KFL+...Sloth's Vapourney Continues

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I'll look more into the nano for my second one but it holds less right? I like that this thing can hold like 4 ml

Well I'm back because I went into the office to replace my fill-in (who is also my boss) and he said they need the computer so sent me back to my room LOL. I have the phone on me but otherwise I'm on ECF :p

Well I was wrong though this one wasn't flawless. I got a slight gurgle as I was putting it away - blew the liquid out while tipping it up and this seemed to fix it. Could this be from too many primer puffs? (I tend to clear the chamber with a no-fire hit after a big drag) and is it a sign I should rewick? also this wick isn't cracking and popping like the other one - sometimes in my PT i get the crackle and pop with a wick, sometimes I don't, not sure what's causing the difference or if it really matters much.

I did get the plastic section on and now it's sweet 'cause I can see, although, it's hard to tell when it's actually full/prevent it from getting too full; any tips on when to stop filling?

and Mota I have a link you sent me previously for the nano but could you possibly send me the link you sent Remie for replacement parts?

Not sure whats causing the gurgling. Could be the wick. If it doesnt come back it was probably just juice in the chamber. You can expect all sorts of mini-problems to arise. Itll take some trial and error. Also not sure what causes crackling and popping but sometimes I get it and sometimes its a nice smooth sound. If its vaping and tasting good dont worry about it. I usually put small amounts of juice in at first to make sure the wick is working good then Ill fill it up all the way. Just put in small amounts at a time, put the fill screw back in, check the level, and remove screw and add more if needed. Youll get a feel for it after awhile. Its so easy to refill I usually dont worry about filling it up all way.
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ok some some tasting thoughts on BP in kfl+ vs PT2. in the PT2, it was straight up banana - candy or natural, not sure, maybe a combo of both. but unmistakably banana flavor, nothing else. in the KFL+, I'm not even sure man. I like it a lot better though. I taste banana, but nowhere near the extent of in the PT. it is a much warmer vape, even at the same voltage and/or wattage settings. it's not hot-just warmer, more fulfilling. Maybe I'm tasting pudding but it's not what I expected from the pudding. It definitely tastes of banana but it's a more mingled, blending flavor with something else. And it's warm like warm banana pudding maybe...again not hot, not in any way harsh thats not what I'm getting at. Just...warm, creamy maybe. I guess it's a more balanced blend of banana and pudding flavors - just not what I expected, not really like a dish of banana pudding, but the name still fits? I don't even know, it's blowing my mind. Sooooooo good...but both tastes are good so it may be a juice I like to vape in both tanks at different times :)
 

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Not sure whats causing the gurgling. Could be the wick. If it doesnt come back it was probably just juice in the chamber. You can expect all sorts of mini-problems to arise. Itll take some trial and error. Also not sure what causes crackling and popping but sometimes I get it and sometimes its a nice smooth sound. If its vaping and tasting good dont worry about it. I usually put small amounts of juice in at first to make sure the wick is working good then Ill fill it up all the way. Just put in small amounts at a time, put the fill screw back in, check the level, and remove screw and add more if needed. Youll get a feel for it after awhile. Its so easy to refill I usually dont worry about filling it up all way.
Ill PM you that link soon

it's true, I really love the fill method on this VS PT2 - as sometimes when refilling a PT I wind up getting a gurgle just from taking the base off (only for a couple of hits, not a big deal). no gurgle since then though. all is well right now, and even hearing a few crackles here and there the more I vape it. good to know that's not a maker or breaker :) I used longer wick ends this time around, could be it. I'm still not sure how to really check the level because the juice is still completely covering the plastic section even after a fair amount of hits so it has the illusion of being full
 

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My KFLs were a game changer. I originally got two, one for me and one for my husband. Then I got obsessed with backups for a bit and when the KFL v2 came out I got 2 more. We have the plastic windows as well as drop kits but his ex-ADV as well as my primary are tank crackers so we never use them. I never know when it's cashed until I get that nasty lasty hit of juice (absolutely disgusting) but my husband can tell about 10 hits before he'd get that gross final hit.

When I started building them I had lots of problems with leaking and gurgling. To solve a current problem that isn't build based take off your drip tip and turn the tank upside down, I wait about 30 seconds for the air to reroute (no window to view it) and then I blow through the air hole on the bottom of the tank. While I do this I have a paper towel in place to catch whatever flies out of the top cap. I do this until no more comes out at which point I clean residue from the top. I put the the drip tip back on the and cover the air hole at the bottom with my finger I then press the fire button while sucking and in the middle of the hit I lift my finger and finish the hit. If this doesn't solve your problems it's a build based problem or a fill problem.

I had problems related to the way I was filling so now when I fill I load up a 3 ml syringe (with tip) with my liquid of choice and put it deep into the chamber. Keeping my finger over the air hole I then fill the tank, then I just put the screw back in and I'm good to go. I've only had one crap tank in the past month using these methods (build based problem) when in the beginning I had them all the time.

I hope this was helpful. Enjoy your brand new vape <3 Once you work the kinks out it's heaven on earth.

P.S. Too many primer puffs will affect your suction causing more gurgle problems than you would have previously encountered on a good build.
 
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thanks Snowdonia! I'll try these suggestions - it actually has continued leaking just a bit out those airholes, but not major at the moment. and crap - using BP in the plastic tank section right now...not a good idea X.X

Yeah Banana is notorious for cracking plastic tanks. My primary is cinnamon so I'm always rocking the full stainless steel build. If you saw it before I edited I added a P.S. about your primer puffs.
 

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gotcha - well, it's a build problem, because I did your fix and took several more awesome delicious hits and now it's leaking again. this time not just out the air hole, also the bottom of the plastic section. maybe I dont have it in good enough. Do I need to be concerned about over tightening any of these parts like i do with a PT? and have I damaged my plastic with one tank of BP or if I switch to Wakonda next and only use it for non crackers henceforth should I be ok?

I'm guessing it's either that my cotton tails are too long or the tank isn't assembled tight enough
 

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A full steel tank can't be too tight for me but be wary of screwing it down too hard onto mechs so it doesn't get stuck (it will). It could be your tails, when I build I cut tails and wet them down with juice to trap them the to the sides of the raised deck before I screw on my chimney, that way I can form their placement so I know they aren't going to get caught when I screw the chimney down. Also my first build mistakes were what I thought was bad wicking but it turned out my coil wasn't high enough off the deck and that caused my airhole to be partially blocked and destroyed suction.
 

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it wound up leaking bad from all over so I had to lose some juice...my coil is definitely raised enough, a fair bit over the screws holding down the wire ends. I think it was the wick...my first wick was perfect, this one had longer tail ends. it did still conform to the upper deck (i use the same method you describe here) but when taking the chimney off it wasn't still lying as perfect as my first wick was; one end was lifted slightly at an angle up over a screw x.x
 

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Banana will eat the plastic, sounds like that's what is happening. Once it starts it's over. So yes quite possible it's damaged with one tank. I saw a tank cracker juice basically eat a plastic clearo in 5 minutes at a shop.

Good luck and keep plenty of paper towels handy.

Truth, I only damaged one plastic tank and it happened as I was still putting juice in. Whoops!
 

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Also I love your Avi. A dog, a rocker, a sweater, a beard, wood paneling, all very cozy, it just screams this man has a big heart. Adorable. Definite pipe mod material :)

Thanks :wub: Adirondack Livin' Baby! (mmmm pipe mod would be sweet - wow (I used to love smoking pipe))

Thanks Snowdonia & Renorat - looks like I'm switching the plastic section back for the steel. gonna try a better wick and Wakonda.
 

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5440288/SM/KL_UserManual/KL_UserManual_ENG.pdf

This is the user manual for the KFL. I have the Kayfun 3.1 and I found that users manual as well. It does address the leaking issues as well as other interesting things. I have a clone, so of course I didn't get the manual and didn't even know much of this stuffs. Just muddled through with videos etc. Hope this helps.

Here is the manual for the 3.1 es:

http://www.meshweaver.com/temp/vaping/SVOEMESTO_KAYFUN_v3.1ES_USER_MANUAL.pdf

I love mine. It does leak at times but since I read that this is often due to things being loose and causing the vacuum loss I have been doing better.
 

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Thanks :wub: Adirondack Livin' Baby! (mmmm pipe mod would be sweet - wow (I used to love smoking pipe))

Thanks Snowdonia & Renorat - looks like I'm switching the plastic section back for the steel. gonna try a better wick and Wakonda.

SO JEALOUS. I'm from upstate NY and loved the Adirondacks. I'm going to be in Ohio for quite a while yet (probably until my husband retires) but I can't wait to return to the land that I feel at home in. I wanted a pipe style mod so I got the Kato Hammer, makes me feel like a steampunk intellectual.
 

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when you return to the ADKS you must come visit! I've got quite the nice digs to check out ;)

am I seeing right in the manual that I'm missing an o-ring, in the top cap part the mouth piece fits in? so I've got one on the bigger part of that piece but the little chimney thing that slides in and out of it...is there really supposed to be a small o-ring INSIDE of that chimney hole? if so I'm missing it x.x
 

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when you return to the ADKS you must come visit! I've got quite the nice digs to check out ;)

am I seeing right in the manual that I'm missing an o-ring, in the top cap part the mouth piece fits in? so I've got one on the bigger part of that piece but the little chimney thing that slides in and out of it...is there really supposed to be a small o-ring INSIDE of that chimney hole? if so I'm missing it x.x

If I ever get to I will <3 I own the ehPro versions and the Hcigar versions and they all have that O-ring. You might have just found your problem. In the ehPro version the O-ring is sandwiched between metal in the top cap, in the Hcigar it's just there.
 
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