killed my first atty with the Prodigy...

[rsngfrce]

I'm assuming, you didn't test it UNDER LOAD 2 very different things!!!

Well, not with the atomizer attached if that is what you mean. However I seem to be able to vape fine with an 18650 battery (though obviously less hot) which I just tried for the first time... which I didn't think would be possible with the resistor. I'm not really sure this bothers me IF the resistor is not working, because IF I am getting non-resistor Prodigy performance, the vapor from the 2 RCR123A's didn't seem to hot or harsh to me. Though, as I say, I can't be certain I am not misreading something...

 

[Paradiso]

High voltage vaping looks to be a pain in the .... Not say, owning an alfa romeo level

Hey... that'sa my girls you talk about:

The red one's not a pain in the ... at all, the white one, well....

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Well, not with the atomizer attached if that is what you mean. However I seem to be able to vape fine with an 18650 battery (though obviously less hot) which I just tried for the first time... which I didn't think would be possible with the resistor. I'm not really sure this bothers me IF the resistor is not working, because IF I am getting non-resistor Prodigy performance, the vapor from the 2 RCR123A's didn't seem to hot or harsh to me. Though, as I say, I can't be certain I am not misreading something...

The resistor wouldn't shut down at a certain voltage, therefore, the types of batteries used (RCR or 18650's) are negligible at this point. I still think the issue is the contact post The first atomizer popped due to it simply being faulty, the other two seem to have contact issues, stemming from the upper contact post not contacting adapter.

 

[rsngfrce]

I thought I saw that you had tested the resistor and saw *resistance* spread across at .9v was it? If so, its functioning, as there is no real way to test a load considering everything is concealed. Thus ... I feel its the adapter that needs to be tapped down a bit

Yes, .9 was the reading I got from the resistor, though my limited understanding is that once a resistor is attached to something, you can't get a true reading from it.

Is there any possibility that the resistor could be getting bypassed in the switch somehow? I must note that a LITTLE knowledge is DANGEROUS sometimes, and my LITTLE knowledge of what I am testing my be well be misleading me...

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Yes, .9 was the reading I got from the resistor, though my limited understanding is that once a resistor is attached to something, you can't get a true reading from it.

Is there any possibility that the resistor could be getting bypassed in the switch somehow? I must note that a LITTLE knowledge is DANGEROUS sometimes, and my LITTLE knowledge of what I am testing my be well be misleading me...

Hehe ... The only true way to test how a resistor will work is when its under load, and you simply aren't putting power through it on an uncompleted circuit. My still *limited* knowledge is that when a resistor pops, NO current will be able to pass through it. There is no way for the resistor to be bypassed without pulling the actual resistor.

 

[rsngfrce]

The resistor wouldn't shut down at a certain voltage, therefore, the types of batteries used (RCR or 18650's) are negligible at this point.

Well, if I understand what you are saying, the resistor will reduce the voltage of either battery... but I thought that you had said elsewhere that with the resistor the performance of the 18650 would be unacceptable... though now that I try it more, it does seem rather weak, I guess I just didn't expect it to work at all or something.

I still think the issue is the contact post The first atomizer popped due to it simply being faulty, the other two seem to have contact issues, stemming from the upper contact post not contacting adapter.

There are two different issues here and I don't mean to combine them. I may be wrong about the resistor working or not working, but I don't think that has anything to do with atomizer being erratic. I expect you are correct about the adapter contact post and will try that.

 

[wegster]

^^ True

Resistors do not short (lower/no resistance), they open when they 'pop.' (infinite resistance.) I'm assuming the resistor is in *series* and is just there to limit voltage?

If it's in parallel, different story somewhat..as each circuit 'branch' is independent from the power supply (basically).

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Well, if I understand what you are saying, the resistor will reduce the voltage of either battery... but I thought that you had said elsewhere that with the resistor the performance of the 18650 would be unacceptable... though now that I try it more, it does seem rather weak, I guess I just didn't expect it to work at all or something.

There are two different issues here and I don't mean to combine them. I may be wrong about the resistor working or not working, but I don't think that has anything to do with atomizer being erratic. I expect you are correct about the adapter contact post and will try that.

Ok ... Now I'm lost ... I thought the issue was popping atomizers ... Even at 6v+ the atomizer would still work each and every time until they die. If there is a contact issue, it will be sporatic if its just *slightly* touching which I think is the issue here. The resistor is working, or the unit wouldn't work period As you see below, this is also called "Infinite Resistence" and when connected in series, like the Prodigy is, "Infiniate Resistence" means an open circuit, thus current will NOT flow

^^ True

Resistors do not short (lower/no resistance), they open when they 'pop.' (infinite resistance.) I'm assuming the resistor is in *series* and is just there to limit voltage?

If it's in parallel, different story somewhat..as each circuit 'branch' is independent from the power supply (basically).

Gracias Wegster ... The resistors are in fact inline, and are simply there to limit voltage

 

[rsngfrce]

Contact looks to be hit or miss and may be sitting a little *too* high up. What I would likely do, screw on the adapter as best you can, then unloosen by about 1/2 - 1 full turn. Take a screw driver and hammer (with atomizer off) and tap the contact post down until it won't go down any further. Tighten up, and you should be good to go.

I still think the issue is the contact post The first atomizer popped due to it simply being faulty, the other two seem to have contact issues, stemming from the upper contact post not contacting adapter.

The contact post being the center post, inside the black ring, inside the thread? Lowering that seems counter-intuitive, so I want to make sure I understand what you are telling me. It currently sits flush or VERY slightly higher than the thread. Thanks for all your help!

 

[CaSHMeRe]

The contact post being the center post, inside the black ring, inside the thread? Lowering that seems counter-intuitive, so I want to make sure I understand what you are telling me. It currently sits flush or VERY slightly higher than the thread. Thanks for all your help!

Yes, that's the one .... Actually screw the adapter on the Prodigy all the way, then back off it about 1/2 - 1 whole thread, and tap the center post ... Sitting flush or even just under flush and you should still be fine Once you do this, screw adapter back down as best you can ... you will notice its then harder to screw adapter on fully, overtime, the components pressed in (the brass fitting) will seat and stay exactly where you need them... They are infact pressed, but overtime, they will move ever so slightly until you can fully screw on the adapter Hope that makes sense

 

[rsngfrce]

Ok ... Now I'm lost ... I thought the issue was popping atomizers ... Even at 6v+ the atomizer would still work each and every time until they die. If there is a contact issue, it will be sporatic if its just *slightly* touching which I think is the issue here. The resistor is working, or the unit wouldn't work period

OH NO 8-o! Now I am lost that you are lost! I thought that post would clear things up! Because my atomizers SEEMED to be dying (and now I realize were not, other that the first one), I tested the voltage output of the Prodigy adapter (very possibly incorrectly) and it appeared to me that the resistor was not reducing the voltage. I thought possibly the resistor might be bypassed somehow within the switch?

Once I discovered that the atomizers were not dead, obviously whether the resistor is working or not was having no effect on whether the atomizers were working or not and that seems to be an adapter contact issue as you are stating.

The erratic atomizer contact issue led me to the unrelated question of whether the resistor was working. Does that clear things up?

 

[CaSHMeRe]

awwww... I gotcha ... LOL

This is what happens on Sunday nights

Yeah ... The contact issue should solve all your "woes" RSN, minus the initial atomizer pop Give it a shot ... Its really not hard, and we try to prepare the adapters as best we can here first (to seat over time that is) but sometimes we aren't always successful, so we certainly appreciate users being able to help troubleshoot, so there is really no down time

Give it a shot RSN and Let me know!!!!

 

[rsngfrce]

Hmmm... attempted to following your instructions... center post did not seem to lower. Attached atomizer, could not draw through it at all (and would not screw on very far). Took adapater off, gave a couple taps on the back side, working again. Not really sure I adjusted the height of the "center post" at all, more the height of the complete brass fitting? However, atomizer seems to function OK at varying levels of tightness, so maybe I fixed something?

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Hmmm... attempted to following your instructions... center post did not seem to lower. Attached atomizer, could not draw through it at all (and would not screw on very far). Took adapater off, gave a couple taps on the back side, working again. Not really sure I adjusted the height of the "center post" at all, more the height of the complete brass fitting? However, atomizer seems to function OK at varying levels of tightness, so maybe I fixed something?

LOL ... That made my night ... A Random Fix ... We can call this fix ... the "RSN Mysterious Fix"

You may have adjusted the entire thing (because they are quite tight) If you check the "Prodigy Troubleshooting Guide" at the top of our subforum, found here: Puresmoker - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat On the bottom of the first page, I go in to detail on how to only go about moving the center post without the exterior brass fitting to move as well

HOWEVER ... Seeing as you fixed the issue, I would like NOT troubleshoot any further ... If the issue pops up again, we can adjust only the center post and work from there

 

[vaporize me]

Sounds like a similar problem that I had with my 901 adapter not quite making contact. A couple of taps with a socket extension and a hammer did the trick as per Steve's instructions.

I think that if anybody would run into a similar situation that they should check the contact points first. It is an easy remedy and I'm sure that it would save Steve a lot of headaches.

 

[rsngfrce]

LOL ... That made my night ... A Random Fix ... We can call this fix ... the "RSN Mysterious Fix"

You may have adjusted the entire thing (because they are quite tight) If you check the "Prodigy Troubleshooting Guide" at the top of our subforum, found here: Puresmoker - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat On the bottom of the first page, I go in to detail on how to only go about moving the center post without the exterior brass fitting to move as well

HOWEVER ... Seeing as you fixed the issue, I would like NOT troubleshoot any further ... If the issue pops up again, we can adjust only the center post and work from there

I was refering to that thread, which confused me because they differed from your instructions here, but hey, it seems to have worked!

I obviously need to remember one of my own rules , atomizers are OFTEN not dead when you think they are dead. My wife used to often flood her 401 atomizers and be convinced they were dead, and then I would blow them out and they would be working again. This is a nice reason to have a multimeter... infinity = dead.

Be SURE your atomizer is dead before you write it off!

 

[rsngfrce]

Sounds like a similar problem that I had with my 901 adapter not quite making contact. A couple of taps with a socket extension and a hammer did the trick as per Steve's instructions.

I think that if anybody would run into a similar situation that they should check the contact points first. It is an easy remedy and I'm sure that it would save Steve a lot of headaches.

Hopefully others can now learn from our struggles!

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Sounds like a similar problem that I had with my 901 adapter not quite making contact. A couple of taps with a socket extension and a hammer did the trick as per Steve's instructions.

I think that if anybody would run into a similar situation that they should check the contact points first. It is an easy remedy and I'm sure that it would save Steve a lot of headaches.

I don't mind walking through people when it comes to troubleshooting Prodigy's ... Its much easier consider we built it and not an outside source which I have zero idea what they did to it (ie: China Batteries with LED's, PT's, etc...)

We do check the contact here, but thats not to say someone didn't tighten too far form the get go and pushed the contact post up ... So, we try and get these things fixed here before they go out, but, you never can tell

I was refering to that thread, which confused me because they differed from your instructions here, but hey, it seems to have worked!

I obviously need to remember one of my own rules , atomizers are OFTEN not dead when you think they are dead. My wife used to often flood her 401 atomizers and be convinced they were dead, and then I would blow them out and they would be working again. This is a nice reason to have a multimeter... infinity = dead.

Be SURE your atomizer is dead before you write it off!

LOL ... Yup A multi needs to be in everyone's tool box ... Couldn't imagine living without one now Just remember, what i said a couple pages back about troubleshooting .... This solves soooo many issues its crazy ...

There are several key things to remember:
1) When liquid starts to pool, you need to make sure to dry it off and clean it out. When liquid builds up, its takes MORE power, to get the same hit, thus eventually heating up the atomizer even more.
2) I blow out my atomizers DAILY. DAILY (normally mid day or so) I blow out the atomizer and get all that liquid out. Again, excess liquid build up = more power to get the same vapor/throat hit ... = hotter the atomizer. When I blow out the atomizer at this time, I also dry off both fittings, and square off a piece of paper towel to soak up all the excess liquid.