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Wow. Great deals. But I choose not to patronize that supplier.

I've never ordered from HealthCabin cause their shipping has always been expensive.
Great deal for 7 bucks a subtank kit, bought several of them along with several bases and a couple discounted hitters. The rba alone is that price at most vendors. I spent 50 bucks and with all the discounts and the free shipping my order came to 30 so I couldn't loose. It looks like they shipped it Epacket cause Canada Post already has the package and it was shipped 3 days ago.
 

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    1st time ordering also. Still waiting to be shipped tho (ordered 5/13)
    $24.57... not bad for 4 STMs and 5 bases
    Free shipping

    Products
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    5 x Base for KangerTech SubTank Mini Atomizer (i-06-D-5-3) = $7.50
    Color - Black
    Model - SubTank Mini Base
    4 x KangerTech SubTank Mini Atomizer 4.5ml (b-02-G-3-4) = $27.60
    Color - White
    Model - SubTank Mini Atomizer
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    Sub-Total: $35.10
    Free Shipping(non Li-ion battery cell & liquid),7-30 business days.Shipping
    to US (1 x 1,123.00g(s)): $0.00
    Discount Coupon: 8yrhc : -$7.02
    First Order Discount: -$3.51
    Total: $24.57
     

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    I went back after my 1st order had shipped 2 days later and ended up making 2 more orders(about an hour apart). They have informed me they decided to combine my 2 orders and ship DHL. So far so good.

    :)

    They combined my orders too!


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    So I finally got my hands My STM Bellcap clone.

    $6.66 Free Shipping SUBTANK Mini Styled Bell Cap Clearomizer (Mini, SS + PMMA, Translucent (RBA Coil)) at m.FastTech.com

    FAIL! The thing was assembled poorly from the factory took me near an hour to get it apart. Then the top part of the RBA stuck to the chimney and had to dig that out.

    All is not lost tho. The RBA seems usable and I may have fixed the base if I didn't bugger it up too much in the process. I've put those 2 parts aside for now.

    What I ended up doing was to create my own hybrid tank. Mounted the STM Bellcap on an eGo ONE Mega V1 base w/CLR coil. Fits perfectly without modding. The marking you may notice at the bottom of the chimney is from the STM RBA cap being forced on too far at the factory. 24 hours leak free so far.

    2017-06-24_20.06.41.jpg


    So I decided to try the same with my authentic STM tank. The chimney is a tad bit shorter on this one so I had to add an inverted topseal from an old PT2 coil and voila, it's doing fine as well.:banana:

    Notice that the tank is full all the way to the top of the glass? I think that plugging the chimney with a Q-tip while over-filling and the much smaller CLR coil gives these tanks close to 6ml capacity! Just be sure to leave enuf air bubble so you don't get vacuum lock and dry hits.

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    JustWondering1

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    So I finally got my hands My STM Bellcap clone.

    $6.66 Free Shipping SUBTANK Mini Styled Bell Cap Clearomizer (Mini, SS + PMMA, Translucent (RBA Coil)) at m.FastTech.com

    FAIL! The thing was assembled poorly from the factory took me near an hour to get it apart. Then the top part of the RBA stuck to the chimney and had to dig that out.

    All is not lost tho. The RBA seems usable and I may have fixed the base if I didn't bugger it up too much in the process. I've put those 2 parts aside for now.

    What I ended up doing was to create my own hybrid tank. Mounted the STM Bellcap on an eGo ONE Mega V1 base w/CLR coil. Fits perfectly without modding. The marking you may notice at the bottom of the chimney is from the STM RBA cap being forced on too far at the factory. 24 hours leak free so far.

    View attachment 666955

    So I decided to try the same with my authentic STM tank. The chimney is a tad bit shorter on this one so I had to add an inverted topseal from an old PT2 coil and voila, it's doing fine as well.:banana:

    Notice that the tank is full all the way to the top of the glass? I think that plugging the chimney with a Q-tip while over-filling and the much smaller CLR coil gives these tanks close to 6ml capacity! Just be sure to leave enuf air bubble so you don't get vacuum lock and dry hits.

    View attachment 666957

    Wow! That's wonderful to know! I am impressed and I'm adding those bell caps to my FT wish list. I love my Ego One Megas and the CLR coils. Will you post this in the CLR thread? There are a lot of people who would love to know about this.
     

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    Wow! That's wonderful to know! I am impressed and I'm adding those bell caps to my FT wish list. I love my Ego One Megas and the CLR coils. Will you post this in the CLR thread? There are a lot of people who would love to know about this.
    Already posted there.
     

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    Nice post. Why the heck did they make the holes smaller on RBA Plus V2?
    I realize this is an old post but I am very interested in this topic as I have, & use, the tanks being discussed. Did you ever get an answer to this question? I'm wondering the same thing...

    I've tried a # of diff tanks but always end up coming back to these. (Toptank mini & Subtank mini) Not sure what my deal is??? My toptank mini has been giving me leaking issues as of late & I wasn't sure why. After reading this post, I'm beginning to get some ideas. Plz excuse my stupidity but would any of you be able to provide some options as far as prebuilt coils for primarily my toptank mini? I'll take rec for both however. I am looking for something comparable that will allow for "greater juice flow". I'm a bit of a power hitter, so to speak & can easily end up burning through coils very quickly if I'm not careful. I just am not certain which coils will wk in these tanks, outside of Kangertech. I read somewhere the Nautilus coils wk beautifully but have not yet given them a try. (I REALLY like the size of my Crown 3 coils!)

    I apologize for the lengthy reply. I moved back to Austin & left behind an AMAZING family run vape shop in Fbg, who had THE BEST staff ever! Talk about cs @ it's finest. Doubt I'll find anything like it here but I'm trying to remain optimistic. ***fingers crossed

    Thanks in adv for any advise/recommendations you may have for me.

    ~Beck
     
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    I realize this is an old post but I am very interested in this topic as I have, & use, the tanks being discussed. Did you ever get an answer to this question? I'm wondering the same thing...

    I've tried a # of diff tanks but always end up coming back to these. (Toptank mini & Subtank mini) Not sure what my deal is??? My toptank mini has been giving me leaking issues as of late & I wasn't sure why. After reading this post, I'm beginning to get some ideas. Plz excuse my stupidity but would any of you be able to provide some options as far as prebuilt coils for primarily my toptank mini? I'll take rec for both however. I am looking for something comparable that will allow for "greater juice flow". I'm a bit of a power hitter, so to speak & can easily end up burning through coils very quickly if I'm not careful. I just am not certain which coils will wk in these tanks, outside of Kangertech. I read somewhere the Nautilus coils wk beautifully but have not yet given them a try. (I REALLY like the size of my Crown 3 coils!)

    I apologize for the lengthy reply. I moved back to Austin & left behind an AMAZING family run vape shop in Fbg, who had THE BEST staff ever! Talk about cs @ it's finest. Doubt I'll find anything like it here but I'm trying to remain optimistic. ***fingers crossed

    Thanks in adv for any advise/recommendations you may have for me.

    ~Beck

    Not going to spec on Kanger's motives BB. What's discoverable you know if you've some exp with any of the RDA variations is that limited juice flow will give you a drier more diffuse vape. As if…all of us were using ST's to blow clouds. Sure, hah. You're on target with your observation. Makes no sense.

    To get these tanks working favorably you need to match juice, air and power flow. Find that balance and they're remarkable. Because bottom feed tanks can vary wildly in vacuum with temp change and as juice supply is consumed the end result in vaporization rate can see dramatic differences. So it's a challenge. I've always argued that the best way to diagnose these changes is to build to a consistent baseline that largely satisfies you. That way you build yourself a broad happy zone. Search on my handle for those references here and elsewhere. Glad to help if I can.

    Good luck BB. :)

     

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    I realize this is an old post but I am very interested in this topic as I have, & use, the tanks being discussed. Did you ever get an answer to this question? I'm wondering the same thing...

    I've tried a # of diff tanks but always end up coming back to these. (Toptank mini & Subtank mini) Not sure what my deal is??? My toptank mini has been giving me leaking issues as of late & I wasn't sure why. After reading this post, I'm beginning to get some ideas. Plz excuse my stupidity but would any of you be able to provide some options as far as prebuilt coils for primarily my toptank mini? I'll take rec for both however. I am looking for something comparable that will allow for "greater juice flow". I'm a bit of a power hitter, so to speak & can easily end up burning through coils very quickly if I'm not careful. I just am not certain which coils will wk in these tanks, outside of Kangertech. I read somewhere the Nautilus coils wk beautifully but have not yet given them a try. (I REALLY like the size of my Crown 3 coils!)

    I apologize for the lengthy reply. I moved back to Austin & left behind an AMAZING family run vape shop in Fbg, who had THE BEST staff ever! Talk about cs @ it's finest. Doubt I'll find anything like it here but I'm trying to remain optimistic. ***fingers crossed

    Thanks in adv for any advise/recommendations you may have for me.

    ~Beck
    The toptanks lose their vacuum when opening the topcap, when used with high pg-juice it could cause leaking issues through larger holes, that's probably why they narrowed down the juiceholes on this tank. Maybe there were complaints about leaking issues of the STM RBA too, we might never know. You can still get RBA clones with the original sized (bigger) holes though.

    When you have leaking issues maybe you need to replace some o-rings or use more wick.

    Due to the limited airflow, space of the builddeck and limited juiceflow i never managed to use very low-Ohm coils or too much Wattage. Somewhere around 0.4 Ohm and 25-30 Watt is pretty much as low and high as i can go on a Subtank or Toptank.
     

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    The toptanks lose their vacuum when opening the topcap, when used with high pg-juice it could cause leaking issues through larger holes, that's probably why they narrowed down the juiceholes on this tank. Maybe there were complaints about leaking issues of the STM RBA too, we might never know. You can still get RBA clones with the original sized (bigger) holes though.

    When you have leaking issues maybe you need to replace some o-rings or use more wick.

    Due to the limited airflow, space of the builddeck and limited juiceflow i never managed to use very low-Ohm coils or too much Wattage. Somewhere around 0.4 Ohm and 25-30 Watt is pretty much as low and high as i can go on a Subtank or Toptank.
    THANK YOU SO MUCH for your timely reply! Interesting you mention the orings as that thought occurred to me almost immediately after I posted my question. Due to the fact the leaking has been from the bottom of the tank, (adjustable air flow holes), I went ahead and removed the hardware & took out the oring to see if I could find any nicks or damaged areas. I also figured a quick cleaning couldn't hurt anything. I had never replaced the orings & thought there was a good chance it had some "wear & tear". I didn't locate anything damaged but of course there was a small amount or traces of dried juice that had accumulated under the oring so I cleaned it out real good & put the old oring back in & filled the tank. I guess I need to check the top one as well? I assume it would have an impact on any pressure issues that could be taking place?
    As far as juice goes, I am having the issues no matter what juice I put in the tank. Some of what I like in that particular tank is the same juice I've always vaped, even before the leaking began. Or perhaps I had some before but never even noticed. If so, it was nowhere near what it is now. When you say high pg, how high are you talking about? I don't consider any of my juice high pg, but perhaps I'm idea of high pg is not accurate. If available, I tend to go high vg as I learned that for me, a thicker juice is better due to the way I vape, or the "hits" I like to take. I have also upgrade hardware a few times since I began vaping & therefore have compensated for that by increasing the strength of vg in my juices. If I were to use high pg, I would burn up my coils immediately. Please feel free to correct me if ANYTHING I'm saying is not accurate as I know I'm far from a vaping expert. lol To give you an idea of my idea of high pg/vg juices, I will not purchase anything greater than 50/50. I try to get something closer to 60/40, at the very minimum, if possible, and I'll go all the way up to 100% vg. HOWEVER, that isn't what I put in my toptank or subtank mini's. That would go in one of my crowns. I will say this, the leaking tends to be much worse when the juice gets hot. For instance, when I leave my device in my car too long. This made perfect since to me as the liquid thins out as the temp rises, so I try to be mindful of where/how long, it's left in the heat.
    And lastly, one other thing I did yesterday immediately following my post was diagnose the inside of my coil. I just replaced it but it appeared there was a very small, really small, area where I thought it might could use some additional wicking. Now remember, I do not build my own coils so this was strictly speculation on my part but thought what the hell, I have nothing to lose, so I cut a tiny piece of cotton (yes, I used cotton from the rda kit that comes inside the Kangertech tank box), & filled in that small area. I had no idea if it would actually make a difference, fall right out, or what might happen, but I was willing to take the risks. So far, so good. I haven't used that take a whole lot since my post as I was kinda waiting to see if I would get any replies....Low & behold, you came through, & I'm extremely grateful for that. So again, many thanks for all your info, & help with my MANY questions. I truly appreciate your time as I'm certain you have much more fun & exciting things to do w your time.
    Cheers,
    Becky
     

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    @BeckB Most welcome. Few quick answers...

    If your tank is leaking through the airflow you might be overfilling it from the top, causing the juice to run straight through the chimney into the coil, from there into the airflow.

    Also check if the base itself is still OK. See if the 510-connector pin is still in place.

    When replacing or cleaning the o-rings (i'd give replacing a try) make sure you lube them well all over with liquid. Also make sure you didn't lose the flat o-ring on the base, seen that happen a few times. It's the bottom one in this pic (Subtank, but similar ring at the base):
    06092241_5576ed09a720d.jpg


    By high-pg juice i mean 80-20 or 70-30. VG is thicker, PG is a lot thinner, so PG wouldn't likely burn your coils faster. And yes heat does thin juice. Leaving your battery in a hot car however is not advised and potentially dangerous, but also wears out your battery faster.

    You might want to try these 0.5 Ohm ssocc coils when using factory coilheads:
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    $7.81 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK SSOCC Coil Head (5-Pack) - 0.5ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
     

    BeckB

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    @BeckB Most welcome. Few quick answers...

    If your tank is leaking through the airflow you might be overfilling it from the top, causing the juice to run straight through the chimney into the coil, from there into the airflow.

    Also check if the base itself is still OK. See if the 510-connector pin is still in place.

    When replacing or cleaning the o-rings (i'd give replacing a try) make sure you lube them well all over with liquid. Also make sure you didn't lose the flat o-ring on the base, seen that happen a few times. It's the bottom one in this pic (Subtank, but similar ring at the base):
    06092241_5576ed09a720d.jpg


    By high-pg juice i mean 80-20 or 70-30. VG is thicker, PG is a lot thinner, so PG wouldn't likely burn your coils faster. And yes heat does thin juice. Leaving your battery in a hot car however is not advised and potentially dangerous, but also wears out your battery faster.

    You might want to try these 0.5 Ohm ssocc coils when using factory coilheads:
    3848003-6.jpg

    $7.81 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK SSOCC Coil Head (5-Pack) - 0.5ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    AWESOME!!! THANKS SO MUCH!!! YOU ROCK!!!

    I do believe those are the exact coils I ordered! And I ordered them from FastTech! Now I can't use them in all of my Kangertech mini tanks, can I? (Toptank & Subtank)

    Guess I was wrong about which pg/vg ratio would be best for me. I thought I needed the thicker juice. I'm glad you cleared that up!!!
     

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    Not going to spec on Kanger's motives BB. What's discoverable you know if you've some exp with any of the RDA variations is that limited juice flow will give you a drier more diffuse vape. As if…all of us were using ST's to blow clouds. Sure, hah. You're on target with your observation. Makes no sense.

    To get these tanks working favorably you need to match juice, air and power flow. Find that balance and they're remarkable. Because bottom feed tanks can vary wildly in vacuum with temp change and as juice supply is consumed the end result in vaporization rate can see dramatic differences. So it's a challenge. I've always argued that the best way to diagnose these changes is to build to a consistent baseline that largely satisfies you. That way you build yourself a broad happy zone. Search on my handle for those references here and elsewhere. Glad to help if I can.

    Good luck BB. :)

    RIGHT ON! THANKS SO MUCH!!! I truly appreciate your reply & all of the info you have provided.

    I'm loving this site! You guys are rock stars!!!

    Cheers,

    Beck
     
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