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My first contact with Ramie Fiber often called China Grass, was on the Just Hemp Thread. where it was first mentioned.

I proceeded to try and like ramie because of it's fine silky fiber, and was super easy to work with. Wasn't till I built Rose2 that everything came together for me and Ramie. Have done some in depth builds and write up's when using Ramie and will include some of it here. I am now in the process of changing all my rba's over to Ramie as they require re-wicking, as you will see, some were way past due.

I know there has been some discussion on the hemp thread that Ramie deserves it's own dedicated thread, and I am of that belief, so have decided to do so. Most of this has been posted elsewhere so may be redundant to some, apologies, just want to give Ramie his due. lmao

This first entry into Just Ramie is entitled, the Way of the Ramie.!

This is from my post in another thread asking about wick options. And decided not to change it, and was a decent introduction, of Way of the Ramie. lol

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Have found Ramie Love!! I started with cotton then after going through 5 balls, went to degummed hemp fiber. Been loving Hemp, then stumbled on Ramie in the Just Hemp thread. Took some time to attain Ramie understanding, but now in the process of changing all my rba's over when re-wicking is needed.

Ramie has no noticeable taste with vape and provides a very clean rich vape from the first vape on. Ramie also has superior flow potential and is much more heat tolerant.

(RAMIE TOP: Sometimes called "china grass" or "china linen"; it is white, very lustrous, and looks much like white silk. Good for blending with wool. Ramie is rot resistant and heat proof and is thus excellent for table runners, placemats, etc.)

That was from the Woolery where I purchased mine. The "rot resistant and heat proof" description is what really caught my eye, sounds like good thing to have for a wick.

Ramie is a joy to work and wick with. Once saturated with juice, it compresses nice and tightly, and when the fibers are kept tight, neat and uniform, ramie flows like a fire hose. Rba's with juice control are greatly enhanced when using Ramie Fiber. Vape a bit dry, crack open jc a tad, instant response, starting to flood or turning the watts/volts down, and need less juice, turn jc down a tad and are rewarded with optimal flow.

Takes a tank or to for the fiber cell walls to become fully saturated, but once there, works like a well plumbed faucet.

Yep, Ramie love here. Main trick is dripping juice onto the fiber section that one will use to wick the coil, compressing it down and keeping the fibers straight and neat, trim away all the fly away fibers, and you have a wick that's easy to thread wrap and wick your coil.

Before Saturation:

Below is the section of ramie that I am working with to build a flash-e-vapor V2 rba/rda tank system. I have pre-treated about 2-3 feet of my fiber by gently boiling in a water & VG bath for 30 minutes or so. This is just a small section what I have cut and separated from the main strand.


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After Saturation:

I gently ran a thin line of juice down the length of the fiber, then gently working the juice into ramie from the middle out, taking special care to keep the fiber nice, straight and uniform. Once compressed neat and trimmed, this is what it looks like. Notice the thin strand that I had to peel off to get my wick just right. Very easy to peel off a section or add on some more if needed, always working from the middle out. One of the things I love about this fiber.


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All mounted, tails tucked, trimmed, saturated, and ready to vape. Vaped it first in dripping mode, love that feature of the flashi, before I tanked it. This build came out to 0.61 ohms and Vapes Quite Excellent!!



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I'm a Believer, a Ramie Believer that is. lmao.



Vape long and Prosper!!!



P.S.: the cat bites!


BTW, The Flashi is the 4th rba that's been swayed to the way of Ramie. Stellar vape, and yes, part of my Most Excellent Collection. :D


A special thank you to BJ43 and to all on the Just Hemp thread for introducing this fine fiber into my vape arsenal. A Most Worthy Contender Ramie be. Thanks Guys and Gals. With out the stellar posts of others, I would have near the quality vape that I have become accustom too. Very grateful to all contributing members of the ecf, and happy I found the ecf when searching for PT issues, my how much difference a years experience makes.
 

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The following is post I did on the Aqua thread, used the quotes so that those interested in the Aqua could find the thread easily.



Well been vaping on the same 0.3 ohm build for a couple months now, and is time to re-wick and dry burn the coil. Have recently gone to Ramie Fiber for my wicking needs, so once I dry vaped the Aqua, decided to do some maintenance, it was past due. lol

Here's a pic after taking the wick out, very nasty and coil ends gunked over.



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Here she is after dry burn, used some twisted wire pieces to open up the clogged coils and cleaned up fairly nice!! While cleaning was thinking of a way to brush file and clear out the air passages, and saw some end trimmings of twisted wire combos, and though, hmm, looks like a rasp or file, worked great for cleaning the coil carbon after dry burn, and clearing/cleaning down the coil center and airways too. Just another reason to try twisted wire folks!!! lol.


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This is the stand of Ramie Fiber I'll be using to wick the Aqua. Love working with this stuff, so long and silky, and compresses nicely and makes wicking the coil a pleasure. Great flow capacity and heat tolerant, more so than cotton or hemp.


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Here's a pic of the same fiber strand, saturated with juice, compressed, fuzzies trimmed and flattened out, aligning all the fibers nice, straight and neat for maximum juice flow!!



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Have the coil all wicked, wrapped and tails tucked into the juice channels, ready for assembly and trim. On the ohm meter is a small piece I had to strip off for just the right coil coverage. Very easy to do. I then cut the stand in half to make my 2 wick strands.


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Now have chimney screwed down and all the tails straight, uniform and down tight awaiting trim.



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All trimmed up and ready for assembly!!! :D


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Nothing like a fresh Cut and a Dry Burn to freshen up ones vape. Still have that "Aqua Love" here. Damn fine vape. Really, really, liking the way of Ramie. My new wick of choice. Took a bit to understand each other, but once I took care to keep all the fibers straight and neat, it's been wicking incredibly well, and when you crack open the JC it like turning on a fire hose, offering great juice supply. Takes about a day of vaping, or so, for the fiber cell walls to get fully saturated and expanded, but once fully broke in can leave the jc at your current vape level, and if you crank up the watts, an easy 1/4-1/2 turn allows for instant increase of juice. Just like any other pressurized fluid control system. Fraking awesome fiber. Just thought I'd share my bi-monthly maintenance and Aqua review. lol

Vape long and prosper!!!

P.S.: the cat bites!

Another "Most Excellent" build. Falling in Aqua love all over again!!
 

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This is the builds where everything came together and Ramie Love was discovered. A fine Fiber worthy an exquisite rba tank system!! Ahh, love at first Vape!!


Have 2 incredible builds now for Rose, that are simply expanding my Vape Conscience. They are that good. Both are using dual stands of twisted wire, both using Rami Fiber for wicks..

The first "Excellent Build" was a vertically mounted dual series coil with external rami wick. Used ribbon & round twisted together, Tiger Wire. Came out to 1.4 ohms. Used ~16 gauge mandrel with the coil winder, making a single micro coil. Looks to be about 10 wraps, then bend it in two, creating a V. /\ , pinched and torch to set.




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Don't have photos of my wicking process, was getting late/early and wanted to complete build. Working with ramie fiber is a joy, it's one of the most purrfect wick fibers I've encountered. Each angel hair fiber is continuous throughout its length. It's like what nano fiber optics cable would look like.

I place a pre-juiced strand between the coils. I just drip enough juice on the fibers to get them compressed, straight and flat. Once positioned and between the coils, I fold tails straight up and mount coil. Once securely mounted, flatten and straighten out the ramie fibers and wrap them around the outside of the coils and out the ending juice port. You now have a completely wrapped inverted V-Twin coil, but with 2 empty juice ports.

I then straighten out the exiting tails nice and split it in two and fold it back through the cup and out the apposing empty juice port, and repeat on the other side. Now there is a tail in every port. hmm, yeah, sticking with that, I now have a tail in every port. With rami, find it's beneficial, read that as "Very Important" to keep the fibers as straight and parallel as possible. Working a few drops of juice into it really helps taming loose ends and keeping everything tidy and optimal. So when wrapping, threading and tucking, I'll always untwist, straighten and flatten my fibers before proceeding.

On the wick legs that were folded back to fill the last 2 ports, I'll also tuck them down touching the bottom of the ceramic cup. My objective for doing this is two fold. One, I want a way to soak up and use any juice that gets over wicked, preventing flooding, and two, want to block the air from going around the out side of the wicks, and forcing it up the V-Twin coils.


My Second Excellent build is a horizontally mounted coil, using Savannah Wire, twisted ribbon, twisted around 28 awg Kanthal. Weighs in at 0.65 ohms, also wicked with Rami Fiber. Used a mandrel about 1/8" diameter, from the Artesian wire coiler.


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After saturating wick, threading through coil, mounting coil, straightening and separating my wick I have something like this:



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In this build I opted not to use the ceramic cup, wanted more room for my wick, and this allowed me to run the extra wick tails you see, to be tucked into the juice deck for retrieving excess juice and reducing flooding. Also feel be doing so, the ramie lying in the juice deck preforms similar function as the ceramic, and gives me a juice well so can really open up the throttle and run her wide open, Maximum Watts with less risks of flooding. So far tis working wonderfully for me.

Here is how Rose looks before her final trim, with all the tails tucked in nice and neat. Notice how straight, flat and uniform, all the fibers are.



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I then secure and tighten the chimney in preparation for the final trim, ensuring nothing gets snagged in the threads.


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All trimmed and awaiting assembly and fill up:



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Vaping and looking Quite Excellent straddling the futura 30.



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Ahh, Futura meets Rose, love at first Vape. Fortunately the twin girls play well together and like all my mods. Both these builds taste and vape fantastically. Both preform and easily wick at 30 watts. Things do heat up a bit with extended vaping, while providing a very orgasmic vaping experience. Can only take so much before am over nic'd and vape overload sets in, but DAMN is it good. Dial Rose back to a mild 23 watts, and one receives a stellar smooth, satisfying, flavorful vape. Warm, but not overly. Everything staying stable and cool with no overwarming tendency. Jc, cracked open 1/4-1/2 turn, will open up to a full turn when at 30 watts. Once the Ramie gets fully saturated, should be less sensitive.
 

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True on both accounts, but ramie ain't cotton, and doesn't swell like cotton. Once fully saturated, Ramie more or less firms up, and become fairly flexible.. That was one of the things I had to unlearn about ramie, you want it as tight and compressed as possible so it slide easy but firmly through the coil. making sure to straighten out any twisting applied to get it through. Once you start vaping and opening up all the fibers, they just firm up like flexing a mussel. Fitting nice and snug.

I actually messed with this fiber for weeks before getting to know it.
 

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A couple of my setups. I am using ramie about 95%' Just counted 11 RBAs setup with ramie. Still use hemp for one special tobacco that I like the extra woody flavor with.

Got vape mail, a few more TGTs...:)

Here is a new one set up with dual 29g at 1.2 ohm and ramie...:)

I took three strands of 29g clamped to a vicegrip and cross braided it like I would do my daughters braid 30 years ago. Pulled it tight with pliers after braiding. Wrapped 10 wraps around a 14g needle. Came out at .7 but now in use it is .8 ohms. Use about 2 in of ramie, not tight but snug.:)


 

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A couple of my setups. I am using ramie about 95%' Just counted 11 RBAs setup with ramie. Still use hemp for one special tobacco that I like the extra woody flavor with.

There is that about hemp, do enjoy it's nutty accent it gives to some juice flavors. My poor Aqua was on the same Hemp wick for 2 months, when I wicked it with ramie, hemp just kind of pulled off the coils in pieces, was way past due, but damn thing was still vaping decently, but the vape turned amazing after dry burn and new wick. Tis incredible what a little maintenance will do for ones vape quality! lol

I only have 3 or so rba's that haven't made the transition yet, and there's a couple rba's in the "unsatisfactory" box that may get dusted off and get a make over with ramie, and see if they can make the transition to "most satisfactory" then find them a mod to play with.

Is there a source for small quantities of Ramie...ounce or so..?

The only places I've seen Ramie, 8 oz's was the smallest amount available. Same thing about degummed hemp fiber. Easy to share with friends though. But when compared to like that xc-116, it's really quite the bargain. And at least Ramie actually does the job properly. lol Going to give a sample to a bud at work who I've corrupted into the world of rba's, regulated and mech mods. And he used to be so happy with a pt & ego. lol He'll probably will want to buy some after he tries it out, sooo, I guess if you know someone with a stash, you may find it at 1 oz. lol. Sorry couldn't be more help.
 

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Thanks for dropping by Jeremy. Been through a lot with you and many others on this forum. ECF is where the cusp of Vaping begins.

Ramie was love at first sight, fine golden silky locks were a thrilling delight. but we had some misunderstandings along the way. Couldn't think of the right thing to say!! Was so sure it was true Vape Love, but neglected to listen, was twisting it up, putting kinks in his piston, it took listening two hundred dollar Rose, 2 make me understand Sir Ramie. Ramie the Knight, with his golden locks, inserts so nicely inside of Princess Rose, two her satisfied delight... It's like they were destined to meet. Ramie completes Rose too. lol.

What I really appreciate about this fiber, is it's instant response with devices that have Juice Control. Vape kind of dry, crack the jc open a tad, instant response, on the verge of flooding, turn jc the other way, and all is Vape in the world. lol

BJ43 is the one the introduced me to Ramie, dude Vape rocks. Many fine people have met I, on ECF, am proud to vape with all.!!!
 

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This has been a great read! I guess I have a new wick to look forward to. I've been super happy with cotton, but looking at your Aqua build, it reminded me of how much of a pain it was to get wicked right, and at times I have to take it appart to re-wick because it's very temperamental. I'll have to order some to play with and we shall see if I re-wick all my other RTA's and RDA's.
 

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Is there a source for small quantities of Ramie...ounce or so..?

This has been a great read! I guess I have a new wick to look forward to. I've been super happy with cotton, but looking at your Aqua build, it reminded me of how much of a pain it was to get wicked right, and at times I have to take it appart to re-wick because it's very temperamental. I'll have to order some to play with and we shall see if I re-wick all my other RTA's and RDA's.

love trying different stuff. been doing the hemp for months and will order and try some of the rocking ramie. going out of town for a week but when I get back will give this stuff a go so if I have any questions will post back here.

You guys should get together and do a 3 way Ramie order, think with shipping it came to $21, for about $7 each you'd all have a decent supply.
 

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You guys should get together and do a 3 way Ramie order, think with shipping it came to $21, for about $7 each you'd all have a decent supply.

I just found it on Amazon for $15 + 3.95 shipping. Woolery is the vendor, but freight is cheaper through Amazon. I'm game for a group buy if anyone is interested in trying it out, but don't want to be stuck with 1/2 pound of the stuff just in case.
 

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If you guys want to try something that is apparently very similar In its properties; you can try rayon to see how you like it. All I can say is its the fastest wicking and the purest flavor out of everything I've tried. So if ramie is like that but natural, it will be great.

if you want to try rayon, Go in to walmart pick up a bottle of spring valley melatonin($4) the packing is rayon fiber. You get a lot of it, Pure & clean I've tested it, test with burn test make sure it smells like paper burning. That's what I've been using, it's very similar- bonus you'll have melatonin to help you sleep because you won't be able to stop vaping this stuff.
 
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I've been using ramie lately and I really like it. I liked cotton, liked hemp even more and now I think I like ramie even more than hemp. after reading your post I tried the ramie a little more compressed and a little more snug in my coil and I didn't like it at all so I went back to less dense and alls good in my wicking world :D

thanks BJ for turning me on to the ramie :)

I usually boil everything, I boiled cotton because when I didn't I got cotton taste, I also cleaned and boiled my hemp, but when I got the ramie I was lazy and decided it looked pretty damn clean so I tried it as-is and it's been fine right out of the package. I will eventually clean and boil a batch to see if there is any difference but so far it's been fine
 
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