kenthal wire question... which gauge so i buy?

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NeKro13

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So I am looking on amazon to buy some wire since its cheaper to buy the 100ft than to buy at my local vape shop at $1 a foot. I and using a nimbus and kayfun light plus only my nemi and vela clones. I just started using cotton and I'm liking it a lot over silica wire. My question is which gauge so I buy? Honesty al this ohms and stuff gets me lost, I don't have a meter to check the ohms and voltage and all that jazz. I build a setup and check for hotspots and add the cotton. I have used 30 and 28 and i don't know what the difference is to be honest. Can someone lead me in the right direction? Im leaning on going with the 30 gauge.... Am i right in picking that?
 

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Products - Lightning Vapes is where I get all my wire and SS Mesh. I like using 28 awg Kanthal for all my building needs of .3-2 ohm builds. Works great for all my Atomizers. I do recommend trying a sample of several different gauge wires before buying a 100' of something you may not use. Lightning vapes do carry a good selection, are fast and with free shipping for standard mail. They also use PayPal.
 

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I highly recommend you get an ohms checker, multimeter or pv that reads ohms.

I've been thinking of getting one but have know idea of what ohms i should be getting in my builds lol Ill see cape videos on youtube and when they talk about ohms and stuff I'm like ... are they talking about haha.
 

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I've been thinking of getting one but have know idea of what ohms i should be getting in my builds lol Ill see cape videos on youtube and when they talk about ohms and stuff I'm like ... are they talking about haha.

its more about checking for loose connections and short circuits (things that make your battery go boom)
if you don't know the ohms of the coil you could draw too much power from the battery and the battery could explode.
so you need to know the max amp rating for your battery and never use more than half of that rating
example
1.2 ohm coil 4.2 volt battery means you drawing 3.5 amps from the battery
if the battery has a 10 amp rating then its not likely to explode from over discharge.
most battery's / rigs (that use only one battery at a time) are going to be 4.2 volts.

so using this calculator Ohm's Law Calculator
you type in voltage of your battery, and the ohms of the coil you made (after you check it with your meter) and it will tell you amps.
if it says the amps is more than HALF of the amp limit of your battery you need pull out the coil and add another wrap to two to the coil.

when checking the ohms with your meter, you want to see a constant reading. it should jump around a bit for a second then hold steady (holding steady for more than 5 seconds). if the reading keeps jumping around you have an intermittent short or lose connection. if the coil reading is steady but very low then you have a short like coils touching the posts or other coils.

if your not careful your battery could "vent" it means hot gases and fire could come shooting out... (not joking)
IMR chemistry are much safer than standard protected lithium. because IMR will vent hot gas and not a fireball.

what mod and batteries are you using?
 
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its more about checking for loose connections and short circuits (things that make your battery go boom)
if you don't know the ohms of the coil you could draw too much power from the battery and the battery could explode.
so you need to know the max amp rating for your battery and never use more than half of that rating
example
1.2 ohm coil 4.2 volt battery means you drawing 3.5 amps from the battery
if the battery has a 10 amp rating then its not likely to explode from over discharge.
most battery's / rigs (that use only one battery at a time) are going to be 4.2 volts.

so using this calculator Ohm's Law Calculator
you type in voltage of your battery, and the ohms of the coil you made (after you check it with your meter) and it will tell you amps.
if it says the amps is more than HALF of the amp limit of your battery you need pull out the coil and add another wrap to two to the coil.

when checking the ohms with your meter, you want to see a constant reading. it should jump around a bit for a second then hold steady (holding steady for more than 5 seconds). if the reading keeps jumping around you have an intermittent short or lose connection. if the coil reading is steady but very low then you have a sort like coils touching the posts or other coils.

if your not careful your battery could "vent" it means hot gases and fire could come shooting out... (not joking)
IMR chemistry are much safer than standard protected lithium. because IMR will vent hot gas and not a fireball.

what mod and batteries are you using?

I am using vela and nemi clone, 18650 soy and samnug batteries.
 

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Samung- ICR18650-26F
SDI
2CC5
is rated to 5.2 amps...

Sony-se us18650outc3
is rated to 30 amps.

both of these batteries will vent a fireball, if not used correctly..

o really, I guess i got to hop onto youtube and try to understand all the ohms and voltage knowledge. If any of you guys have a link to one that would be great, if not ill just surf youtube and I'm sure ill find something.
 

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o really, I guess i got to hop onto youtube and try to understand all the ohms and voltage knowledge. If any of you guys have a link to one that would be great, if not ill just surf youtube and I'm sure ill find something.

if you must use the rig, i would only use the sonys until you get a multimeter. with out some way to check the ohms of the coil you run the risk of venting a battery. also you should look into IMR batteries 101vape.com has some good deals on IMR 18650s

basic electrical
picture a garden hose in your mind, this hose represents the wire and the water represents the flow of electrons.
Voltage is the water pressure
Amps is the speed the water is moving
resistance (ohms) is the back pressure caused by friction
it takes 1 volt to push 1 amp through 1 ohm
Watt(s) is a unit of power, Volts x Amps = Watts.
 

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To the op...
.30 ga Kanthal is thinner and will give you a higher resistence.
.28 ga Kanthal is thicker and will give you a lower resistence. It's a bit more durable and will withstand more abuse from rewicking. To me, it's easier to use.

The best advice you've gotten so far is to buy a multi meter or an ohms checker. If you refuse to do so, please don't go under 10 wraps of either ga kanthal making micro coils. But, buy an ohms checker!
 
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