killed my first atty with the Prodigy...

[vaporize me]

Man, I have the worse luck with attys.

Being an x-401 atty user and never having one last more than 2 weeks, I thought that switching to an 801 or 901 would give me better luck. Damn, this one only lasted a day!

Killed my first 801 while dripping. The thing actually popped during mid-toke. Startled the crap out of me, lol. After it went cold, I blew on the battery side and realized that I totally flooded it out. This is going to take a little getting used to.

Popped on the 901 adapter, dripped a few times and went to the cart..just in case I would flood it out again. The 901 is great but I do prefer the 801, just my opinion.

I love the Prodigy and it is my main vaping device. Although, I do go to my 401 passthrough for a mellower experience at times. I hope I have better luck in the future with these Chinese made attys.

Steve, when are the U.S. attys going to be available? I hope real soon!

 

[LastStar]

I logged on for just this reason. I've been using my Prodigy since Thursday...and have gone through two atomizers (801). I was curious to see if anyone else was having an issue. Is it possible I'm holding the button down too long? One-two seconds...perhaps...and I can hear it sizzling. Trying not to flood it as well...but must keep dripping to prevent scorching taste. Will have to pay closer attention to what I'm doing... Any tips appreciated.

 

[breakfastchef]

Congratulations, folks. Welcome to the world of high-voltage vaping. It is really weird to have your atomizer pop in mid-draw.

Once you adopt several 'best practices', you will likely have fewer problems. This is a list I developed when I sent a DIY 801 Magnum mod out as a demo for fourm members interested in trying one out. Use this list as a conservative starting point.

• If using a cartridge, keep it moist by topping it off after every 4-6 draws of vapor.

• If you drip, put no more than three drops on the atomizer bridge after every 4-6 draws of vapor.

• Do not take more than 6 draws in a minute. The atomizer may get very hot.

• Let a hot atomizer cool down for a minute BEFORE dripping or taking another draw.

• It is a good idea to vape on another device and intermittently use the Prodigy for a few hits, then go back to the other device. This gives the atomizer a chance to cool down.

• This device may damage or burn out an atomizer if it is allowed to get too hot, too often or if you run the atomizer too dry. Dripping onto a hot atomizer is a sure way to burn it up. (Don’t ask how I learned this three times.)

• This device may make you addicted to high voltage vaping!!

 

[vaporize me]

Thanks Breakfastchef...I will use your tips and hope for the best.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Great Tips Breakfast ...

I am on #2 801 atomizer since we started the Prodigy a couple months back. No doubt, the extra voltage is something to get used to and you have to treat it differently than standard.

ALWAYS keep liquid in. If you notice the atomizer getting hott, set it down for a minute or two, add a couple drops, and continue your vaping experience.

Like I said, no doubt you will trash a couple in the learning faze, its part of the experience. Just take the necessary precautions, and you should be fine.

 

[vaporize me]

Hi Steve,

But we still need that U.S. made atty that will last for a year or more, lol.

 

[Yirabeth]

Will this issue be something you address as you come up with your own atomizers, or is it something that just cannot be fixed? (I don't even HAVE a Prodigy yet, but I'm milimeters away from pressing the order button! -- after I fix my car. lol)

~Yira

 

[Zofryer]

Welcome to the world of high-voltage vaping.
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• If using a cartridge, keep it moist by topping it off after every 4-6 draws of vapor.

• If you drip, put no more than three drops on the atomizer bridge after every 4-6 draws of vapor.

• Do not take more than 6 draws in a minute. The atomizer may get very hot.

• Let a hot atomizer cool down for a minute BEFORE dripping or taking another draw.

• It is a good idea to vape on another device and intermittently use the Prodigy for a few hits, then go back to the other device. This gives the atomizer a chance to cool down.

• This device may damage or burn out an atomizer if it is allowed to get too hot, too often or if you run the atomizer too dry. Dripping onto a hot atomizer is a sure way to burn it up. (Don’t ask how I learned this three times.)

• This device may make you addicted to high voltage vaping!!

And this is the post where I decided I'm sticking with boring 3.7 volts. High voltage vaping looks to be a pain in the .... Not say, owning an alfa romeo level, but more like dating a married person level.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Hi Steve,

But we still need that U.S. made atty that will last for a year or more, lol.

Depends on if the market will allow it ... At this point, I don't see a USA made atty, priced under $50/usd ... made to last a year. A USA made atty IS possible ... However, pumping out 2 or perhaps 3 per hour won't get the job done.

Will this issue be something you address as you come up with your own atomizers, or is it something that just cannot be fixed? (I don't even HAVE a Prodigy yet, but I'm milimeters away from pressing the order button! -- after I fix my car. lol)

~Yira

Yira ... I have mentioned this a few times, perhaps outside these boards. We will NOT be able to produce our own atomizer reasonably cheap ... Assembly alone it would take many many man hours, not to mention, I don't have the capabilities of having an assembly line of 50 people (like China) to sit and do nothin but make these bad boys.

And this is the post where I decided I'm sticking with boring 3.7 volts. High voltage vaping looks to be a pain in the .... Not say, owning an alfa romeo level, but more like dating a married person level.

That's like saying you want to stay in kindergarten and not make the leap to first grade LOL

Its a learning experience ... Just like noobies trashing atomizers on standard 3.7v and lower batteries when they first start esmoking ...

 

[Zofryer]

That's like saying you want to stay in kindergarten and not make the leap to first grade LOL

I will make you a pretty picture out of macaronis and glue after naptime.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I will make you a pretty picture out of macaronis and glue after naptime.

YESSSS !!!! Can't Wait !!! lol

 

[Yirabeth]

Okay, that makes reasonable sense

One question though..if I follow all the OTHER steps to protecting an atomizer, but don't use a second setup to give it a break..should I have reasonable success? (Ie, one month per atomizer seems to be the sweet spot)The whole idea, for me, is to get rid of my current setup, because it's ANNOYING that batteries are dying all the time and don't last very long, or that I'm stuck on a tether that tangles and gets wrapped around school books and overall just irritates me beyond belief! I'd prefer to (say for instance) grab my prodigy, a spare set of batteries, and head out the door and come home later in the day without having to switch setups back and forth...

I think I also read somewhere (but darned if I can find it now...) about setting the prodigy up for 3.7v as opposed to 5v -- would that fix the problem overall, if one were willing to have a lesser vaping experience for the sake of a longer one per atomizer?

Actually, after having just looked at my Kensington battery pack..aren't I already dealing with a 5v vaping experience? (Using a 901 atty and PT)It says output: 5v 1.50A max on the back. Or am I comparing apples to oranges...hehe

I really badly need a better vaping experience, and so far the Prodigy seems to fit what I need perfectly -- but I'm afraid of killing atomizers left and right Thanks for any advice on this...

~Yira

 

[Zofryer]

YESSSS !!!! Can't Wait !!! lol

To be clear, I'm not discouraging. Just boring. If I do go high-volt, I'd get your product based upon the research I've done, and the opinions of more than a handful of high-volt junkies on here.

 

[Momof3]

Actually, after having just looked at my Kensington battery pack..aren't I already dealing with a 5v vaping experience? (Using a 901 atty and PT)It says output: 5v 1.50A max on the back. Or am I comparing apples to oranges...hehe

~Yira

That's what I'm wondering too. Won't the Prodigy be just like a cordless PT experience. If I'm already vaping on a PT no problem and not killing attys left and right, I would think the same would hold true for the Prodigy. Maybe the buildup issue? Aren't there people who say using 5V on new attys keep the coil cleaner, but taking an older gunked up one to 5V snaps them?

 

[Yirabeth]

Aren't there people who say using 5V on new attys keep the coil cleaner, but taking an older gunked up one to 5V snaps them?

If this is the case, I really need to get some coffee pot cleaner and run my attys through that before using them on a Prodigy I hope to order in the next week..hehe

Still waiting to hear from the pros on the difference between a battery pack, and the Prodigy And whether its okay to use the Prodigy full time if I observe all the other precautions, if its not the same as the battery pack. (I already tend to touch the atomizer to my lip to judge temperature and put it down if it seems a bit TOO hot to me...this is usually while driving, I'm not completely weird, only partially so!)

~Yira

 

[CaSHMeRe]

using the Prodigy will be much like using a PT, BUT, not exact ...

When using the Prodigy, you are getting a TRUE 5v under load...

When using a PT, you are getting 4.3 - 4.7v under load ... Also, not many people have TRUE PT's ... The ones with inline batteries from china, etc... are NOT 5v PT's ...

 

[Yirabeth]

I bought my PT from LuckySevens4U here at the forums, out of the swap section..is this a true passthrough? LOL How do you tell the difference? I can provide a picture if needed.

In any case, if you can vape for a month or two on one atomizer I suppose I can, once I figure out the right methods...although I'm using 901's not the 801. (Which ARE from China...)

So, am I correct in thinking, if I treat it well, test that it's not getting too hot, and follow the other directions listed, I should be okay?

~Yira

 

[breakfastchef]

Actually, after having just looked at my Kensington battery pack..aren't I already dealing with a 5v vaping experience? (Using a 901 atty and PT)It says output: 5v 1.50A max on the back. Or am I comparing apples to oranges...hehe

Yira: Your Kensington PPP does put out 5v and up to 1.5A, so this would be similar to the power of a Prodigy. But, if you have a PT with an in-line battery, as Cash points out above, your atomizer is being powered from the battery (3.7-4.2v), not by the power pack. If you have a PT without an in-line battery, but it does have an automatic cut-off time programmed into the microprocessor inside the PT, then you are vaping at the full 5 volts, but only as long as you can draw until the device cuts off.

Again, as Cash points out, if you really had a straight passthrough with a manual button and attached it to a Kensignton PPP, you would be getting very close to the Prodigy experience, in my estimation. What the Prodigy offers is an elegant, attractive, mobile solution that produces enhanced vapor and throat hit via higher voltage and manual button while also providing the user longer runtime with higher capacity batteries. No wires needed; you are holding the battery pack.

 

[rsngfrce]

The first PureSmoker 801 atomizer I connected to my Podigy lasted 1 second then died. It's a good thing I bought a spare. I have contacted support.

 

[Yirabeth]

. What the Prodigy offers is an elegant, attractive, mobile solution that produces enhanced vapor and throat hit via higher voltage and manual button while also providing the user longer runtime with higher capacity batteries. No wires needed; you are holding the battery pack.

Oh I totally understand that fact, and that's why I'm seriously considering the Prodigy I do want to know how to tell what sort of passthrough I'm currently using though, so I know what to expect, and how to treat it --- Knowing being half the battle Any input on what I should look for on my current passthrough to identify it as a true passthrough, or just an inline battery? Does it look different, or are there numbers on the end I should be looking for, etc? Pictures available if needed!

Thanks!

~Yira