Perhaps you should go back and reread my posts in this thread... at no point did I ever suggest for anyone to try to run high wattage. In fact, not once did I even make a suggestion for someone to use different equipment exept in the one case where I was specifically asked what they could do to get more flavor. I simply stated the answer to the op, why do I vape at high wattage. I do so because it provides a lot more flavor and vapor for me, which is what I enjoy. You on the other hand were the one who jumped in with your absurd suggestion that doing so was only for silly arrogant adolescents, which I can assure I'm not. It would appear you are in fact doing the very thing you suggest I'm doing. Stating that low wattage is the only way to get a vape that can be enjoyed.
Just want to understand the high wattage users
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Stubby, I know of no one that said the only way to vape correctly is with high watts, or that vaping low watts is silly or is some manner of 'adolescent testosterone laden thrill ride'. I know of no one who belittled low power vaping or vapers.
You OTOH say that high power vaping is 'silly' and that we are in it for the 'adolescent testosterone laden thrill ride' and we are all arrogant ('The biggest problem with high watts is the arrogance of the people doing it').
LOL, I think you need to up your nic level, or maybe try a slightly higher power setting on your PV
tj, no one said anyone was doing it wrong, except for Stubby who insists that high power vapers are ... well, see my post above this one
I didn't mean to imply that he was wrong--the idea was to find the best clearo for Rotowoman. And we all seem to agree that Aerotank bases are the best of all Kanger clearos because they offer air control instead of just two predrilled holes, whatever their size. With Aerotank base, you can adjust your airflow--up or down--depending on your preference, resistance of your coils, viscosity of your e-liquid etc.
I agree that the mini base has direct contact to the positive control. OTOH, because of that, it's not sealed on the bottom, so it MAY leak if it's not tightened properly. The bigger Aeros (regular, V2, mega, giant) all go through an adapter, which may bring some voltage drop, but they are also sealed, which offers some protection from leaks into the battery.
I use the mini on my smaller batteries, the larger Aeros (19mm and more) go on my tube mods. They all work fine.
ROFL Thank you for the LOLZ.
First off to state your incorrect opinion as fact publicly IS foolish.
Second off doing so shows you're uneducated on the subject matter for which you speak.
So the post you're responding to holds water. Your response, however...
Third off... The childish arrogance shown in your post is unbecoming. I get it. It's a flame post aimed at a high watt user attempting to show an arrogant child the err of his ways.
To set the record straight and self dispelled the last myth posted in the post you're defending... I'm middle aged. So one more thing your new buddy posted as fact that's far from the truth.
Now to dispell the garbage you're regurgitating.
I've turned many people on to vaping. None of them have the need for high watt vaping and I discourage it because of their limited electrical backgrounds usually.
I have 2 provari 2.5s.
I purchased 4 mvp 2.0s.
I purchased 2 billet boxes.
I have over a dozen ibtanks.
My kayfun can't run at 40 watts.
Neither can my clearos.
My father, mother and step father all vape under 8 watts thanks to me.
I have nothing against low wattage vaping except it doesn't work as a smoking cessation FOR ME. I wish it did.
You're buddys the one that apparently thinks the way you guys vape is the right way.
So how about we knock that chip off your shoulder? Unless you really want to keep doing this all over the forum as you've been doing. But something tells me it hasn't been working out as you've planned.
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Hi, it is personal preference. NO RIGHT OR WRONG HERE. if someone prefers higher wattage that is their progrative, just as lower wattage vaping is their progrative. No reason to argue the subject or get defensive on either side. It is what it is. It's personal prefrences. I personally prefer higher wattage vaping. Yes my mod will run up to 150 watts, have I gone that high, no but I have had a excellent vape at 135 watts. It is very dependant on your build and what your build allows you to do. Why do I do it? Because I enjoy a warm powerful vape. Am I wrong for that? No, it's a preference. Do I vape at lower wattage as well, yes I do. It depends on my unit and build and juice. I'm vaping a lower 14 watts as I write this. So I'm not stuck on only high wattage. But to answer your question op as to why, it's because they want to. Also because they like it. That's why people vape at higher wattages. For likely the same reason people vape at lower wattage. I hope this helps you understand. And remember, there isn't a right or wrong here. It's just preference.I used to smoke 2 packs a day now I don't because of vaping. That's what really matters here. If I want higher wattage that's ok, lower wattage is also ok. It just matters what we like personally. Hope this helps you understand.
I went from 2.5-3ml/day to 10-15ml/day going from a VTR running at 15w with a rebuilt/microcoil/cotton Protank 2 to a Sigelei 100w running 65-80w with a Plume Veil RDA.
I also went from 18mg to 6mg.
I also went from 18mg to 6mg.
As a relative newbie to the vaping world, I was drawn to this thread also because I was interested in the response of those who vape at higher wattages. I came to this thread with an open mind because I was genuinely interested in the responses. Not only did I learn some things about wattage, but also about air flow and other various things. My mind wasn't anywhere near cloud chasing or anything like that. I was interested because my current tools just leave me looking for a little bit more. This thread was highly educational for me. That doesn't mean I'm going to run right out and buy a new gadget or gadgets. I have way too much to learn before I go there, I would just hate to see this thread turn into a slam fest just because different things work for different people. That's the beauty of it all. Vaping is not a "one-size-fits-all" world.
Well said Rotowoman. A couple of years ago I was also looking for a little bit more from vaping. I found that a bit more power did it for me and I'm not looking anymore, though a bit of experimentation is sometimes still fun
It's interesting how the term 'cloud chasing' provokes such emotion in some people. There is a huge difference between someone who prefers to vape at 20-40 watts and someone who is a dedicated 'cloud chaser'. We don't have more than a few cloud chasers hanging out here at ECF. I suspect most people don't realize that. Things go in cycles too. This topic was a lot more heated a little while back than it is now. Some other hot topics have also come and mostly gone, some are hot right now and new ones are building. It's kinda interesting to watch it all unfold.
For sure, vaping is not a one size fits all thing and I think most sensible people understand that. Let's hope we can still vape the way we want to in a couple of years
You never did it Ryedan because you're sweet and smart and caring. But I know several people who do, unfortunately. I know sub-ohm/high wattage people who love to give advice in New Members forum and always recommend a mech mod and .3Ω coil or a 100 or 200 watt mod to a person who's looking for an upgrade from Blu or Vuse. It always starts with "I tried Blu (or V2 or eGos or whatever) and it's crap." And then there are those who always recommend a ProVari--to everyone.
I talk daily to new vapers seeking advice--they want to stop smoking, they are often desperate, sick, have a family member who's battling COPD, cancer, or some other terrible disease. Most of them don't seek "superior flavor" (whatever that is) or a new hobby--they are in a fight for their lives. Many are on a tight budget and can't afford a ProVari or SvoeMesto or a DNA. Many have disabilities--poor eyesight, limited motor skills, arthritis and can't even refill their toppers without a struggle or hold a heavy PV comfortably, let alone wind their own coils. They look for something simple, something as easy as smoking--often a cigalike. Telling those people to get a mech, a multimeter, a charger, AW IMR batteries, some Kanthal wire, a butane torch, a pack of Koh Gen Do Japanese cotton from Sephora and a Squape is really not going to help them.
I have been crtitized myself, several times, for recommending simple PVs like vv eGo-class batteries and clearomizers.
When I told somebody she didn't need a ProVari, I was ridiculed by a fanboy who told me that "I don't know what I'm talking about because only a person who tried a ProVari can comprehend how great it is." I didn't bother to tell him that I was a ProVari owner myself. There are millions of people worldwide who quit smoking with cigalikes, eGos and MVPs. Safety first. Once they get a hang of it, and either feel that they need more or would like to experiment with more advanced gear, that's entirely up to them. But recommending high-wattage DIY gear to unsuspecting Blu vapers is irresponsible and dangerous.
When I first got my driver's licence, I bought a used beat up Oldsmobile. It was built like a tank.
Once I felt confident as a driver, I sold the Olds and got a fast and muscular (convertible) sports car--I was young and unafraid and I wanted to have fun and to be noticed. When my children were born, I switched to minivans... Now I drive a small hybrid. Whatever works.I'm beginning to understand the benefits of high wattage vaping with proper equipment--mainly thanks to vapers like you--who took the time to explain it to me. But the term "high wattage" is vague--what's high? 20 watts? 100? I will most certainly get a DNA 40 mod soon because I'm really intrigued by the new technology, but I'm also convinced that I will never buy a 400W "competition mod."
But then I will never go sky diving or drive a monster truck either.
For people who are no longer just trying to quit smoking but are obsessed with the vaping hobby, high watts are great. I include myself in this group. Its a different market, unrelated to cigarette smoking.
Katya: Outstanding post!!!
I really do think there should be some kind of limits or qualifications to giving advice in the new users section.
Though there is a balance to be had as well. I have sent one inquisitive user to the site who was looking to get into mechs and rebuildables. He exhibited a minute electrical understanding but a great eagerness to learn. He for example needed to be pointed toward safety training and given suggestions on hardware.
But what I often see in the new users section... well... I just don't have the patience for it. Rather than be a nuisance to the mods, I just don't post there.
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I really do think there should be some kind of limits or qualifications to giving advice in the new users section.
Though there is a balance to be had as well. I have sent one inquisitive user to the site who was looking to get into mechs and rebuildables. He exhibited a minute electrical understanding but a great eagerness to learn. He for example needed to be pointed toward safety training and given suggestions on hardware.
But what I often see in the new users section... well... I just don't have the patience for it. Rather than be a nuisance to the mods, I just don't post there.
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Truth! I have my CCI Militia built to .2 on my Oni+inline volt meter now and on a fully charged battery I'm getting 3.21 volts to my atty. With a 1.2 ohm coil however the drop is only .13. The load you put on your battery greatly effects the power you pull from it.
You never did it Ryedan because you're sweet and smart and caring. But I know several people who do, unfortunately. I know sub-ohm/high wattage people who love to give advice in New Members forum and always recommend a mech mod and .3Ω coil or a 100 or 200 watt mod to a person who's looking for an upgrade from Blu or Vuse. It always starts with "I tried Blu (or V2 or eGos or whatever) and it's crap." And then there are those who always recommend a ProVari--to everyone.
I talk daily to new vapers seeking advice--they want to stop smoking, they are often desperate, sick, have a family member who's battling COPD, cancer, or some other terrible disease. Most of them don't seek "superior flavor" (whatever that is) or a new hobby--they are in a fight for their lives. Many are on a tight budget and can't afford a ProVari or SvoeMesto or a DNA. Many have disabilities--poor eyesight, limited motor skills, arthritis and can't even refill their toppers without a struggle or hold a heavy PV comfortably, let alone wind their own coils. They look for something simple, something as easy as smoking--often a cigalike. Telling those people to get a mech, a multimeter, a charger, AW IMR batteries, some Kanthal wire, a butane torch, a pack of Koh Gen Do Japanese cotton from Sephora and a Squape is really not going to help them.
I have been crtitized myself, several times, for recommending simple PVs like vv eGo-class batteries and clearomizers.
There are millions of people worldwide who quit smoking with cigalikes, eGos and MVPs. Safety first. Once they get a hang of it, and either feel that they need more or would like to experiment with more advanced gear, that's entirely up to them. But recommending high-wattage DIY gear to unsuspecting Blu vapers is irresponsible and dangerous.
When I first got my driver's licence, I bought a used beat up Oldsmobile. It was built like a tank.
I'm beginning to understand the benefits of high wattage vaping with proper equipment--mainly thanks to vapers like you--who took the time to explain it to me. But the term "high wattage" is vague--what's high? 20 watts? 100? I will most certainly get a DNA 40 mod soon because I'm really intrigued by the new technology, but I'm also convinced that I will never buy a 400W "competition mod."
But then I will never go sky diving or drive a monster truck either.
Whenever someone asks me about what kind of gear they should start out with, I usually point them towards the itaste vv v3
that way they can start out small with regular clearos, but have a little room to grow as they figure things out- Status
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