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You're very welcome. ;)

As for the blog post that wasn't (sigh...) about the different adapters/cartos I asked the question in the main forum, and sent question to my 2 best 'techie' buddies. Figure I'll give em about half an our, and if noone has an answer, I'll import all the photos/data here for you guys. Prob will be in few posts, cause I don't think I can post 10 big photos in one. lol But one way or another, it'll be here soon.
 

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Ok lavatube just died... Nothing I put on it works. Ordering a new one, and I mean now!! Had to buy a stupid little store bought one. Wish me luck! 3 to 4 days of waiting. And Orachel, there are flying pig statues all over town here.

Oh man... that so sucks! Did you get any warranty AT ALL? Most vendors offer at least 15 to 30 days, and good ones 6mos to a year....crossing fingers... And you mean store bought, as in local to you? I only know one guy who did that, and he got his in a kiosk in Hawaii. lol BTW, Im assuming you tried it with another battery! I HAVE had a few of these cheap red IMRs die a remarkably early death... within a week, toast. So hoping like hell its just the cheapo battery! Also, some credit cards have a built in warranty period, so hoping you're covered by your visa or amex or whatever, if all else fails. That just saved a buddy of mine 2 days outside the store warranty, and the vendor was being a tool and refusing to honor it. Got a full warranty from his CC company.

As for your next purchase... and anyone else worried this might happen... A while back I got burned on a brand new vv pv, and someone told me about 'Squaretrade'. What this is is a third party warranty place that will warranty any newly purchased electronics item for up to 3 years. They do it cheap, too. I will tell ya, I'd be surprised if a lavatube lasted 3 years with constant heavy use.... they're great mid range quality vv, but there is a sort of 'half-life' on chinese mass built pvs, it seems. If you buy a square trade warranty, and it dies for any reason other than (I'm remembering, so double check these facts with them before you buy, please!) accident or theft, they send you a check for your original purchase price. You CAN add accident coverage (and I've heard some doozy pv killin' accidents... rolling over it with the car, for instance. Dropping in lake whilst fishing. rofl) its just a few buckos more. You can get a free quote on their site, and I believe you have to buy the warranty within 15 days of your initial purchase, limited ebay coverage, no craigslist covg. And for a PV< you choose 'Misc Electronics Item'.

So when you buy for cost over warranty (which I do all the dang time) you can still protect yourself, and pretty much guarantee you get your money back for most stuff if it dies within 3 years. Snazzy! I checked out an $80 item a month or so ago, and I want to say the basic coverage was about $16 with accident another $11 for a whole THREE YEARS. Much cheaper if you choose shorter term, though, and charge goes down dramatically with products under the $60 or so price point. PLUS, with items this cheap, they usually don't make you send it in for repairs, and back and forth. They just verify that its dead, and you get the check. Also, once you have one, when you tell other people about them, you can get a referral bonus of $5.
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Always looking for best deal. Tried everything... different attys, cartos, batteries. Been several months from my vapor store.com since I bought it. Trying to find new version now! I have to get another one, then in a couple weeks, another one. I bought a cheap, very beginner ecig at a liquor store to hopefully keep me straight for 3-4 days till new one gets here. Any ideas for where to order new version?
 

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Apollo is a safe choice for the original v1 in something other than the metal bodies... they usually have the very best price on the kit for the v1. That's Electronic Cigarette | Apollo starter kit | Apollo E cig |

If I were you, though, no contest. If you still have the rest of the 'stuff' that came with kit, order a body only from www.crystalclearvaping.com. They've got the V1.5 lavatube, which is MUCH better for vaping dual coils and low res stuff due to the 3.2amp restriction, PLUS a build in resistance/ohm meter, so you always know the ohms of what you're vaping carto/atty wise. I think the tube alone is $50, and comes in a nice silver all metal body (not the stainless, but then stainless isnt avail in this new internals version, yet) and the caps are metal, also. Cap failure is one of the few ways the orig tubes broke, as they were plastic. This is all metal. Here's link... Oh, and I've dealt with this vendor at least 30x, never had a single issue with anything. AND his normal shipping is free, and his priority is only $4, so you get it super quick. Trust me.. the 1.5v internals rock. I'm ordering one of those at soonest possible opportunity. rofl

http://www.crystalclearvaping.com/CRYSTAL-CLEAR-V-V-TUBE-Standalone_p_116.html
 

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Just ordered it from ccv. Never ordered from them before, hope it comes quick. Flying pigs beware, there may be an angry man in cincy for a few days.

Great minds! rofl And you'll get it quick. He usually ships same day or following morning, and ready to bet if you pop into his forum and mention you're excited that you just ordered a vv tube and you're crossing fingers it comes soon since your only pv just died and you're a brand new vaper, that thing will drop super quick. lol
 

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Ok, so back to the tutorial trauma. I'm in the list of all blogs on ecf, in the 'recent blog posts' area. I see my post at the bottom of the first page, there, posted at 5:53am. Anyone else see that, by any chance? Sorry I have to ask ya'll for help... I'm running into the 'what I see isn't the same as what others see' issue, so just need to double check. Thanks! ;)
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Great minds! rofl And you'll get it quick. He usually ships same day or following morning, and ready to bet if you pop into his forum and mention you're excited that you just ordered a vv tube and you're crossing fingers it comes soon since your only pv just died and you're a brand new vaper, that thing will drop super quick. lol

Been off the analogs a year this month. Brand new to crappy vaping, had some help getting started, so started better than most. Going to look into borrowing a "chuck" from a buddy in the mean time... BTW I know I saw someone wanting to tear down a lavatube... I've got one now. Let me know and I will be happy to send it to you. Sorry I don't remember who said it.
 

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Ok, did a quick check and looks like its all in place. Adapter photos are open for business. ;)

Adapter Tutorial for Apollo Vtube Stainless/Chrome/Copper
Ok, so you've gotten your snazzy, shiny, new Apollo VTube, and are loving every minute of it. Except.... well, maybe it would be better sometimes if the draw weren't quite so 'airy', and if all your 'ego' cartos screwed on. There's a lot of adapters in vape-land, and choosing the right one to 'tighten up' the draw on your carto choice can be a little confusing, especially if you're new to vaping. So here's a photo tutorial walking you through 3 types of adapters, and which carto choices they're best with. And then YOU can decide how you want your new Apollo VTube to look.. and how you want it to vape.

First, we're taking a look at these three common adapters. I've cut to the chase and put the results of this experiment right in the bottom caption, so if you only use one kind of carto, you can see right here which would be the best choice for you. Again, this didn't cover every adapter ever made, but I focused on some basic ones that you can find at most well stocked vape shops. Apollo is planning to carry a version of some of these in the very near future, I believe. These 'close up' photos of adapters, themselves, will be useful if you're trying to see if a vendor carries one of these guys. You can't really tell from this top view, but the center adapter on very top, the 5.5-6ml Tank Cone, has fluted sides on the exterior. There is a version of this adapter with straight sides, and that may very well work on other cartos. But this fluted one is quite different, as you can see in later photos.
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First... 3.5ml Tank Cone aka 3.5ml Short Cone. Here it is with a 3.5ml Dual Coil Tank, by Smoktech. The arrow points directly to the adapter, so you can see how much adapter is 'visible' with each set up.
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Next, same adapter with a 5.5-6ml Dual Coil Tank. Apollo makes a lovely version of this specially made for this PV, so if you haven't tried a Dual Coil Tank yet, that's a great option.
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I know there's been some debate about which Vision tanks/clearomizers will screw on to the metal Vtubes, but these three versions work beautifully on it. Here we see them with the same adapter... the 3.5ml Tank Cone.
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And a surprise. I expected the 6ml DCT Tank Cone to be perfect for large tanks. Didn't happen that way... at least not with this sort of curvy 'flared' model. I literally couldn't get any tank to screw in with that adapter (and I tried 7 models).
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Here's a xl Smoketech carto with AND without the 3.5ml Tank Cone adapter. As you can see, you can barely see it. Its much the same for all of the tanks with that 3.5ml Tank Cone... adapter is barely noticeable. Nice that the adapter isn't 'intrustive' looking, since the pv looks so terrific. Ok, so mine looks a little funny with the chrome cap and the stainless body, but Apollo is taking great care of me, and getting it switched out, asap. lol
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Ok, now on to the next adapter, since the second one I tried, the 5.5-6ml Tank Cone, was such a bust. ;) This one is the '510 to 510 shorty'. These are also available in the reg size, and those will work just fine for all the same cartos. The extra few mm will just make your carto a lil bit taller. Here we see it with the large size tank.... it works. Doesn't look all that fabulous, but it definitely makes the draw tighter. The 3.5ml Tank Cone seems to be the best choice for the DCTs, any way you cut it.
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The 510 to 510 shorty doesn't look too bad with a 1.7ohm Smoktech single coil (in the standard xl aka dual coil carto size). And if you vape a shorter 510 carto, such as a standard size Boge 2.0 or 3.0, or a Smoketech 'shorty', then this may be a look you like with your carto.
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Ok, now onto something important for all you Ego clearo lovers. As you may or may not have discovered yet, much of the Joye and Riva brand ego stuff works just great on the all metal Vtubes. However, due to a tiny blip in the design, a few of the 'specialty' third party ego cartos/clearos won't screw on. It needs a few mm of added height to the 510 connection, and they work perfectly. Here we see the ego CE4 aka ego 'stardust' carto, with the metal skirt that prevents it from screwing onto most non-ego gear, as well as the adapter that will make it work.
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You can see how flawless your Vtube will look with that same adapter we saw above. So yes... you do have to use an adapter. But chances are, you'd want a slightly tighter draw, anyway, and with this adapter you get the best of both worlds... and its invisible once the carto is screwed on.
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So there you have it.... All the common carto types, either shown off on the adapters that look great, function, and tighten up the draw flawlessly, or a bit about why it won't work. I've had a few vapers tell me it seems backwards. The '510 to 510 shorty' adapter is the perfect choice if you use ego cartos that will or will not screw onto the pv with no adapter, to tighten up the draw. And for pretty much everything else, imo, the '3.5ml Tank Cone' aka 3.5ml Tank Short Cone is the clear winner. Luckily, you can get these adapters at a ton of places, so you might just be able to toss em in with your next purchase of juice or cartos. But I've used these vendors, and they're solid. And we'll cross our fingers that Rob at Apollo lets us know when they get stock of these adapters in, as well. You often have a choice, when buying the '510 to 510 shorty adapter' as to whether you want sealed or unsealed (ie:tiny hole at bottom of 510 connection). Some places only carry one or the other. I didn't have an unsealed one handy, but I'm guessing that it would probably make the draw a little less 'tight' than the sealed adapter, so do consider that when buying yours. Another note... it is possible that the 5.5-6ml Tank Cone with the straight up and down sides, just like the 3.5ml tank cone, but with a wider flange/lip on the top, may work great with the larger tanks. I didn't have one, so I can't report on that. I do know that the one I tried, with the flared top, didn't work with anything but plain old 510 cartos, and looked a little odd. Hopefully someone who has one of those 'straight sided' large tank cones will let us know. The first 3 shops I checked were all sold out of these things when I went to get these links. So if they're sold out, just try somewhere else. They're a very common item. If you're NOT SURE if an adapter you find somewhere else is correct or not, feel free to pm me, or ask in the 'Lavatoob Noob' thread I set up to answer questions. And yes... these are the Vtubes from Apollo, but there's lots of 'lavatubes' by any other name floating around, and their owners need help, too. lol

Here's the Vaping Zone '510 to 510 Shorty' Adapter
http://www.vapingzone.com/510_Shorty_Extension_Sealed/pid-204.html
MadVapes seems to have the VERY best price I've found on the 3.5ml Tank Cone
http://www.madvapes.com/eGo-Chrome-Cone-for-the-35-mL-Dual-Coil-Tank-Cartromizer_p_3438.html
And here's the Litecigusa '3.5ml DCT Tank Cone'
http://www.litecigusa.net/EGO_Stainless_Steel_3_5ml_DCT_Tank_Cone_p/ego3.5mlsscone.htm

There's a few other less common adapters, and I'd love to know if they work or not. So if you have a different one, please feel free to post a photo of the adapter, and one with the carto/tank it works well with. I'm sure it will come in handy to someone.

Ok, so I hope that clears up any adapter related confusion. lol Feel free to pm or stop into the Noob thread if you have any question about your Vtube/lavatube/ whataver tube and any accessories or devices you wanna use on it. There's a bunch of experienced vapers who will help as best we can.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ccessories-them-post-your-questions-here.html

Apollo update thread is also very helpful.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-apollo-stainless-steel-vtube-part-2-a.html

Here's wishing you Happy VV Vaping!
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Been off the analogs a year this month. Brand new to crappy vaping, had some help getting started, so started better than most. Going to look into borrowing a "chuck" from a buddy in the mean time... BTW I know I saw someone wanting to tear down a lavatube... I've got one now. Let me know and I will be happy to send it to you. Sorry I don't remember who said it.

Chrisz... SO cool that you may be able to borrow a Chuck! A Steampunk Chuck (with some alterations) and a Chuck done up with my original graphics are both at the top of my 'ultimate dream pv list'. lol Hey, gotta have a dream, right? lol I'm sure that extra battery power will give you the oomph you need to get you through the quick shipping with ccv. And I'm totally green with envy right now. ;) I ordered the stainless Vtube from apollo the very first day it was open for preorder, but then there was a 2+ month backorder that us early orderers weren't counting on. During most of that we were haunting 'alibaba' (wholesale site where tons of vendors order their pvs. Awesome prices if you ever want 50-100 of the same unit. lol) just PRAYING that they got the new internals worked out before our stainless models were assembled. We kinda figured with the wait and all that they might show up with the new ones. But no dice, sadly. I do love mine, but i'd love it a little more if I had the 3.2amp restriction and the ohm meter. ;)

Hey, btw, you techie guys... I've got a question for you. I know my vv Tox won't work with the regular variety screw in 510 voltage meter (reads voltage under load) because of something to do with the way the voltage is regulated. I'm SURE I'm using the wrong terminogy there, but the right phrase has slipped my mind, sorry! With that bad description, can any of you tell me if a regular v1 internals LT will work with a screw in voltage meter? My meter just kicked the bucket, so can't test it on my stainless vtube, but was wondering if its worth buying another for $15 if none of my vv units will work with it. Hope that made sense. lol
 

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Wanted to let you guys that are looking for inexpensive tanks (or a few of them!) that Totally Wicked has 1, 3pack, and 6 packs of 6ml Dual Coil Tanks on their crazy 'yo-yo sale' this week. What that means is the discounts for each of the products constantly changes. So if you check it every now and again, you can add it to your cart when the sale is the biggest discount. I'm honestly not sure how low it goes... I think into the 40%-50% off range. When I want something, I usually wait till I catch it at 40% off, then add it to cart. And then you have another half an hour after that to check out with your purchase at the sale price. Its nuts, but its a great way to get 1,3, or 6 dual coil tanks (all in different colors) at a great deal. ;) They also have some sorta 510 starter kits on special, in case any of you are looking for cheap kits as gift for people you love who smoke. Personally, I usually skip the 510 and give an ego kit as a starter, but some people do prefer the tiny penstyle. ;) If you get their newsletter, you'll see which stuff is on yo yo each week. ;) Oh, and if you're in the USA, make sure you're in the usa store... there's also a uk store, and the discounts are different. Flags in upper left corner switch locations. ;)
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WOW to much information to take in. I just bought a LT Mini from the classifieds. I need batteries plus the charger. I seen the charger listed in another post here and will probably get it. On the batteries I think I need the 18350's.

But do I need the ones with or without the nipple on top, or does it matter?

What mAh should I get?

What is the best place to buy them from (don't want to end up with knock offs)?

Should I or shouldn't I get a chargeing bag?

Thanks in advance for any help!
 

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Lol, idgie... I know that when you're just getting rolling, all adapters sorta look alike. Tiny pieces of stainless. Not very helpful if you have to order 15 of them to find one that works with your cartos. Thats what I did in the beginning, and why I have so many adapters laying around. rofl I actually tried a few more that don't work at all, so just left them out of the photos so noone bought one by mistake. ;) Yell out if you need more help, or have trouble finding the adapter you need. About 30 shops had them that I knew about, but most places are sold out now that theres 1000 more vapers needing them all at once (who all received the all metal body etubes). If the links I gave end up sold out, somebody tell me so I can hunt you guys some new links.

Carolina... as for batts.. yes, quality definitely does matter, and you can find the answer you need about the very best batts for 18350/mini lava tube size in post #180, on page 18 of this thread. Just make sure you're looking at the info for the 18350 batts, not the info for 18650 batts. And you want to aim for the AW IMR highdrain 18350 batteries that have either a flat top, or a sort of flat looking button top (they're called flat top, but its rather confusing, cause they look like they have a button, just a short one). Yell out if you have any difficulty finding the exact right battery at those links I gave. I don't remember off hand if AW looks flat on top or not. I'll find it for ya if you get confused, though. And I believe the AW IMR 18350s only come in one mah. Just yell out if you get stuck with the links I gave. ;)

As for a charging bag.... Personally, I'd say your best course of action is to get the really high quality charger, which can be had for only $11 more than the bag. That's the best way to ensure you get the safest 'smartest' charge for these hi drain, IMR type batteries. I linked to the inexpensive quality charger in that post as well. BUT if you're really concerned about it, a battery bag isn't a bad idea. You can get those at the same place I linked to for the WP2 II chargers. ;) But the bags are about $8, the good charger is $19. You're better off with the good charger instead. ;) According to all the research I've done (and I spoke to a bunch of people I trust who are very knowledgeable about these things), actually makes it impossible to 'overcharge' your batteries over the 4.2v, which is when they heat up dangerously, and have the potential to vent. Again, not trying to scare anyone... that happens very seldom... but cheap chargers are WHY it happens in huge part. That's what happened to me. I caught it before it vented, thank goodness, but it did make the battery dangerous to use and melted the charger. So if you have an 'intelligent' charger that stops charging at the correct 4.2 voltage, you cut down on risk, considerably, especially with a protected/vented device like the Lavatube/vtube. I also linked to a great review on the charger I'm talking about, and she can explain much better than I can why its a much safer process with a 'smart' charger. ;) As for value, I hunted everywhere, and this charger seems to be about $6 less than it costs everywhere else, so thats nice.

Oh, and I should have made it clear... You guys who have the 'original body/original internals' Lavatubes/vtubes and the Version 1.5 internals with the original body.... You don't have the same 'airy' kind of a draw as the stainless/chrome/copper models, and the connection on your device is 510, not this odd ego hybrid weird thing that we got on our metal ones. So you shouldn't need an adapter to tighten up the draw for you. If you want to use ANY ego cartos, you'll need a '510 to Ego' adapter, and if you want to use anything other than 510 carto, you'll need a '510 to whatever model you're using cartos designed for' adapter. So, 808 attys? need a 510 to 808. Pretty common sense. But that big honkin photo thing won't apply to you unless you have the all metal body tube. ;)
 
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Chrisz... SO cool that you may be able to borrow a Chuck! A Steampunk Chuck (with soI ordered the stainless Vtube from apollo the very first day it was open for preorder, but then there was a 2+ month backorder that us early orderers weren't counting on. During most of that we were haunting 'alibaba' (wholesale site where tons of vendors order their pvs. Awesome prices if you ever want 50-100 of the same unit. lol) just PRAYING that they got the new internals worked out before our stainless models were assembled. We kinda figured with the wait and all that they might show up with the new ones. But no dice, sadly. I do love mine, but i'd love it a little more if I had the 3.2amp restriction and the ohm meter. ;)
I followed that post religously. Wanting to order one, and I loved my lavatube. But I am looking forward to my new version one. CCV got it shipped today!!!! Couldn't be happier, and I picked up a 5v passthru at a flea market today. Chrome will have to do for me...
 
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