Kr 808 vs 510

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BradSmith

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OK here goes. I am still a noob so bear with me. I love my 510 but I can already tell it's not going to be for everyone. I was a roll your own (RYO) guy so I don't mind a little work and in fact the 510 is much less work than what I was doing.

My question is, what about people who don't like to fiddle around with their equipment?:rolleyes:

I'm asking because I have been asked to suggest a PV for a few people and I know, or at least think I do, that the 510 isn't going to work for a couple of them. They are not the hands on kind of people. Money isn't that big of a concern (unlike me) but if it's too big of a pain in the rear end I'm afraid they won't stick with it.

Is the DR 808 the way to go? Is it really easier to maintain than the 510? Is there anything else that would be better?
 

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I've been very happy with my KR8 and its ease of use. It has great battery life compared to most other kits, particularly the XL 380mAh batteries. And using this method, refilling the cartomizers couldn't be easier:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/67012-refill-cartomizers-quick-easy-video.html

I don't have a 510, but what I have gleaned from a lot of reading here is that it is a fine atomizer. But many folks seem to need to mod the carts or find alternatives for the batteries in short order. I think that out of the box, a KR8 offers a more no-fuss vaping experience.
 

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I don't mean to knock the 510, and may even buy an adapter to try one sometime. But I can't imagine my wife wanting to deal with one. With the KR8, all she has to do is charge her batteries and screw on a cartomizer (I'm Vice-President In Charge of Washing and Refilling Cartomizers). I do have some 901 atty's that I use for dripping, and they are a nice vape, but are so leaky that I can't imagine using one as an everyday device.
 

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I hate fiddling with things, i just want it to work! I also dont like manual battery because i often put my kr8 in my purse or even in my pant pocket.

I dont believe that the 510 is cheaper at all as you have to buy lots more parts. I saw where someone put a list of what to buy for a 510 the other day in new members section and it added up to $100. You can buy a complete 2 battery kr8 kit for $50. When scanning the forums, the majority of issues are with 510's but there are only a few problems here and there with kr8's. (is this because more people own 510's?)

Speaking about juice, well I love flavor! The kr8 gives tons of quality flavor and the cartomizers have never gunked up on me but i have heard people say that the 510 doesnt produce as much flavor. I see people post all the time that you have to be careful with juice in the 510's because the color/thickness can gunk it up. I have never had an issue in a cartomizer even with my 100% vg juice.

I also see that people say that kr8's do not produce much vapor. Perhaps they dont make as much vapor as a 510, however I have personally found that all four of my kr8's produce just as much vapor as I see in the videos of people using 510's. I believe this has more to do with the juice than the kr8 but people want to blame the kr8 for it. The prefilled cartomizers also produce much less vapor. If vapor is your thing, then use a good quality juice with at least 10% vg. I was at my best friends over the weekend and my kr8 had 3 times more vapor than her real cigarette had.

I also see people incorrectly state on a regular basis that kr8 batteries are activated by loud noises, dropping it, etc. However, I have four kr8 batteries from four different vendors and they work ONLY when I take a drag off of them. It seems to me that those are all old issues.

So for me, I did not chose a 510 simply because I didnt want to deal with juice in my mouth, having to store it a certain way in my pocket, attys that taste burnt, have gunk in them or primer, fluval, ptb, constant dripping or refilling. Just give me my kr8 that delivers consistent vapor and flavor for hours at a time by just screwing on a cartomizer.

p.s. I am by no means putting down a 510 as it is a quality product. I am just stating my personal reasons and why I chose the kr8 over the 510.
 

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I dont believe that the 510 is cheaper at all as you have to buy lots more parts. I saw where someone put a list of what to buy for a 510 the other day in new members section and it added up to $100. You can buy a complete 2 battery kr8 kit for $50.

This is utterly ridiculous. Nobody needs to spend 100$ to try a 510. Why is it that in so many threads KR8 fans turn up and make such utterly ridiculous statements? Do you need lies to sell your favourite toy? Truth doesn't cut it?
That list you talk about most likely included PT and PCC and quite some backup parts. With those, a KR8 is also not cheaper. A starter kit for a 510 is about 35$ in the US, and that contains all you need; although you probably should buy some liquid, too, when you start out. Just as you would make sure you have enough cartomizers.

And just in case that was coming up: Yes, atties for 510s are more expensive than cartomizers. With cartomizers, though, you are lucky if you can refill them a dozen times. A 510 atty lasts longer than that. Considerably longer. Which does not make cartos less expensive than 510s.

When scanning the forums, the majority of issues are with 510's but there are only a few problems here and there with kr8's. (is this because more people own 510's?)

It may have something to do with how some people attack everybody who dares having a problem with their favourite toy.

Speaking about juice, well I love flavor! The kr8 gives tons of quality flavor and the cartomizers have never gunked up on me but i have heard people say that the 510 doesnt produce as much flavor. I see people post all the time that you have to be careful with juice in the 510's because the color/thickness can gunk it up. I have never had an issue in a cartomizer even with my 100% vg juice.

Yes, well, for that first dozen times you refill, which is the such a high number of refills for a carto, a 510 does not have problems, either. And I really don't think that if you try to refill a carto with coloured or gunky juice, the cartos swallow that without any complaint.

So for me, I did not chose a 510 simply because I didnt want to deal with juice in my mouth, having to store it a certain way in my pocket, attys that taste burnt, have gunk in them or primer, fluval, ptb, constant dripping or refilling. Just give me my kr8 that delivers consistent vapor and flavor for hours at a time by just screwing on a cartomizer.
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Funny. I've had juice in my mouth with my KR8 just as much or little as with my 510 (actually condensed water with a hint of juice - doesn't taste good, though, either). I don't have to store my 510s in a particular way, either, I have not yet had gunk in my atties, it takes me less than a minute to make a card mod that works fine for a week, refilling my 510 is easier than refilling a KR8, and I don't get burned plastic to inhale.
 

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The d510 seems to be a great ecig around the house but is high maintenance when compared to the kr8. Both the cartridges and the batts are short lived. The kr8 doesn't have the output of the d510 but is a great ecig for on the go and has very few issues. A few have complained about burning cartos but my experience is that you really have to go to foolish lengths to do so. It is really too bad that at this time there is no 1 ecig with the better attributes of both.
 
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The kr808 is a great unit for beginers.Its easy to use and most people can taste when the cart is done and its time to change it.

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I've only been vaping for 2 weeks and really like my 2 piece. I did get a set of carts that don't perform very well, but other than that, I doubt I'll ever try anything different. As soon as I can't taste anything pleasant, I refill, which takes about a minute and lasts most of the day.

I really don't see how anyone can get so defensive about a product like this, unless they are the inventor or they sell them. :confused: To me, it's just plan silly.
 

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There is no right or wrong answer to this. I recommend either model to new users, depending on their priorities.

For simplicity (no muss, no fuss), intense flavor, good throat hit, and more puffs per charge (280 mAh), the Kr8 gets the nod.

For vapor, smooth flavor, and the reliability and control of a good manual switch button, the award goes to the 510.

The Kr8 was my first e-cig model. I still use the batteries (with adapter), but I never liked the cartomizer taste. My own main vape is the penstyle, but (because of its length), it wouldn't be the first model I would recommend to a newbie. I don't get throat hit from the 510, but I do love that vapor (and I like that flavor smoothness); it's my in between nic hit vape.
 
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