Just got an eVic, but it should be a Provari
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What is the total for all those things that is still cheaper than a Provari? Just a quick check would tell me your total is around $250, or in that neighborhood, assuming you bought bodies only and no charger with any of them. A Provari without charger is $160.
Sigelei warranty = 15 days
Ego warranty = 30 days
evic warranty = 30 days
Vamo warranty = 30 days
Provari warranty = 1 year
Oops! forgot the 2-CCTS mods, add another $80. My new estimate is now $320. That equals 2 provari's using my math.
Sigelei warranty = 15 days
Ego warranty = 30 days
evic warranty = 30 days
Vamo warranty = 30 days
Provari warranty = 1 year
Oops! forgot the 2-CCTS mods, add another $80. My new estimate is now $320. That equals 2 provari's using my math.
Sitting here enjoying my:
2 CCTS mods - Watermelon - Keylime Pie
Vamo - Nutty Caramel
Ego 650 - DK Cappuccino
eVic #1 - ECB RY4 Dessert
eVic #2 - DK RY4
Sigelei Tele - Rasberry/vanilla
It's all good................ and not even the cost of a single Provari for the lot<Smart Shopper>
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Since you seem determine to keep trailing me, just remember I said <Smart Shopper>
Sigelei - $23.00
Ego - $8.00
2 x evic $68.00 - 1>Full kit
Vamo - $26.00
2XCCTS $48.00
Total $173.00
And when I priced the Provari it was and still is:
Now, I also just gifted 5 Ego kits that I purchased for $53.55 shipped.
And for your personal Info. I like the look and build of the provari(V2.0 prefered) and may eventually own one if/when it is VW enabled.
Also - So very sorry your eVic experience has left you so tainted as to have to hound others.
Sigelei - $23.00
Ego - $8.00
2 x evic $68.00 - 1>Full kit
Vamo - $26.00
2XCCTS $48.00
Total $173.00
And when I priced the Provari it was and still is:
Now, I also just gifted 5 Ego kits that I purchased for $53.55 shipped.
And for your personal Info. I like the look and build of the provari(V2.0 prefered) and may eventually own one if/when it is VW enabled.
Also - So very sorry your eVic experience has left you so tainted as to have to hound others.
I wanted my eVic to be a good experience, but it has not. I can't recommend it to anyone. I have had the screen frozen on three separate occasions when attempting to change settings. The screen can't be read outdoors, the vw is useless because it is inaccurate. When I turn on the eVic it states "5.2 recommended wattage" no matter what OHM coil is installed. It even displays the same message if there is no atty present. There have been several example of broken eVic's that has been on the market only 3 months. It has a 30 day warranty IF you can get anyone to honor it. By what you say, it's OK to bash the Provari, but if I attack the eVic, I'm a troll. You can bash the Provari, and not be a troll. Isn't that curious?
If anyone wants an eVic, by all means get one, but be forewarned it's not magical.
If anyone wants an eVic, by all means get one, but be forewarned it's not magical.
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OP states "Just got an eVic, but it should be a Provari" Where am I wrong? Provari bashers galore. You don't have to own one, just hear the name.
I never bashed the Provari thank you. Have even congratulated several others on their purchase.
I don't drive a Mercedes either. That doesn't make me a German car hater.
I did express that I have purchased a lot more for a lot less and that is my business, not yours. Your issue should be with your Vender but for some reason you prefer taking it out on me and every other eVic owner on the forums. Personally I hope a Forum Moderator sees all this and gets you to get off my case.
In the mean time please continue to rant while I enjoy my well operating eVics. I'm done.
I don't drive a Mercedes either. That doesn't make me a German car hater.
I did express that I have purchased a lot more for a lot less and that is my business, not yours. Your issue should be with your Vender but for some reason you prefer taking it out on me and every other eVic owner on the forums. Personally I hope a Forum Moderator sees all this and gets you to get off my case.
In the mean time please continue to rant while I enjoy my well operating eVics. I'm done.
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I cut a lot of what you said - others are commenting on it, and I actually agree with some of it. (The screen is unreadable outside, for example.. That would be less of an issue if the menus were reorganized. Putting it to sleep is a common activity, for me at least, and it requires reading the screen.)
However.. that quote shows you don't understand what VW means. With VV, you change the voltage based on resistance (ohms) to get to your preferred wattage. VW takes that step out - you set a preferred wattage and get the same hit at any supported resistance..
Oh, and I have an evic and a vamo. (The vamo is brand new, so I'm using it exclusively for the next few days before I decide what I think.)
The vamo and evic are comparable devices - they both do VW, but they have different features otherwise (stacking in the vamo, for example.)
The provari isn't a comparable device. It just isn't, and all the fanboys who keep insisting otherwise aren't doing the provari justice. That isn't a knock on it, believe it or not. I actually think better of it in it's own class (VV) than against VW devices..
Some obvious reasons I say that:
It isn't in the same price range. (Don't compare a geo metro to a bugati, or an AMP tank to a prefilled Dekang cartomizer..)
It isn't the same type of device. (VW and VV are simply not the same. My mac and my nexus 10 are not interchangable. Ditto for my tv and my phone.. Sure, all 4 of those show video, but..)
There are lots of differences between the vamo and evic, too, but they are the same type of device. (One has higher power limits, one has more features, both do the same jobs within their limits. Land rover vs f350 maybe?)
Cost and fanboys aside the one killer fail on the provari for me is the single button interface. That is just me though, and maybe I am unnecessarily skittish. (I won an imotion, which is basically a cheap provari knockoff. It has a super sensitive button that also sticks, so it is especially irritating to click-clack-hold to change settings.. I realize the provari won't have that problem, obviously, but even without that it was annoying to morse-code my way to victory..)
The vamo and evic are comparable devices - they both do VW, but they have different features otherwise (stacking in the vamo, for example.)
The provari isn't a comparable device. It just isn't, and all the fanboys who keep insisting otherwise aren't doing the provari justice. That isn't a knock on it, believe it or not. I actually think better of it in it's own class (VV) than against VW devices..
Some obvious reasons I say that:
It isn't in the same price range. (Don't compare a geo metro to a bugati, or an AMP tank to a prefilled Dekang cartomizer..)
It isn't the same type of device. (VW and VV are simply not the same. My mac and my nexus 10 are not interchangable. Ditto for my tv and my phone.. Sure, all 4 of those show video, but..)
There are lots of differences between the vamo and evic, too, but they are the same type of device. (One has higher power limits, one has more features, both do the same jobs within their limits. Land rover vs f350 maybe?)
Cost and fanboys aside
the one killer fail on the provari for me is the single button interface. That is just me though, and maybe I am unnecessarily skittish. (I won an imotion, which is basically a cheap provari knockoff. It has a super sensitive button that also sticks, so it is especially irritating to click-clack-hold to change settings.. I realize the provari won't have that problem, obviously, but even without that it was annoying to morse-code my way to victory..)
You put words in my mouth. I know exactly what vw means. I was in the consumer electronics manufacturing field for over 40 years. Don't attempt to put words in my mouth, or try to tell me what I don't know. I'm very serious about that, very serious. If anyone can't derive between simple voltage and wattage calculations, they are the one's who need an education.
What I can't understand about your obvious, and ridiculous rant is about "putting it to sleep", "reorganizing the menu screen" because it can't be read outside, alludes logic and common sense.
What I can't understand about your obvious, and ridiculous rant is about "putting it to sleep", "reorganizing the menu screen" because it can't be read outside, alludes logic and common sense.
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I quoted you exactly. That was all the words I "put in your mouth", so go be very serious very serious to someone else..
Ohms have nothing to do with recommended wattage. So its perfectly reasonable that it says 5.2 no matter what (including nothing, btw) is hooked up. If it said something like "3.7 volts recommended" no matter what then that is a different issue..
Ohms have nothing to do with recommended wattage. So its perfectly reasonable that it says 5.2 no matter what (including nothing, btw) is hooked up. If it said something like "3.7 volts recommended" no matter what then that is a different issue..
Disconnect - some people just get off on arguing.
If the safe Vaping power chart was reviewed before posting people would see the Recommend 5.2w is right in the Green safe zone all the way from 1.2ohms to 6.5ohms.
Maybe Recommended is to confusing
If the safe Vaping power chart was reviewed before posting people would see the Recommend 5.2w is right in the Green safe zone all the way from 1.2ohms to 6.5ohms.
Maybe Recommended is to confusing
Well like the OP, I recently got an eVic. I am quite happy with it so far. Because of the devoted following of Provari users, I intend to reward myself with one in May for my one year anniversary of quitting analogs. When I have both I will compare them fully. For now, it seems the differences referring to relative strengths (as I read them) are as follows:
Provari: Considerably more durable, first rate craftsmanship, greater output capability, better warranty and service (tells me something about the build quality right there), better brand reputation and therefore the prestige that comes with it.
eVic: Some added features - namely controlling by VW or VV, ability to upgrade with firmware (which conceivably allows you to hack the program to make it do anything you want-except have an output greater than 11 watts), lower cost, easier controls/menu due to twist and fire button interface.
I really don't get the hostility between users of the devices, and the apparent defensiveness of Provari users. I am not referring to anyone in particular on this thread, but generally it is noticeable that any criticism of the Provari is classified as "hate". Some users will prefer devices other than the Provari, and that is fine. The Provari is clearly the most successful mass produced VV mod available right now. They are doing something right, and I intend to see just what it is. Having a reputation as the most reliable device on the market is quite an accomplishment.
Provari: Considerably more durable, first rate craftsmanship, greater output capability, better warranty and service (tells me something about the build quality right there), better brand reputation and therefore the prestige that comes with it.
eVic: Some added features - namely controlling by VW or VV, ability to upgrade with firmware (which conceivably allows you to hack the program to make it do anything you want-except have an output greater than 11 watts), lower cost, easier controls/menu due to twist and fire button interface.
I really don't get the hostility between users of the devices, and the apparent defensiveness of Provari users. I am not referring to anyone in particular on this thread, but generally it is noticeable that any criticism of the Provari is classified as "hate". Some users will prefer devices other than the Provari, and that is fine. The Provari is clearly the most successful mass produced VV mod available right now. They are doing something right, and I intend to see just what it is. Having a reputation as the most reliable device on the market is quite an accomplishment.
I am pretty sure that every thread on ECF has one thing in common...provari or not to provari?
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