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True. And in a world that assaults daily us with palpable evil and genuine tragedy, sometimes a really frivolous argument can be a nice relief -- worth celebrating even.
Just got an eVic, but it should be a Provari
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True. And in a world that assaults daily us with palpable evil and genuine tragedy, sometimes a really frivolous argument can be a nice relief -- worth celebrating even.
Figure ill throw in my thoughts......
The evic is cool for its interface but is cheaply made and feels cheap in your hand. The top of the control head is glued in and when it gets hot the glue fails. Again, it's a cheaply made mod.
The provari is a tank. Does its job every time. Isn't going to get hot and melt its head off.
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The evic is cool for its interface but is cheaply made and feels cheap in your hand. The top of the control head is glued in and when it gets hot the glue fails. Again, it's a cheaply made mod.
The provari is a tank. Does its job every time. Isn't going to get hot and melt its head off.
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You do own an eVic and have tested this theory correct? Sadly you assume because it is different it must be cheaply made. Dropped a cellphone lately? How about a fine crystal Glass? A Mercedes is a nice car but it must be cheaply made since it cannot take a hit like a tank can?
No one says you have to like it, but you also don't have to arbitrarily bash it.
I have them both.
Got the Evic on Thursday and it's a very good mod, the fact that the output is flat DC compared to the Vamo is also a plus.
I dropped my Provari on tile the other day and was more afraid of damaging the tiles, I don't think the Evic would survive too many drops if any.
This isn't a bash against the Evic, the Provari is the ideal mod for clumsy people like myself because of it's durability.
Got the Evic on Thursday and it's a very good mod, the fact that the output is flat DC compared to the Vamo is also a plus.
I dropped my Provari on tile the other day and was more afraid of damaging the tiles, I don't think the Evic would survive too many drops if any.
This isn't a bash against the Evic, the Provari is the ideal mod for clumsy people like myself because of it's durability.
You do own an eVic and have tested this theory correct? Sadly you assume because it is different it must be cheaply made. Dropped a cellphone lately? How about a fine crystal Glass? A Mercedes is a nice car but it must be cheaply made since it cannot take a hit like a tank can?
No one says you have to like it, but you also don't have to arbitrarily bash it.
Oh dear..... I tried to stay out of it. For anyone reading this besides crxess, if you want an evic buy one, if you want something else buy it. Be an educated consumer when you do. Now glued on when comparing the two would be quite cheaply made and when it heats up and goes in your pocket is absolutely an issue that I would be upset about if I bought one and didn't know.
Have I dropped a cellphone lately? Yes. My iPhone 4S has no casing on it (I took it out of its lifeproof because I don't like the feel). It has no protection at all. 3 times in the past week on concrete, tile and blacktop. Only damage is around the front and back on the corners. So I'm obviously looking for your point. As for the Mercedes... Does it fall apart when you go down the road? The point was its built poorly for what would be considered normal use. The point was not please bash me with pointlessness and falseness .
I don't think the Evic is ideal for folks that drop their mods a lot.
There is a good few posts from folks here and UKVapers that have suffered catastrophic failures with a single drop, the control head is the weak point - this didn't stop me from buying one though.
I haven't heard anything about the glue melting on the top cap all the same, this is the first I've heard of it.
There is a good few posts from folks here and UKVapers that have suffered catastrophic failures with a single drop, the control head is the weak point - this didn't stop me from buying one though.
I haven't heard anything about the glue melting on the top cap all the same, this is the first I've heard of it.
I have 2 flawlessly functioning eVics which have had at least 1,500 hours each of continuous use to this point.
My Provari needs to be returned for warranty work over a failing fire-button and a goofy menu which is going haywire. In addition to the $170 or so I paid, I now have additional expenses sending it back -- maybe 300 hours on it so far, never been dropped -- never had a chance to.
Next Joyetech release is likely going to relegate the Provari into the dinosaur age where it almost belongs now. The power and technical accuracy of the electronics is the only thread it has still left and where Joyetech is lagging a touch behind. I'm not impressed with battery handles that almost weigh half a pound and when dropped potentially create more damage to the $180 Genny mounted to it. Hence I never take the Provari far off the table top.
If Provape doesn't start getting innovative with the next major release they'll be left in the dust.
My Provari needs to be returned for warranty work over a failing fire-button and a goofy menu which is going haywire. In addition to the $170 or so I paid, I now have additional expenses sending it back -- maybe 300 hours on it so far, never been dropped -- never had a chance to.
Next Joyetech release is likely going to relegate the Provari into the dinosaur age where it almost belongs now. The power and technical accuracy of the electronics is the only thread it has still left and where Joyetech is lagging a touch behind. I'm not impressed with battery handles that almost weigh half a pound and when dropped potentially create more damage to the $180 Genny mounted to it. Hence I never take the Provari far off the table top.
If Provape doesn't start getting innovative with the next major release they'll be left in the dust.
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Disagree with Provape being being left in the dust because of lack of variable wattage - not everyone relies or swears by VW - the return rate for Provari's is famously low also.
It certainly isn't a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned., another thing worth mentioning is that the Evic probably wouldn't even exist if it was for the Provari.
No need to bash one product in support of the other.
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Agree, although it happens a lot. I think part of it is the normal defensiveness - "I thought hard about it and bought it, so it HAS to be best! Otherwise I made a mistake!" but it goes beyond that..
I still don't understand why the two devices are compared so often. I don't see tons of provari users in the vamo forum insisting that the vamo is just a knockoff, for example. (I'm sure there are probably evic users in the provari areas too, but I don't go there so I don't know..) It isn't fair to the evic to compare it to an 8lb tank of steel, and it isn't fair to the provari to compare it to a decent VW device..
VW does not take the step out, it just does the calculation and changes the voltage for you.
Ohms has everything to do with recommended wattage, if you change the resistance(ohms) of the atomizer, then to keep the power the same(watts) the VW device automatically adjusts the voltage to get to the power(watts) you have the device set for. It doesn't matter if the device is VV or VW, the calculations still have to be made, VV you do it yourself, VW the device does it for you.
You do own an eVic and have tested this theory correct? Sadly you assume because it is different it must be cheaply made. Dropped a cellphone lately? How about a fine crystal Glass? A Mercedes is a nice car but it must be cheaply made since it cannot take a hit like a tank can?
No one says you have to like it, but you also don't have to arbitrarily bash it.
I have one. It's sitting in a box of broken, cheap, poorly made items.
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Right. He was saying that it was a problem that the recommended watts screen it shows on startup was always the same..
Anyway, this part of the discussion has gone on way beyond what it needed.
There is nothing in my post about VW, nothing about where something came from, nothing bashed, so what post are you responding to?
I have a provari--each time I buy something else that sounds cool or better--it is a disappointment. I change the voltage on the provari to accommodate different flavors. The provari--just works! Solid. Dependable. Reliable. found an awesome tank that "matches" the provari and it I am in vaping perfection. Provari + Pro V2 Cartridge tank. Wishing you all the best, but it is nice to just not have to fiddle with it.
Wishing you all the best, but it is nice to just not have to fiddle with it.
1,500 hours each for a total of 3,000 hours? How long have you had them? How many hours per day do you vape?
After saying you've had two Evics do 1500 hours without problems (are you sure about this?) you happen to mention that your Provari broke after 300 hours of use - incidentally, can I ask how you measure usage times on your devices?
I assumed you were talking about VW as there isn't much else that the Evic does that the Provari doesn't.
As far as the Provari being relegated to the dinosaur age "where it almost belongs now" (is this not a bash?) after Joyetech's next release - what's it going to do exactly?
Is it going to come with a flux capacitor/ is it nuclear powered?
70 days since Christmas when the Evic started to appear in the wild = 1680 hours.
At 10 seconds max per vape = 10080 puffs
I think there's a slight bit of exaggeration going on.
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