put both options on their sites xtreme.
complaining about something means that you love it, you bought it and you use it jojo. And thats what I want from GG users. But I dont see why you just dont put bigger o-rings where you see the small leakage? Its so simple. I tell you again that I always try to have options in my constructions for people that use them in a different way than me. Thats why I leave tolerance for smaller or bigger o-rings. And thats why I send 2 kind of o-rings with justGG, so people can have options to make AD ring stiffer or loose
I can't read this thread any more too depressing imeo keep doing what your doing u cant satisfy everone. I'm going back to my purps peace out... 
imeo keep doing what your doing u cant satisfy everone. I'm going back to my purps peace out... 
Thanks for being a great guy Imeo... Although I dont mind about the holes/channel its great to see you try to make everyone happy, and thats one of the reasons I am a GG fan. I think this is all a little rediculuous how some people are getting so upset, I dont see the big deal. I just cant wait to get mine!
Imeo. Honestly. We've been vaping GG for quite a while. You know how many we've been through. We have tried all sorts of solutions.
I won't continue this here. It is not fair anymore to continue this chatter on a JGG thread or disrupt everyone's "Christmas" while their JGGs arrive. I WILL take this over to the ithaka thread and post pictures there.
Regarding the JGG, I started a thread this week about communication. For me this is not about 6 holes, 2 slots, or 10 diamond shaped vent holes. I still hope that the JGG quality is there.
I won't continue this here. It is not fair anymore to continue this chatter on a JGG thread or disrupt everyone's "Christmas" while their JGGs arrive. I WILL take this over to the ithaka thread and post pictures there.
Regarding the JGG, I started a thread this week about communication. For me this is not about 6 holes, 2 slots, or 10 diamond shaped vent holes. I still hope that the JGG quality is there.
Quality is in every GG construction Yankee. Also quality is in Ithaka too. Ithaka has maybe the best quality of all GG constructions for several reasons. But lets discuss this on Ithaka thread. I am ready to answer all your questions and give you the solutions
I hate those 'Keep Calm and.....' posters but it feels like we could do with one here. Might I suggest if anyone has a serious issue with their JustGG that they at least wait until they get it in their hands before making any rash decisions.
Imeo is bending over backwards to help here, I'm sure it will all be OK.
Imeo is bending over backwards to help here, I'm sure it will all be OK.
and this is why I didn't pursue this with you...I disagree.
I have heard you...you have heard me... that's that...meanwhile I will continue to look for solutions on my own...maybe one day the magic oring will appear and it will be the cure all...in the meantime...I look for something different to vape on....
I have heard you...you have heard me... that's that...meanwhile I will continue to look for solutions on my own...maybe one day the magic oring will appear and it will be the cure all...in the meantime...I look for something different to vape on....
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Ok, maybe you and other friends didnt understand well the situation and thats why this trouble happened suddenly. All the preorders will have channels because thats what I send to my sellers in first place. The rest of justGG that will go up for sale will be mixed.
No it was not clear that preorders would all have channels. For sure that's what started all this off. In this case, guys, all is right with the world.
No it was not clear that preorders would all have channels. For sure that's what started all this off. In this case, guys, all is right with the world.
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