Kanger: Unauthorized website selling counterfeit goods

[Ou2mame]

fasttech = capitalism

 

[Pinggolfer]

fasttech = capitalism

Or communism at it's best.

 

[Thrasher]

Thanks for the info. I was wondering how these companies worked. It IS true, old people know things.

Lol, gee thanks ( I think)

Just comes down to hating disinformation, I'm not always right, but I hate not knowing the truth.
I kinda lost interest, but I did track down fasttech parent company but never got around to finding out what other sites they run..

I know a lot of people don't trust them but they are a 30000 sq ft warehouse dead center of the manufacturing district, they have nothing to gain and a lot to lose ripping people off, they are far from being some fly by night Chinese peddlers in some rickety little warehouse

Sad part is very few retail stores come anywhere near fasttech warranty and returns guarantee, if you don't like something send it back most cases you have a month easy, while vendors here say doa returns only.
And they warranty almost everything.

 

[McFeely]

Strange 101 made the list, from what I've seen all their kanger stuff is legit. Yeah they sell clones of other stuff but its marked clone/authentic on the site.

 

[Papillon61]

I can safely say I have bought "style" products from Fastech and they were dirt cheap and a decent quality. I have also bought "authentic" products from Fasttech and successfully verified the scratch code every time.. Say what you will, I do trust the company. They never tried to sell me a clone as authentic - they just plain said it was a clone so you know what you're getting.

 

[Pinggolfer]

I know a lot of people don't trust them but they are a 30000 sq ft warehouse dead center of the manufacturing district, they have nothing to gain and a lot to lose ripping people off, they are far from being some fly by night Chinese peddlers in some rickety little warehouse

Are you missing a zero? 30,000 sq ft is the size of about the smallest Walmart which can go up to 220,000 sq ft.

 

[Papillon61]

Sad part is very few retail stores come anywhere near fasttech warranty and returns guarantee, if you don't like something send it back most cases you have a month easy, while vendors here say doa returns only.
And they warranty almost everything.

Here's another example of Fasttech service. I recently bought a "styled" mech mod from them. On arrival, the spring in the fire button was missing. I opened a ticket expecting them to send me a replacement spring. Within two days there was something new added to my "about to ship" order and it wasn't a spring - it was a full mod. Together with this I got a message: "Sorry for the issue. We will work on to improve the quality control process. We'll send you a replacement and ship via order#A060959620 ."

 

[Thrasher]

We run our own inventory and customer support center, in a modern loft of over 30,000 square feet


You have to remember its not a retail store so that's a small Walmart full of nothing but stock shelves.

 

[Monotremata]

Pretty hilarious that Vaping Cheap made that list considering all it is are reviews and coupon codes..

As for 101 Vape, highly doubt it. They sell alot of clone attys and mods but they are very upfront about it. I seem to remember this coming up before regarding them and another manufacturer (might have been Sigelei, cant remember) and it turned out that no 101 Vape doesnt get them direct but gets them from another third party distributor much like Fasttech. Thats probably why theyre prices are usually cheaper than most other US vendors.

 

[Siouxinpa]

What Fast tech does is trade in the 'Grey Market'. It's not a black market because all the items are legal. It's grey because they deal in authentic items but aren't an 'approved' retailer from the company.

The manufacturers won't sell to them so they find someone with a legitimate business, usually in a different industry, to make the buy for them. The new business opens an account, makes the buy and transships it to FastTech. They get a small cut for very little work.

This happens all the time in Asia.

 

[Ou2mame]

I buy a lot of things from fasttech and they've been great. If they screw up you send them a pic and they offer a refund or send you a new item. The downside is distance, but if the price is right I can wait. Sometimes I get my orders in 10 days.

 

[McFeely]

It's BS then, just because someone doesn't buy directly from kanger they shouldn't be outed as fake, someone bought them from kanger, they got their money.

 

[Ou2mame]

But they want to price fix!

 

[Papillon61]

Besides, how could I possibly live without all those tiny blue screwdrivers Fasttech keeps sending me with every order.

 

[Ou2mame]

I have a pile of them. They come with everything now haha

 

[mauricem00]

Fasttech is one of the few that will state if an item is "Authentic". When they have authentic items, it doesn't always mean they purchased the items directly from the authentic maker, which is what pisses off some of the name brand companies.

But tell me, if the factory that makes the 10,000 unit run for Kangertech, turns around and runs out another 20,000 and sells them directly to other places and them calls them "style", are they actually clones? Hmmm

I wonder how many "authentics" are made in the same Chinese factories that make clones? everything that I have purchased from fastech has worked well.however I have had a lot of problems with kanger coils and have had to rebuild them to get them to work properly and work for more than 2 or 3 days before they started flooding.

 

[wheelie]

Thank God for FastTech or I could not afford what I do! LOL

 

[GeorgeS]

Considering some 'clones' appear to be exact duplicates I've often wondered if ether:

• after factory fills order they run off xx% more for gray/black market
• workers in factory 'a' copy drawings/specifications and make their own run at factory 'b'
• someone actually spends the time to 'reverse engineer' to clone an existing product

the former sounds more believable than the latter in my book.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Considering some 'clones' appear to be exact duplicates I've often wondered if ether:

• after factory fills order they run off xx% more for gray/black market
• workers in factory 'a' copy drawings/specifications and make their own run at factory 'b'
• someone actually spends the time to 'reverse engineer' to clone an existing product

the former sounds more believable than the latter in my book.

That's the beauty of a unregulated business. No one cares. If a product doesn't work it gets put down here whether it's real or fake. Fasttech actually sold a clone of the iStick. Who would be stupid enough to buy the clone to save 2 bucks?

 

[Steamix]

What goes around, comes around.

Copycat products, copyright or patent rights infringement is something the world had to deal with since China turned into the global workbench.
Getting a dose of one's own medicine ... tastes bitter.
Get genuine thing, get the genuine-but-didn't-pass-quality-control-thing, get the genuine thing via backdoor channels, get knock-offs, get cheap knock-offs, get knock-offs of knock-offs....
gets progressively harder to to tell what you're really buying there...