Just got my first 510, kind of curious about it though...

[devilazy]

So, I just received my first ecig today from cignot and right away started charging and doing the prep.
The charging took a surprisingly short time (apx. 30 minutes) and during this time I was blowing out the primer fluid out of the atty until I'm out of breath.
Then, I started filling my blank cart up with ecoPURE english toffee (which smelt delicious btw). I was counting for 15 drips and looking at the filler but realized that I ended up dripping about 30 drops and the cart still doesn't look full, so I stopped there and gave the atty it's two drips.
I put everything together and tried it, I started by speed puffing to get the process starting like I would with an analog and then when I start getting more vapor I slowed down and enjoyed it. It felt great because although there was no nicotine in it, I had the placebo effect on and still felt a slight head rush .
Anyways, the problem I'm having right now is with taste and vapor. Even though I dripped so much in, I can barely taste the toffee. Now, maybe I'm a noob and expected too much or maybe it's just ecoPURE just has a more subtle taste. I am curious if there's anything I can do about this? Next, the vapor was visible but I don't feel it's enough. If I suck long and hard enough then I could get enough vap somewhat similar to an analog but it's a bit tiring especially since I spent so much time blowing out fluids before, but in general tiring still.
So, I guess what my main question here is, what mod's are there, if any, can help improve my original 510 (or just anything I can do at all)? Oh, and if any of my process seems wrong or the product is weird (like I said, it only took 30 mins to charge fully ), please let me know. Thanks in advance!

 

[Jimmy_2k9]

The Pyramid tea bag mod worked well for me. It seems to make the drag alot less effort and really helps get all the juice vapped (no juice left behind in the cart, when the atty goes dry).

Theres a selection of Youtube videos for this mod and its really cheap and easy. I bought the tea bags at walmart for like $3 and You can make 2 cart fillers per tea bag, so 40 total for $3.

Another thing I did to get more vapor out of my juice was mix a little bit of VG into my liquids, I got a couple bottles of it at the hobby lobby for $2 each.

Here's a picture of the tea bags and VG I got, its worked for me.

I'm still a noob when it comes to vaping, perhaps someone with a little more know how will drop by. You certainly can't go wrong with the tea bag mod though, I highly recamend it.

 

[Skully7780]

Bats from cignot come pretty charged, so the 30 min is fine. If the light turns green your good to go.

Did you fill a blank cart with poly in it? Or did you just use the blank cart with nothing in it?

I have the same toffee flavor and it is subtle, a lot of people seem to complain about the taste production on a 510.

As far as your TH problem, (the amount of vapor) my 510 makes much less vapor then an analog. My suggestion is to try 2 510s (if you have them) at the same time and see if you like that better then one. If you do, then you are a perfect candidate for a MOD for better vapor production. (a new PV, not a mod to your 510)

Also, just like anything with flavor, if you vape it for a while the taste will start to go away a little, just as if your getting use to a smell in a room, I think a lot of the taste for toffee is smell.

hope that helps.

OH, and if you just started today, I don't think PTB will do much for you, as the poly should be springy and new, The flavor probably wont change much. (no offense jimmy)

 

[malyden]

Also remember that the atomizers can sometimes take a little while to break in

 

[bhima]

For vapor, Absolutely buy some Vegetable Glycerin and put it in your juice (as the poster above said).

For flavor, I find that direct dripping onto the atomizer works the best to get the most flavor. Also, you never need to worry about dealing with the batting in the cartridge because you can just put the cart on completely empty and vape away. I find 3 drops on a 510 atty will give you 5-8 good hits with ALOT more flavor than trying to fill a cart. Give it a shot.

 

[UberDuper]

Don't add VG to your ecopure. Ecopure already uses VG as it's base.
Ecopure is the best vapor producing liquid I've tried and the english toffee is very subtle in there. I love it for the flavor and the dense vapor it makes. Hate it for the price.

Unscrew the atomizer and see if there's liquid on the threads. If so, wipe them dry and wipe out the inside of the battery side connector. Screw it back on and try again. If the threads get wet again, wipe everything dry again and blow out the atomizer just a little. You don't need to get everything out of there. Then don't put any more drops on the atty before putting the cart back on.

If the threads are not wet then I'm not sure what to tell you. The ecopure english toffee on a dry atomizer has a pretty distinct burnt taste that I'd expect you to mention if that's the problem you were having.

UD.

 

[Bobnoxious]

The Pyramid tea bag mod worked well for me. It seems to make the drag alot less effort and really helps get all the juice vapped (no juice left behind in the cart, when the atty goes dry).

Theres a selection of Youtube videos for this mod and its really cheap and easy. I bought the tea bags at walmart for like $3 and You can make 2 cart fillers per tea bag, so 40 total for $3.

Another thing I did to get more vapor out of my juice was mix a little bit of VG into my liquids, I got a couple bottles of it at the hobby lobby for $2 each.

Here's a picture of the tea bags and VG I got, its worked for me.

I'm still a noob when it comes to vaping, perhaps someone with a little more know how will drop by. You certainly can't go wrong with the tea bag mod though, I highly recamend it.

Really? Is that your desk? lol... I have so much crap on my desk it's insane. I tried the 510 straw mod yesterday, cut the straw. Can't find it now. Lost interest.

 

[Skully7780]

Don't add VG to your ecopure. Ecopure already uses VG as it's base..

Definitly right about that. Don't add VG

 

[Wolf]

If you decide to try the PTB card mod and you get them at WalMart, wander on over to the Pharmacy area. They carry USP Glycerin in the First Aid section for skin.

 

[devilazy]

First, thanks for all the advices.

As far as your TH problem, (the amount of vapor) my 510 makes much less vapor then an analog. My suggestion is to try 2 510s (if you have them) at the same time and see if you like that better then one. If you do, then you are a perfect candidate for a MOD for better vapor production. (a new PV, not a mod to your 510) OH, and if you just started today, I don't think PTB will do much for you, as the poly should be springy and new, The flavor probably wont change much. (no offense jimmy)

So, you suggest I try 2 510s at the same time, and if I enjoy it I should try looking for a new PV called MOD? But I just got 510s today tho Also, so if the PTB mod doesn't work for me, is there any mod I can do for them to help until I am ready to get a new one? Like maybe would a batt mod work?

Unscrew the atomizer and see if there's liquid on the threads. If so, wipe them dry and wipe out the inside of the battery side connector. Screw it back on and try again. If the threads get wet again, wipe everything dry again and blow out the atomizer just a little. You don't need to get everything out of there. Then don't put any more drops on the atty before putting the cart back on.
If the threads are not wet then I'm not sure what to tell you. The ecopure english toffee on a dry atomizer has a pretty distinct burnt taste that I'd expect you to mention if that's the problem you were having.

I tried what you said, and it didn't really do much for me. Also, I don't taste any burnt taste or maybe it's just I don't know what the difference. I think it's really just the juice is rather weak so I'm waiting for my other juice to see what the difference it.
Question: should I use a new atty for a different juice or is there a simple way for me to clean out the one I'm using now and still have a new better taste?

 

[Skully7780]

First, thanks for all the advices.

So, you suggest I try 2 510s at the same time, and if I enjoy it I should try looking for a new PV called MOD? But I just got 510s today tho Also, so if the PTB mod doesn't work for me, is there any mod I can do for them to help until I am ready to get a new one? Like maybe would a batt mod work?

I'm sorry, using too much tech terms I think.

The mod would be the chuck, Vapor King, or something along that line. A bigger badder personal vape. I know you just got your 510

As far as fixing it until you can get a new one. Only thing that I think can work for you is direct dripping on the atty, or try some new juices for a more bold flavored one.

Once again I will need to state that PTB will probably not improve the taste noticably.

 

[vapordraggin101]

Hi, I think I would try some "bear juice" house blend is 60/40 vg, puts out great vapor and flavor, I can hardly see my screen for the vapor using my 510. I also use blue form for filler, works great for me. I fill my carts at nite and let them soak in, I get a good 25 to 30 puffs the next day on 1 cart. Good luck, hope you find what works best for you.

 

[Wireguy]

Just a thought here. I cut this part of the message to point something out. First thing is drops are relative. 30 drops from your bottle may not be 30 from another. A full cart should just start to well up. If it didn't look full it probably wasn't.

If an atty has been thoroughly blown out it takes more than two drops to reprime it. If you can get 30 in your carts without it being filled you've got small drops. I've heard of some with small drops put as many as 10 to reprime an atty.

I'd try filling the cart again and put several drops on the atty. The worst that can happen is you flood it. If you haven't flooded a 510 while you are learning it you probably haven't found the balance between to much and not enough. If nothing else has worked give it a shot.

Oh yea, start with a fresh battery if you do try it.

Then, I started filling my blank cart up with ecoPURE english toffee (which smelt delicious btw). I was counting for 15 drips and looking at the filler but realized that I ended up dripping about 30 drops and the cart still doesn't look full, so I stopped there and gave the atty it's two drips.

Next, the vapor was visible but I don't feel it's enough.

 

[devilazy]

Just a thought here. I cut this part of the message to point something out. First thing is drops are relative. 30 drops from your bottle may not be 30 from another. A full cart should just start to well up. If it didn't look full it probably wasn't.
If an atty has been thoroughly blown out it takes more than two drops to reprime it. If you can get 30 in your carts without it being filled you've got small drops. I've heard of some with small drops put as many as 10 to reprime an atty.
I'd try filling the cart again and put several drops on the atty. The worst that can happen is you flood it. If you haven't flooded a 510 while you are learning it you probably haven't found the balance between to much and not enough. If nothing else has worked give it a shot.

The thing is I'm not sure how much is full, like I can see the top glitering up and looks like a good amount s soaked in, but it's not overfilled. Also, what is flooding the atty like, as I probably don't know again since I'm new to this. But thanks for the advice, I am going to try looking for videos as to flooding and filling.

Oh yea, start with a fresh battery if you do try it.

This is for trying a different flavor and not for trying flood it right?

 

[Arvidx]

So the fresh battery is for filling. For changing flavors honestly unless you want to go through a fair amount of trouble, it is easiest to just blow the atomizer out really well then flush it either with the new flavor or the VG by putting a couple drops in and blowing that out. I would suggest then puffing it a few times to ensure its dry then start refilling... It wont perfectly remove the first flavor especially if it is a strong one but it will give you a good start and the previous one should reduce fairly quickly.

As for vapor production I find that the 510 really is a dripping machine. That means if starting with a dry atty and an EMPTY Cart, drip approximately 3 drops directly onto the bridge. Let the drops form and fall on their own. If you are using the little white ecopure bottle from CigNot it should be a fairly average sized drop. Once the three drops are on the Atomizer go ahead and smoke it like a cig. Maybe a couple puffs to start but then just long steady inhale. The 510 atty may take a few rounds to break in but it will produce tons of vapor with a VG based juice.

Expect that you will find most flavors a bit weak until you adjust your tastes from cigarettes. It is amazing just how much your taste palate with improve as you stop smoking. You will smell and taste a lot more within a week of stopping analogs.

Also If you got a no nicotine juice, there will not be a Throat Hit to replace the lung/throat burn of a cigarette. I hate to say it but it will not be fulfilling to begin with. Also the English Toffee will be a softer more subtle flavor than a lot out there. If you are looking for satisfaction in a cigarette way to begin with try a few samplers of tobacco flavors. I personally think the Camel/Turkish flavor or Sept. Wolves is one of the more realistic cig effects though there are a lot of flavors and really none of them quite taste like a cig. 24mg is a good starting point for replacing a nicotine habit but you may quickly find you dont need as much or you may need more.
Picking up VG is a good idea You can judge an average drop by a small eyedropper and VG juice. If you ever want to see the maximum vapor your ecig can produce, start with a dry Atty add 3 small standard glass eyedropper drops of vg to the bridge and puff a few times. No flavor just a little sweet but a literal cloud should result on a 510.

Hang in there it will come together. These take a little patience to begin with but really pay off. The 510 is a great choice to begin with so hang tough.

 

[MsSki]

Im a 510'er here Give time for the Atty to get broken in. I think you needed to get it primed, like said before 2 drops were not enough. I know for mine I need about 10 drops to get get her fired up right. For my refilling my carts i used the PTB with the ends frayed on them. Zero Nic isnt gonna give much of a Th , Dry carts no vap and yuck burnt taste from the atty. You just got it keep playing till you find your groove with it

 

[JamBandPhan]

You might want to try drawing more gently, the slower the draw, the more vapor you allow the coils to produce. Also the primer, even when blown out still lingers for the first day or so, and can make the flavor taste off, or not very strong. Your atty will need some "break in" time, so be patient, and try not to over work it. If you feel it getting too hot, set it down, let it rest. I also found that when you first prime a new atty, the juice takes a while to fully saturate the atomizer. You might want to try blowing it clean again, and drip 2-3 drops on the wick again. Good luck to ya!

 

[5cardstud]

Get yourself a 5volt passthrough, a 510 to kr808d-1 adapter, some cartos and vape away.

 

[devilazy]

Hi, I keep hearing you guys talk about breaking in and the atty burn off. What exactly does that mean? I've been dropping juice directly on the atty and on the sponge constantly making sure they're always enough, but not over. As for the atty, I just blew everything out and dropped about 3 drops right on the atty because I see a little is starting to form on the bottom but just very little. So what you guys mean are it needs time to adjust? Like as a new factory made it won't perform as well as it would later on even if I switch batts or attys? Sorry if that sounds a bit noobish :s

Let the drops form and fall on their own. If you are using the little white ecopure bottle from CigNot it should be a fairly average sized drop. Once the three drops are on the Atomizer go ahead and smoke it like a cig. Maybe a couple puffs to start but then just long steady inhale. The 510 atty may take a few rounds to break in but it will produce tons of vapor with a VG based juice.

What exactly does drops form mean? Like I stop as I said when I see it start forming on the bottom so if that's what you meant I should be doing fine. I dripped on the atty once and blew it clean and dripped on it for the second time already. Am I supposed to do so with an empty cart instead of a full one?

 

[tribalmasters]

Give it a short whilse, perhaps you haven't broken in the atty yet!!