Not sure what being a lefty has to do with anything other than it keeps me in the Right state of mind...
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Not sure what being a lefty has to do with anything other than it keeps me in the Right state of mind...
Thanks for tellin' me. Don't tell them, but you can wind circles around us V.
Good luck and glad the tip worked for you. I'm really most concerned about that end turn contact. That's what most easily fouls the vape with cotton or rayon is losing that good wick contact. Any wick really. Pouffy is good!
Now that I've turned my attention to the ends of my wick, I wonder how much of my 'issue' with the cellucotton rayon was actually operator error... I'm willing to bet, it was all me... lol I guess I'll have to give it another shot...I found it easier to pooouf rayon without breaking the fibers apart like cotton...
Question about twisted coils... Do you wind twisted coils using the tension technique?
Seems odd that you cannot buy the tank kit on the site, only parts... maybe I am missing it?
Yeah, I know, I recall your first post on that. And runnin' these tanks through the ringer I think you might be on to something. Kanger's done a good thoughtful job here. If these things had juice control, damn, game over. Which is what I thought about the Protank from day one (for air). I've been doing the channel mod experiment on my Immortalizers which are my favorite atty. My focus you've probably seen is optimizing wick/mass/surface area. Tryin' to radiate the juice, not the air. LOL Otherwise all that channeled juiciness don't mean much.
I'm the guy with the shirt sleeves rolled up peeps drag in when the sh!!t hits the fan I'm "Radar". Got it covered. No value judgments. Waste of time. Get it done. A hands-on tech and consultant, seen enough of institution to know it can't be trusted. We have far more in common as human beings than divides us, the latter constructs. And the tribalism of the one hand is not much different than the gangland mentality of the other. I don't put much stock in labels but value individual worth, i.e. what you bring to the table. Make your mark; make a difference. The appearance of success is a poor substitute for the real thing but that's the world we live in. I have a simple economic philosophy too nobody knows better what to do with your money than you do.
So comin' full-circle when somebody fashions real value into something as Kanger's done here, I'm impressed. That's a flashbulb moment.
Good luck DP, thx for the bubbles.
Not sure what being a lefty has to do with anything other than it keeps me in the Right state of mind...
I agree! We need more canals.
Good luck.
I am right handed. Not sure if I'm just hungover or if there is some hidden meaning to that comment that I'm missing lol.Well lemma ask ya, either of you two guys left handed?
There ya go..
I tend to use 60/40 for my go to Dr Crimmy's juices. But I recently picked up an entire max VG line from a local juice maker and I do find it has a harder time wicking no matter what I'm using it in.Better quality and focus than my Kyocera takes
Do you use high VG juice? Is that why you modded it? I'm considering doing something similar with mine.
Thanks for the link, my wife has been waiting for the purple rings for weeks.
$4 bucks shipping for a 2 dollars set of envelope friendly O-rings....
Keeping wifey vape happy, priceless.
I'll explain it this way. There's no perfect wicking material. Flavoring is full of pigments, complex molecules. The richer the spice, the greater the flow (power/wick) the more agglomeration. Think sponge. Eventually you saturate. Time to rewick/wash/chuck. It's the physical universe. Some wicks tend to trap some kinds of pigments more than others, some more or less quickly depending on power (tobacco notably). I think rayon's excellent for less complex juices, KGD exceptional for the rich, ceramic fiber more neutral and more powerful than either. Getting the density right with any loose fiber like cotton or rayon takes practice and research as it varies for each device and wire/wind combo. Rayon I find to be trickier. Ceramic fiber exceptionally fast and predictable in flow and for installation. Japanese cotton absolutely exceptional for flavor. Organics for anything you can rewick routinely; ceramic fiber for those that must last days or weeks.
Problem for me is I'm flavor sensitive and can taste the nuances of each and every one of these materials. And cotton I can't "cancel out" as one can with use like silica. It becomes rather neutral, background. The residual taste of kilning of ceramic fiber though evaporates with use. What's left for all of them is that they exhibit a slightly different texture in the vape which we all of us perceive as a factor of taste. I find rayon for ex has a markedly drier texture and it makes for a diff in the flavor with some improved, others not. Cotton is luxuriant in its texture…wet, full and moist. Ceramic fiber far more neutral, increasingly so as it breaks in and that is a texture in and of itself.
Twisting wire is a PIA and if you use a hand drill you must tension the wire somewhat to keep the twists consistent and tight. It's a learned skill. Tension too much and you'll snap the wire prematurely. Worse still, the results vary depending on your drill (speed, torque). But I've loved twisted for the increase wick contact surface. I teach basic tension winds to get new vapers to the great vape fast. But multi-wire's been the ticket for me. And yes tension winding the coil itself with twisted will help get a better turn-to-turn adhesion for oxidation so you don't have to torch (but will require compression as you pulse). It will not get the coil to static adhesion. So it's rarely coherent enough to behave like a true microcoil. Such coils can be made to get cooler (higher phase transition efficiency) with tension, just not reliably.
That's why I had to work out stabilizing tensioned parallels with twisted leads. Benefits of improved light wire contact surface, not too high a res for the mass, fast firing and rock stable leads that resist separation and protect the tensioned element's integrity (easier, controlled installation). A great compromise between twisted and parallels (more wire mass/wick contact effectively deployed, more vapor = more flavor density, with warmth). Yes they're a little warmer than twisted. A lot less fiddly than havin' to drag out a hand drill every time ya wanna vape.
Anyway some thoughts on this for you and hopeful some will try this. It's not a beginners build but I find it no more difficult than twisted pair. And you gotta admit, it's pretty.
Good luck vj.
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I use a drill with a large "straightened" paperclip (leave the last curved end). Insert the straight end of the paperclip into the drill, tighten just like you would a drill bit. I cut a 5 ft strand of 28g kanthal, "fold" (do not crease) in half and hook that to the curved end of the paperclip, hold the two ends together with a good pair of pliers, stretch/pull away from the drill until tensioned straight out. Start drill slowly to begin wind, speed up while holding good tension away from the drill. You will feel it begin to draw toward the drill as the winds get tighter. Go a little more to get good even twists. When you stop the drill and let go, the twisted wire should stay straight and flat, not spring back or tangle/loop on itself. Cut pieces as you need to wind new coils. The longer you wind, the tighter the twists...I have about 3 different tension versions depending which deck and juice I am using.
Wind your coils with strong, tight tension. Twisted wire wants to spring or open back up if not wound with enough tension. There are a couple of guys here who are the "tension masters" that have plenty of advice about that. Winding tension should be enough that the coil stays stable when you release your wind.
There are many other ways to twist your coil wire...this is just the way I do it with good results.
Stand up when you say that Mister. <In my best John W.>
Good 'splainin' there DP. I take the loop end of that palm-to-palm length and hook it into the tip of needle-nose plier which is held under the foot. The open end directly secured in the chuck of the drill pulled up taught to begin spinning. Gravity pulling down on the drill along with the subtle change of downward pressure the wire produces as it twists (compacts) can be felt. A little practice and you can sense about how tight the twists have gotten (before the wire snaps). It's never going to be a precise art twisting wire. But it is useful that Dampmasskin incorporated twist count in steam-engine.
(You can do this sitting down too and watch the wire close up. Even magnified.)
Good luck all.
I agree. Sweet Vapes has the RBA section alone for sale, yet the Kanger site does not?? You would think they would make every piece available (glass, RBA, insulators, ect....), the atty's themselves seems like a given. Makes you wonder if the are in the process of a redesign.
I've found twisted to be a piece of cake to wind. About 10ft. at a time so don't have worry about twisting more for 4 months or so. Twisted lead parallels on the other hand are a pita to me. Next to impossible to set in the atty without distorting the wind. Tried 6 times. Forget it. Not experiencing any vaping benifit over regular contact micros anyway.
I run spaced twisted coils in every RTA I own. The flavor is best I've ever had and no harder to wind or install than single strand with proper tension winding techniques. Don't have to rewick near as often either. Add tensioned spaced twisted coils to the list of things they'll have to pry from my cold dead hands; right along with kgd.
I run spaced twisted coils in every RTA I own. The flavor is best I've ever had and no harder to wind or install than single strand with proper tension winding techniques. Don't have to rewick near as often either. Add tensioned spaced twisted coils to the list of things they'll have to pry from my cold dead hands; right along with kgd.
MacTech and Cigatron, you guys are my twisted friends! For me a twisted 28 is my sweetest coil. Usually spaced, but some I do touching/pressed. Not sure you would call it a true micro, but usually since I only have 4 wraps, I space them....and taste 'em.
I was leaning toward black, but the purple intrigues me .. It is a cool [gender neutral] color without being like pink ! The baby blue is too bright. The clear will turn dingy in time from the juice. They don't show what the purple looks like. I like the purple of my Efest batteries.
The black would be cool with my setup of a black iPV mini and black Cherry Vapes cloud chaser drip-tip.
The black would be cool with my setup of a black iPV mini and black Cherry Vapes cloud chaser drip-tip.
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So I need to buy a 2nd Subtank mini (love it that much) but the first one I got was the clear insulator with the smaller round juice channels. Can someone recommend a vendor that they know they have the " latest and greatest" version?
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