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I think this is really a question of etiquette, and probably has a lot to do with the fact that I live in California. Just seems absurd that we would walk around the mall or go to the movie theater, or wherever and think we we have the right to vape as we please because it isn't a cigarette. Safer than smoking? yep it would seem so. Stealth hit? Sure i understand the urge, but that doesn't mean it is okay. If i get caught doing these things I accept the consequences with a sheepish grin and move on.
As a community we will be judged by the actions of our most defiant members. I simply chose to make sure my actions now won't infringe upon the rights I have down the road.
As a community we will be judged by the actions of our most defiant members. I simply chose to make sure my actions now won't infringe upon the rights I have down the road.
If i ever have an urge i just go to a restoom. If someone says something i reply at least it doesnt smell like poop. lol
So basically what you're saying is that vaping indoors (where clouds can linger and cannot dissipate or escape quickly) is the same as vaping outdoors. By this so-called logic, you've completely disregarded basic logic as well as common courtesy.
I have never been asked to leave anywhere here in Myrtle Beach SC for vaping. I have even vaped in food lion and nothing said, but I also don't go for the clouds while inside a business.
My takeaway from that is not to vape peanut flavored juice and certainly not juices that resemble cologne. My wife sniff tests my juices. I try to stay with the juices that she says don't have a particular odor.
I vape all the time in public places. I haven't in 4 1/2 years had anyone to come up and tell me I can't. If they don't notice it, then it isn't a problem. It's just been in the last year that people have recounted situations where they were told to stop.
Maybe it's the new cloud blowing generation that's getting caught. Turn down the wattage, blow it down your shirt, and no one will notice.
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or just take a deep breath after inhaling and hold it in for a bit. i vape here at work all the time. im told there was another guy who did... it hasn't ever been told if its officially ok, or not ok... i just know that if im chucking big clouds and creating attention.. it probably wouldnt be ok. so i hit my .5 ohm cloud chuckin setup and hold it in.. and at the most.. tiny wisps of vapor come out... everyone (including the office manager) has seen this and no one has even raised an eye brow.
just be responsible about things.. and maybe we wont lose our priveleges...
With outdoors comes wind, and with wind comes non-lingering clouds that can blow into people's faces that were nowhere near you when you exhaled. Hence, out of your control, but still within your decision making process, knowing that wind is a factor when you exhale. Thus inconsiderate, I'm sure, to some people's standards.
Indoors, in say a megastore, I could exhale whatever kind of a cloud my cigalike produces, stand there and admire my work for the 11 seconds that it hangs around. Spend 2 more minutes not finding the product I came to aisle 38, row 11 for. Decide to go find a clerk, and 5 minutes later find one, Bring them back to that same location, and while we are looking together ask them, "do you smell anything funny?" You don't? Me either.
It's all a matter of being discrete and considering the effect on others. The medical testing shows that our ecig vapor exhale is actually better than the air we breathe when we walk outside at the mall (or stand inside). There's 400 cars spewing exhaust fumes out in the parking lot and a number of fried food places putting vegetable oil vapors into the air, not to mention those dang popcorn cooking fumes. My ecig isn't going to introduce anything close to the respiratory irritation that those sources create.
I see this going both ways for some time yet... vaping is still disturbing to many people that are not familiar with it like we are: To them, it gives the illusion of smoking (but we know it's just an illusion).
Recently I had to have minor surgery. The hospital has a strict no smoking policy which they even extend to people sitting in a car in the parking lot. Yet, when the Doctor (on-duty) and Nurse saw my e-cig sitting next to me (which I certainly wasn't vaping with them around) they pointed to it and said "You can use that in here, no worries" (I was pleasantly shocked). I'm sure the Hospital administration will eventually come up with an uninformed and ill-conceived policy like most places and that certainly will be a no vaping allowed one. The world spent decades demonizing smoking and in so doing demonized vaping which hadn't even been invented yet.
I recently saw my Doctor and he asked how I was doing giving up smoking I told him I had quit completely and pointed to the e-cig in my pocket and he said "Oh yeah, some kind of nicotine vaporizer" with a look of complete disapproval. But a year or so ago he couldn't reach for his prescription pad quick enough to write a prescription for Champix which gave me the worst nightmares and depression I've ever had (so I had to discontinue it) and from what I've read has been linked to everything from shooting rampages to suicides.
A small snippet (as food for thought): Health Canada tight-lipped on Champix suicides. A Star investigation has found smoking-cessation drug Champix is among the leading suspected causes of reported suicides linked to prescription drugs and Health Canada wont say whether it has investigated cases like 22-year-old Heidis. Pfizer Canada, the drugs manufacturer, says its benefits outweigh the risks.
Recently I had to have minor surgery. The hospital has a strict no smoking policy which they even extend to people sitting in a car in the parking lot. Yet, when the Doctor (on-duty) and Nurse saw my e-cig sitting next to me (which I certainly wasn't vaping with them around) they pointed to it and said "You can use that in here, no worries" (I was pleasantly shocked). I'm sure the Hospital administration will eventually come up with an uninformed and ill-conceived policy like most places and that certainly will be a no vaping allowed one. The world spent decades demonizing smoking and in so doing demonized vaping which hadn't even been invented yet.
I recently saw my Doctor and he asked how I was doing giving up smoking I told him I had quit completely and pointed to the e-cig in my pocket and he said "Oh yeah, some kind of nicotine vaporizer" with a look of complete disapproval. But a year or so ago he couldn't reach for his prescription pad quick enough to write a prescription for Champix which gave me the worst nightmares and depression I've ever had (so I had to discontinue it) and from what I've read has been linked to everything from shooting rampages to suicides.
A small snippet (as food for thought): Health Canada tight-lipped on Champix suicides. A Star investigation has found smoking-cessation drug Champix is among the leading suspected causes of reported suicides linked to prescription drugs and Health Canada wont say whether it has investigated cases like 22-year-old Heidis. Pfizer Canada, the drugs manufacturer, says its benefits outweigh the risks.
The difficulty is that a few people feel compelled to take what is essentially a privilege and make an 'in-your-face' statement to the general public with it. This is how privileges are lost, folks.
New to the forum and started vaping about a year ago. I personally think that banning indoor vaping in public places is stupid, but with that said, when you have someone in a place and the blow a cloud with a sub ohm mod it is extremely rude and uncool. it draws negative attention that really isn't needed to the rest of us discreet vapers. It is always one bad apple that will ruin it for the bunch.
Oh please, I'm not here to talk about the law of physics but I think you realize there's a lesser chance of someone breathing your vape outdoors versus in an enclosed area indoors in a mall.
Aisle 38 row 11...are you sure about that? On a serious note, I personally wouldn't blow clouds indoors in a retail/mall environment "to admire my work for 11 seconds" because I have respect for those around me.
Based on your comments earlier:
It seems you may be in that group categorized as being overly defiant whose actions could ultimately ruin it all for everyone else. Me personally I choose a different stance which differs from yours - but of course it is your prerogative to act in that manner.
I would say it depends on the circumstances. Wind or no wind, if I'm cramped outside with people, then vaping there is similar to vaping in a indoor space that is moderately busy and say the size of typical McDonald's restaurant. And way more of an issue to vape in that outdoor situation then indoors in hospital or megastore. But if comparing say outdoor park to vaping in an elevator, then I would agree that there is lesser chance of someone breathing your vape outdoors (in that situation) versus an enclosed area indoors, like an elevator.
As do I.
Yes, I choose civil disobedience on this issue because I am very convinced that in a mall situation that I could, rather easily get away with it. I believe I could do just what I said in earlier post you quoted, and vape in a mall by playing a game with mall security where I try to get very close to them, and them not notice, all while I am not once exhaling vapor near any other patron in that mall. I'd be glad to be videotaped while I did this, precisely to prove the point.
I tend to reserve my vaping for the times when there's not a crowd around. In stores I'll purposely walk toward or through a dead area on my way to where I want to be rather than the more crowded departments. I vape while walking through that part of the store. In restaurants, I'll pick or ask for a certain table in the corner away from the concentration of diners.
ETA: I'm watching the news and there's a report on the preferences of millennials. One of the topics is "Electronic cigarettes in public". 60% are against bans on public vaping. They also oppose bans on soda and plastic bags. These people are the future of US government policy. They will push rule creation and elimination.
ETA: I'm watching the news and there's a report on the preferences of millennials. One of the topics is "Electronic cigarettes in public". 60% are against bans on public vaping. They also oppose bans on soda and plastic bags. These people are the future of US government policy. They will push rule creation and elimination.
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Why, then, do the majority of the Millennials subscribe to and vote for a certain political ideology which favors a nanny state?
I don't consider the open areas of a mall an enclosed space. As long as you're not blowing huge clouds while actually standing still next to a family, there's no way it's a danger to anyone's kids. I always thought it was a crock of .... that they even banned smoking in the big open spaces of malls.
best regards, larry mac
best regards, larry mac
I am just starting to vape and i already know i will quit smoking. this is so much better but i will be polite in public and hope another freedom is not taken from us.
Same restrictions here in TX. I think it's more for the managers convenience since many of them are not opposed but don't have time to deal with the uneducated patrons about the difference between smoking and vaping.
Thanks for that addition.
So was that before or after you " I asked him why, since I have done this before".
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